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In post 5444, Titan wrote:

In post 5438, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 5434, Titan wrote:

In post 5433, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 5431, Titan wrote:Though I do have to wonder at pere trying to instigate an argument again that was talked out last night. The trollish language and goading makes no sense from town at all.

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

This. Is. Not. Town.

If. You, Can't. Handle. Being. Asked. Questions. Maybe. Mafia. Is. Not. The. Game. For. You.

You've. Been. Playing. Two. Years.

You. Can. Play.

Seems. Like. Maybe. Being. Scum. Is. What's. Bothering. You.

You know what? You're not worth the time for my response.

This may be trolling, but since it also proves a point.

In post 51, Titan wrote:

In post 11, Red Gyarados wrote:I don't know why we're starting other wagons when we can find Tammy's alignment by bringing them to L-3 before Page 5.

VOTE: Titan

good point

tammy needs to town it up quickly

vote titan

First post of the game and your method of towning it up was to vote for yourself while NOT being scum?

In post 5445, PeregrineV wrote:
Who did he have as scum at that point? Should he have gladiated the claimed cop on day 1?

At that point in the game, my strongest scum read was off limits until at least day 2. Orcinus' choices made sense to me.

OK. Then don't vote him. Still need to catch 4 scum.[/quote]

You haven't indicated what you think he should have done instead of gladiate the strongest scumread he'd mentioned at that point.

In post 5446, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 5423, AngryPidgeon wrote:

Tales of Abyss?

: CF, JSU, Nacho

Tales of ???:

PA, Tammy
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Tales of Hearts:

AP, RG

Tales Of Rebirth

: Stalin

Tales of Vesperia:

PV
???: Panda, orcinus, FoxHound

You guys probably claimed some of this before, but what is everyone's game?

updated. forgot Foxhound before.

I think orcinus is also vesperia.

So, I read through the latest posts and I'll respond soon but I am starting to wonder if there was scum in the Abyss Neighborhood and Penguin is also scum and they relayed that I was going to question Tammy about the hammer and Penguin tried to plant that seed. I don't know why Penguin would think someone would push Tammy about the hammer. It seemed like a weird thing.

In post 5434, Titan wrote:

In post 5433, PeregrineV wrote:

In post 5431, Titan wrote:Though I do have to wonder at pere trying to instigate an argument again that was talked out last night. The trollish language and goading makes no sense from town at all.

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

This. Is. Not. Town.

Mastin? Is that you? Did you get reincarnated into a 3rd hydra head with Tammy?

In post 5129, CarbonFiber wrote:She just gave me a heart attack. I can't tye rught noe,. I need to go use the restroom. I'll calm down and talk aboyt ut more in a little bnit

We just saw someone else do this, too. I thought I had a tendency to get emotional about mafia but not being able to type properly is on another plane of flipout that I don't think happens to me. I thought it read fake as hell when mastin did it, but well, apparently it wasn't.

In post 5138, PeregrineV wrote:Dang, I was hoping for a scumflip.

I am Yuri Lowell, Town Lone Wolf (modified vig), Tales of Vesperia (you can guess the modification). I didn't shoot last night because I wanted to see Rancid's flip. I shot him night1 because he was total scum (even if he flipped green).

Going home, but want that out there for discussion. I'll try to check in tonight.

I guess this'll look different when you actually show up but this post is way colder than I feel like it should be. Still, a vig claim is a vig claim.

In post 5139, CarbonFiber wrote:I want to explain why Titan is scum but I don;t hgave it in me. I can't do it. I thought I coulsd calm down in a bit but my heart is racing. I am in a computer lab right now eagerly awaitun for the game to start.

I talked in the neighborhood about how I thought the scum was PA/AP/NAcho/Tammy.

I told Nacho to bring it. I told him to tell Tammy in the scum QT to attack me (As a jkoke). I did not expect that at all. I reeally didn't

I messed shit up this game so badly. I let TAmy set me up forgfettng lynched after pushing so hard on Mastin and Rancid.

Mffin is probably laighing in the scum QT.

Nati as well. They warned me over and over not to collaborate with Tammy so mucj,.

I just went to restroom and tried to calm down and think of all the things why I thought Titan was scum but my mingf id blank I can't thing ruight now.

F-16, I really didn't think you were the type to get like this. I guess I don't think it's fake, because I've thought you were town all game and I usually generally don't think emotion is fake even when it does come from scum, but this seems really out of character to me. Since then this has simmered down to more of a dull roar I guess? (I'm on 210 right now). Though I don't necessarily get freaking out on Tammy in particular, I do see why I should expect some acrobatics from F16 today, and I guess if he was ever going to get emotional then right after this mastin crap (which incidentally is yet another point for the column of "times I should have listened to what my gut said instead of deferring to other people" column, surprise surprise) is the time I'd expect it. And I guess I still don't imagine F16 deliberately pushing that angle knowing it was wrong and setting himself up to kinda have to have a big reaction, whilst in a neighborhood to boot. Though the reaction was more prompted by Tammy, and doing that as scum is definitely something I have seen before by which I mean explicitly done myself.

In post 5179, CarbonFiber wrote:

In post 5164, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 5139, CarbonFiber wrote:I told Nacho to bring it. I told him to tell Tammy in the scum QT to attack me (As a jkoke). I did not expect that at all. I reeally didn't

You really think NAcho and Tammy are scum together and Nacho told Tammy to push you? Why would NAcho have to be involved in Tammy's decision to push you (assuming she is scum)?

In post 5150, Titan wrote:Because he started setting me up fr the hammer in his first post f the day.

F-16: Why did you not vote at all Yesterday? IIRC, you never voted even once despite tryingto get mastin lynched from the sidelines pretty much all Day. Why no vote ever?

