Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Ranmaru]

Gamma: Can you answer my #5416 though?

[Gamma Emerald]

Yes I'd try to conf!town titus, most likely
hate versus dislike was because hate is a strong word

[Ranmaru]

Because they object and think that's the best way to object

Mark, can you explain what Gamma means here?

[Gamma Emerald]

I like to bounce reads and at the time, I was fine with your slot. Your absence actually made me want Mark more, actually. Gamma, why did you not post for 72 hours? Are you usually V/LA weekends? Why are you replacing?

didn't post because no access
not usually vla weekends
I've been making do with school computers but now I am out any reliable access to the site
reads are you town, klazam probscum, mark possibly town, thor should be given a chance with olympics

[Gamma Emerald]

Because they object and think that's the best way to object

Mark, can you explain what Gamma means here?

woul;d you like me to?

[Ranmaru]

Because they object and think that's the best way to object

Mark, can you explain what Gamma means here?

woul;d you like me to?

No, I want Mark to answer.

[OnTheMark]

Because they object and think that's the best way to object

Mark, can you explain what Gamma means here?

I still don’t know who they mean by they and she so since I have no clue who Gamma is talking about, no?

[Ranmaru]

Gamma is talking about OnTheMark, regarding reading Gamma exactly the same as White Flag and why OnTheMark would read him [Gamma] that way when Gamma disagrees.

[OnTheMark]

Gamma is talking about OnTheMark, regarding reading Gamma exactly the same as White Flag and why OnTheMark would read him [Gamma] that way when Gamma disagrees.

Except he doesn’t disagree except on word choice.

I don’t follow your question or Gamma’s posts.

[Ranmaru]

Gamma's meta is

not

exactly like White Flag. I will go on the record here.

While I will state this is true,

keep in mind my play for WF was doctored somewhat to be less abrasive with older players

.

[Ranmaru]

You also modded the White Flag game. Tell me what you know of me as a player so far, and compare that to here. Then, compare what you know of Gamma from that game, and tell me how his game here is different.

For starters in white flag you were a scum agent in town colors a majority of the game and

Gamma’s meta seems exactly like white flag

. Here you are actively trying to mislynch me before I can save a townie tonight. So either A) You’re scum (more likely) or scum in town colors.

[pidgey]

Would we even have enough people on board gor gamma anyway? Im not sure man. Definitely not super feeling klazam right now.

Your theory is still super crazy man! What would the other third scum team be doing? Do religions impact the scum teams in some way or not?

[OnTheMark]

You also modded the White Flag game. Tell me what you know of me as a player so far, and compare that to here. Then, compare what you know of Gamma from that game, and tell me how his game here is different.

For starters in white flag you were a scum agent in town colors a majority of the game and

Gamma’s meta seems exactly like white flag

. Here you are actively trying to mislynch me before I can save a townie tonight. So either A) You’re scum (more likely) or scum in town colors.

Abrasivity isn’t a meta argument.

Meta implies a playstyle/action choice not words.

Again you’re being pedantic like Gamma. This is town!Gamma

[Ranmaru]

White Flag Meta Case on Gamma

[Ranmaru]

Would we even have enough people on board gor gamma anyway? Im not sure man. Definitely not super feeling klazam right now.

Your theory is still super crazy man! What would the other third scum team be doing? Do religions impact the scum teams in some way or not?

Between Klazam and Mark, I'd go towards Mark. They

might

, but I'm thinking probably not. Reason is, that would mean there are extra religions people have yet to claim. I would say team 2 has investigative and protective, and team 3 would have another protective and investigative. Yet, all weak.

[Ranmaru]

I know, it's super crazy. Yet I think "Why did we ever think 3 v 3 scum was confirmed?" Your point about there being less kills is also a good one.

[Ranmaru]

I mean, people have not claimed they are a different religion then catholic or protestant. I feel the priority would be to balance around the vig.

[Ranmaru]

No, Joey, you don't understand
If there ARE multiple teams and more than one of them tries to kill Brass, then we end up with less dead town than we would have otherwise.
Alternatively, scum avoid Brass, which makes it more likely that they cross-kill and easier for us to win.
Making Brass world leader is pretty much a win/win. Only way it doesn't work out is if
1. The setup isn't multiball, but I've already outlined why it's got to be unless we're screwed when it comes to world congress anyway
2. The different teams/SK manage to all co-ordinate such that only one kill ends up on Brass.

[Ranmaru]

Did Joda and Gamma claim their night actions for N3?

[OnTheMark]

I'm still here too. Will be catching up throughout the day

I received a watch last night and used it on brass. No one visited

Gamma also said he commuted.

Tbh I feel like Jodaxq is full of shit.

[OnTheMark]

Would also be down for a Jodaxq flash wagon.

[Ranmaru]

You are implying the supposed 2man group was balanced? I love the theory behind your thoughts but it kinda falls flat man.

A 2 man group with such weak roles seems too limmited

.

I'm starting to think 3 2 mans are supposed to be weak. You feel me.

[Ranmaru]

I've thought about it, and I think Mark, Gamma, and Thor must all be scum. My reads on Mark and Gamma are more solid then my Thor read. Mostly, I think Gamma and Thor are scum together, while Mark is a lone wolf. Note that Gamma and Joey both conversed with Varsoon about the 'setup', but Titus did not. I think 3 teams of two, should explain to Joda why Gamma is indeed scum. Mark and Gamma are more transparent, and already seem pretty suspicious to me. Thor, is usually easy for me to read so as the game grows I'll be able to strengthen my read. As it's mostly gut, Joey's harshness with my slot and not giving me a chance, and the commuter claim which is one of the many factors which makes us think 'but the suggestions you gave are too weak'. My idea is that religion spreaders are essentially, Mafia Goons. Guess which roles are the religion spreaders? Commuter, and non-consecutive doc. Mark is suspicious by play, Titus is suspicious by play, and by night play. Titus using it on Brass N2 is convenient, and also implies knowledge of who can kill. (Since, if she uses it on Brass and claims doc, she must have control of a night kill) Joey has played a good game, but what will out him in the end is his role and reads. I genuinely thought Thor was town until the absence, and the choice to lynch Klazam over Mark. If we lynch Klazam today and he flips town, I want everyone to sheep me. If Mark is lynched and flips Orange scum, I want everyone to sheep me. Either way, I think I am 3/3 right now. In the case that there were only two scum left, I would choose Gamma and Thor. Yet, I believe there are 3 remaining.

Unvote; Vote: Mark

[Ranmaru]

Reads

Brassherald	Thor	Chara
Innocent Child	Religion Spreader	VT
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	JOAT	VT
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Marshy
Vig x2	Catholic Spreader	Protestant Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Jodaxq	Ranmaru	Mark
Self Random Inventor	VT	Religion Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓

[Ranmaru]

Setup

Brassherald	Thor	Chara
Innocent Child	Religion Spreader	VT
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Bujaber	Gamma Emerald	Klazam
VT	JOAT	VT
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Shaziro	Pidgey	Marshy
Vig x2	Catholic Spreader	Protestant Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Jodaxq	Ranmaru	Mark
Self Random Inventor	VT	Religion Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Creature	Elbirn	Dunk
Roleblocker	Private Security Guard	Pagan Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Varsoon	Action Dan	Kokichi
Rolecop	VT	Neighbouriser
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓
Nero Cain	LaserGuy	Almost50
JailKeeper	VT	Taoism Spreader
▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓	▓▓▓▓