Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Something_Smart]

In Situation Room, his reads were on point and supported. He's fully capable of being a stronger player but he isn't.

But is that scummy? I recall his scumgame being pretty solid.

[Titus]

andante is my scumread

oops this isn't my scum pt

144 just reads fake to me

not that i trust scum slips but STD is the one who asked if scum have chat and he had to reply that scum do have chats if he was town.
i don't trust slips worth shit but unless his memory is as shit as me, he might have slipped lol

i only did it because prism did it already lol

Some early town StD posts.

[Titus]

In Situation Room, his reads were on point and supported. He's fully capable of being a stronger player but he isn't.

But is that scummy? I recall his scumgame being pretty solid.

Who's scumreading him here aside from me? That's a sign of a solid scumgame.

[Datisi]

"i have no idea who he foses" feels a bit hm? considering he made a vote last time he was here, and explained why.

Shiro's high WIM is inconsistent with his scumgame.

high wim? again, does shiro like, literally not post as scum? are y'all literally about to make me do dumb metadives?

and also, is mindless omgus really within shiro's game?

[Datisi]

within shiro's towngame*, obviously. i have utterly no clue why he's voting me other than surface-level not liking my vote on his pair, and nobody other than me seems to be giving a shit.

[Something_Smart]

Who's scumreading him here aside from me? That's a sign of a solid scumgame.

That's a good point, if completely ad-hoc. But my reasons for townreading him are that he doesn't really seem to have a solid game plan.

I haven't been great at reading him, so I'm open to other arguments, but I'm usually not enthused by meta from games I wasn't in.

[Ydrasse]

my hot take of the day is:

i don’t think shiro is out of scum range from what harley’s provided, and i was expecting the solving to be... more if harley was fully absolving him, but the things he’s saying are just... fine? fine simple takes is how i described them in my initial reaction :<

[Titus]

You're completely dismissing votes on you and supposing they have a scum motive. It's the same thing HQ is doing but yours comes in a more intellectual package.

Shiro very rarely has WIM as scum. HQ wouldn't fake it either.

I've already locked catboi since post 200 or so. Nothing catboi did was scummy.

[Titus]

my hot take of the day is:

i don’t think shiro is out of scum range from what harley’s provided, and i was expecting the solving to be... more if harley was fully absolving him, but the things he’s saying are just... fine? fine simple takes is how i described them in my initial reaction :<

This is a pocket and push attempt. Ydrasse is clearly reading and just coming in to push Shiro and likely leave.

[Ydrasse]

i mean i’m reiterating a post i made in my pt while it’s topical atm

[Ydrasse]

i’ve been reading this entire game lmao

[Datisi]

You're completely dismissing votes on you and supposing they have a scum motive.

i'm assuming this is at me - no, i'm *asking* why i am being voted by a slot i find suspicous. and when i'm consistently not getting answered, i have no other choice but assume it's surface-level omgus.

what made catboi so townie? do you have any experience with his scumgame? i haven't played with scum!him, but i've heard he's a Really Good scumplayer, so locking him at page 200 feels... uh.

[Titus]

You're completely dismissing votes on you and supposing they have a scum motive.

i'm assuming this is at me - no, i'm *asking* why i am being voted by a slot i find suspicous. and when i'm consistently not getting answered, i have no other choice but assume it's surface-level omgus.

what made catboi so townie? do you have any experience with his scumgame? i haven't played with scum!him, but i've heard he's a Really Good scumplayer, so locking him at page 200 feels... uh.

Shiro's on vacation. I can't answer for him. Second, you did an OMGUS in my entry catchup when tensions weren't high. Increase tension and get an OMGUS. I'm ok with that. You've been 100% proscum because you are largely pushing town (minus Adante but not really pushing there). Shiro may have more of a reason.

As for catboi, early mindmeld means a lot. Catboi can't fake a mindset to fool me as I wasn't even in the game. Two people approaching from the same mindset independently are very likely to be town.

My early reads have been more spot on and I wind up talking myself out of them.

[Something_Smart]

i haven't played with scum!him, but i've heard he's a Really Good scumplayer

He is, yes.

[Titus]

here's a question for Andante voters

who are marci/Andante's two buddies

it kinda feels to me like voting Andante is somewhat of a cop out today. There's still gonna be the core underlying tension between the HQ/Shiro pair, GL, RH9/Alyssa... like we'll still have to litigate this issue even if Andante flips scum. so I don't understand why voting Andante is a better option than hashing out what we think is going on with HQ/Shiro hard town locking each other, Titus and Datisi being universally townread, and no one really scumreading Galron/S_S anymore.

and I feel like I'm boxed in this weird position by HQ, because she townreads a bunch of slots, and she treats it like it's inherently scummy for me to suspect those slots, so it puts me in a position where scumreading anybody is going to be something she'll use against me, whether it's her slot or Alyssa/RH9 pair or whoever

This is Adante's partner.

Sorry Datisi. It's just true.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

All scum are very likely within Andante/GuiltyLion/STD/Shiro

I would guess at least 2 are

[Titus]

Why does scum!Shiro do this when he goddamned well knows that I would be the first one to cstch him if he’s scum?

again, haven't you never played with scum!shiro. what is this based on.

I think what's driving me mad about this game is everyone hard town locking their partner. let's all stop doing that.

except for me, because we all agree Dats is town

I'm actually the best Shiro reader on the site

how many times have you caught scum!Shiro HQ

GL's agenda is for more scumreads here in general.

If he's the best Shiro reader on site, he should agree with me. He's not.

[Titus]

All scum are very likely within Andante/GuiltyLion/STD/Shiro

I would guess at least 2 are

Tell you what. If we eliminate Adante or GL and either flips town, I'll leave immediately.

[Datisi]

If he's the best Shiro reader on site, he should agree with me. He's not.

i think it's very obvious that post was a joke considering it was made at the time when someone else other than harley who kept ironically claiming to be the best shiro reader on site

[Titus]

Well after a last readwall.

[Titus]

I've got Xmas and birthday celebrations with the boyfriend. I'll be out for most of the day once I leave.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I don't want chain leaves

[Titus]

I don't want chain leaves

I'm not a fan of them either but we need to get town to actually vote scum.

[Galron]

All scum are very likely within Andante/GuiltyLion/STD/Shiro

I would guess at least 2 are

Think this is +town for Titus if Alyssa is town. Not feeling out Alyssa/Titus s/s but it would take a lot to get there.

[GuiltyLion]

hey y'all, I'm here and about to read up

is there anything I should be focusing on or stuff you want my top of head thoughts on while I go do that