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Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:37 am
by MegAzumarill
FL should probably be out of contention for killing today and reexamination tomorrow seems wise. (Extra kill data will be nice)

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:39 am
by Nashville Dreams
Separate from the guilty, there's two players I want today. Meg due to the overwhelming consensus that they were scum yesterday and their awkward push onto FL. Butterchurn due to his repeated and unjustified counterwagoning everything but catboi and tictac.

There's also the no voters who are bad. Normally, I'd say a vig could handle them but there's a push on the alleged vig.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:40 am
by Nashville Dreams
In post 5386, MegAzumarill wrote:so 8 ball
frankly I'm more liable to think FL is mafia than vigi
In post 5400, MegAzumarill wrote:FL should probably be out of contention for killing today and reexamination tomorrow seems wise. (Extra kill data will be nice)
What exactly is your position here?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:45 am
by MegAzumarill
That I find FL probable to be mafia/malefactor but there's no point limming there when we can get much more info about the nature if the catboi kill based on kills tomorrow (determining whether the kill was likely a vig shot or a factional kill for instance)
FL can be tunneled town but I find it less likely since they wouldn't have made that much of a stink yesterday and just quietly shot if they were actually vigi. Course I could be wrong.

Effectively FLs claim gets a lot more or less believable depending on tonight's kill(s) and tomorrow nights kill(s)

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:46 am
by MegAzumarill
Additionally I'm fairly sure it's just you and FL actively scumreading me for the most part so "overwhelming consensus" is a bit of a misrep

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:47 am
by Nashville Dreams
So who do you want to eliminate?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:47 am
by Nashville Dreams
In post 5404, MegAzumarill wrote:Additionally I'm fairly sure it's just you and FL actively scumreading me for the most part so "overwhelming consensus" is a bit of a misrep
Oh ok.

VOTE: Meg

Quote retrieval time.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:48 am
by Klick
If you find FL to be probable scum you should *not* want him to be in the game longer considering the sheer amount of influence he is capable of having on Day play

That is much more impactful than the info that might be gained by waiting until Night play gives us confirmation or more concrete info

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:48 am
by Nashville Dreams
In post 4839, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 4827, MegAzumarill wrote:VOTE: Flavor Leaf
Vanity mostly
This is viggable.
In post 4841, Menalque wrote:
In post 4839, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 4827, MegAzumarill wrote:VOTE: Flavor Leaf
Vanity mostly
This is viggable.
For the first time in a while we are in agreement
In post 4846, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4839, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 4827, MegAzumarill wrote:VOTE: Flavor Leaf
Vanity mostly
This is viggable.

The 4 stragglers of Catboi wagons were Toogeloo, Tictac, MegA, and Cat Scratch Fever.

Toogeloo and Tictac were the townier ones of those 4, and they're the ones who were wagoned.

We tried to get Cat Scratch going at one point, and it didn't work.

MegA would be who I'd vig if I had a vig, possibly Catboi, but I tend not to vig my main scum reads, but this might have been a special case.

But yeah, Vig Mega.
In post 4857, Nero Cain wrote:#vigmeg

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:49 am
by MegAzumarill
Probably the ydrasse guilty but besides that it'd probably be you

I plan to reread catboi ISO as some not werewolf verdicts should be applicable

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:49 am
by SCP 682
people really intentionally ignoring the fact FL claimed vig during the night phase before any of these "guilties" came out

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:49 am
by MegAzumarill
you did pull the people I said + 2 people with 1 line.
So not actively scumreading

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:50 am
by Nashville Dreams
In post 4935, SCP 682 wrote:
In post 4930, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 4924, butterchurn wrote:
In post 4921, Flavor Leaf wrote:reading some posts does not mean they have been reading most posts.
But reading some posts should be enough to have some opinions.
Yet you're fine with Meg hinting she has reads she won't disclose, giving no reads, defending Toog and dodging a catboi read?

That should die over honest drowning.
MEG IS ALSO SCUM

we can't eliminate 3 people in 1 day here

there are NINE SCUM

we cant get them all at the same time.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:50 am
by MegAzumarill
ok fair enough

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:50 am
by Klick
In post 5407, Klick wrote:If you find FL to be probable scum you should *not* want him to be in the game longer considering the sheer amount of influence he is capable of having on Day play

That is much more impactful than the info that might be gained by waiting until Night play gives us confirmation or more concrete info
This was
@ MegAzumarill

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:51 am
by Nashville Dreams
In post 4948, Nero Cain wrote:meg can totally be scum. That whole "but we need to use more of the clock" is LAMISTT.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:51 am
by MegAzumarill
In post 5407, Klick wrote:If you find FL to be probable scum you should *not* want him to be in the game longer considering the sheer amount of influence he is capable of having on Day play

That is much more impactful than the info that might be gained by waiting until Night play gives us confirmation or more concrete info
True but I dont expect FL to live very long regardless of alignmentand if they are in fact scum this is more associative to look into

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:53 am
by SCP 682
klick wont address it bc he is also scum btw

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:54 am
by Enchant
Why claim vig at night phase though.

Like, aren't it safer on day.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 3:54 am
by SCP 682
inconvenient facts as they say

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 4:00 am
by Klick
SCP 682 wrote:people really intentionally ignoring the fact FL claimed vig during the night phase before any of these "guilties" came out
In post 5417, SCP 682 wrote:klick wont address it bc he is also scum btw
My honest take is that FL's impact on the Day state is negative enough that eliminating him now is what is most likely to help the town start working towards a win. I ALSO think he's rather likely scum at this point, and that FL's claim is entirely conceivable from Mafia who suspects a Gunsmith could exist. But I'm valuing the first bit much higher than the second bit at the moment.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 4:01 am
by SCP 682
scummy

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 4:01 am
by MegAzumarill
You do know vigis can be scum aligned right?
And why wouldn't you claim in night phase if you were planning on faking vigi and knew Noone in the monastery could kill you for it?

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 4:02 am
by SCP 682
you vote FL on the basis of the GS claim -> get proven that FL crumbed a role already -> still maintain the push based on hastily drawn reasons

thats a scumclaim folks

Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 4:02 am
by SCP 682
In post 5422, MegAzumarill wrote:You do know vigis can be scum aligned right?
And why wouldn't you claim in night phase if you were planning on faking vigi and knew Noone in the monastery could kill you for it?
No