Okay, I am a little calmer now. I'll explain what I thought would happen and what actually hapenned:

I suspected the scumteam to be you, Penguin, Nacho, and Tammy.

I didn't expect Tammy to push me if she was scum at all. I expected her to continue to push BRO. I expected you to push me. You can read BRO 100% Pushing BRO might as well be a scumclaim. It is the same for Tammy and me. Neither of us failed to read each other correctly before.

So, you push me, Tammy pushes BRO-Desp. That's what I assumed the scumplan was. I expected to come into the game to see you vote me. I was ready for it. What I didn't expect was for Tammy to push me.

I can handle pushes from people that know me before. Nacho tried pushing me once in Micro 252, read it if you want. I responded fairly calmly and was able to get one of his scumbuddies lynched. The push went nowhere. I expected to be able to handle Nacho pushing me again. I told him to push me. I told him to show me that he was scum and to scumclaim to me if he was in jest. I even put up a show about how I am ready for him and told him to bring it on so I could see him for the scum he was.

What I didn't expect was for Tammy to open up with a vote on me. I was already feeling like absolute crap about pushing Mastin and Muffin-Nati's lynches and being a dick to ffery about how they were obvscum. I was about this close to breaking down completely. I did not expect her to vote me at all.

Her reaction is a total scumclaim after I responded to it. She didn't even ask me if I was okay although you did. I've played many more games with Tammy than I have with you. I've interacted with her a lot more than I have interacted with you. Heck, you don't even like me. And the only person who asked me if I was all right was you. Tammy just ignored it and continued attacking me which is as good as a scumclaim. As to why she wouldn't push me on her own, it is because she can read me and I can read her. She wouldn't push me unless she was sure she would win. And at this point, I think she knows that she would win. Pushing me is basically claiming scum to me.

Why I didn't vote yesterday: I was going to vote sometime before deadline. There weren't enough fucking spots on the wagon. Look at who didn't vote Mastin. Look at the non-voters. All these people wanted to vote but it only took 8 to lynch.

If you are town, and I still think you are, get your shit together and realize people are wrong sometimes. There is entirely too much of this mindset on MS as a whole. X can read me, so if they're wrong they're scum. It's stupid. Meta is nice and all and it's useful but you can't expect people to be perfect, there will always be a first time. (Yes, I'm aware I pushed the opposite of this in ASOIAF- both because that was part of where I learned this, and because I was scum) Besides, another post of yours (you mentioned Tammy never having voted for you, somewhere?) imply to me you've never been scum in a game with her? If that's the case then you've handed out this card entirely too prematurely. Even if you turn out to be right, I don't believe in this logic.

In post 5246, Just Sheep Us wrote: Right now my reads on Tammy and Ceph/DV are most in question. I feel like they've positionally benefited from the noise that's happened this whole game (interesting that, since the day start, I'm the only one to even bring up Ceph/DV).

First of all, what does "positionally benefitting" even mean and why would it have anything to do with anyone's read on anything? Are you saying players that "benefit" from noise must have been the ones that caused it? It's not like there are scum hacking into mastin's account and forcing her to post massive blocks of noise. I know we weren't very here yesterday, and I didn't mean to not be, but once games start getting away from me I tend to fall into these stupid patterns where catching up on them sounds more and more painful and I never want to do it at all. This game in particular is full of so many strong players that it's really easy for me to get lost in the shuffle, and I know I do it to myself by deliberately seeking out games like this, but I didn't expect THIS much volume. And why should it be surprising that we hadn't been mentioned? We haven't been in the game. We will be now, I hope.

In post 5452, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:

In post 5445, PeregrineV wrote:
Who did he have as scum at that point? Should he have gladiated the claimed cop on day 1?

At that point in the game, my strongest scum read was off limits until at least day 2. Orcinus' choices made sense to me.

OK. Then don't vote him. Still need to catch 4 scum.

You haven't indicated what you think he should have done instead of gladiate the strongest scumread he'd mentioned at that point.[/quote]

If you were town and had the role to pick one of two players to die instead of you, how would you go about it? Think of how you'd do it as scum.

How did Orcunis do it?

If he didn't have strong scumreads or bother reading the game, why force the use of his ability? Statistically random picks are anti-town. Uninformed picks are basically the same.

EBWOP

In post 5452, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:

In post 5445, PeregrineV wrote:
Who did he have as scum at that point? Should he have gladiated the claimed cop on day 1?

At that point in the game, my strongest scum read was off limits until at least day 2. Orcinus' choices made sense to me.

OK. Then don't vote him. Still need to catch 4 scum.

You haven't indicated what you think he should have done instead of gladiate the strongest scumread he'd mentioned at that point.

If you were town and had the role to pick one of two players to die instead of you, how would you go about it? Think of how you'd do it as scum.

How did Orcunis do it?

If he didn't have strong scumreads or bother reading the game, why force the use of his ability? Statistically random picks are anti-town. Uninformed picks are basically the same.

In post 5256, Just Sheep Us wrote:

In post 5249, Titan wrote:This is such fucking bullshit.

I should take a picture of that early day-1 positions map I drew. It had a nice little support arrow of DV/Ceph up your ass the way RBD was up mastin's.

In post 5261, Just Sheep Us wrote:VOTE: Fox and Hound

This is probably a better place for a vote, for the same reason RBD was a better vote than mastin day 1 in my book.

While you're at it, draw me a diagram of why any of that makes the slightest bit of difference.

In post 5373, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 5313, CupcakePanda wrote:AP

FULLCLAIM NEXT POST

I already have? Im a modified cop. I submit 3 names every night and the mafia team selects one for me to get either Replica or Not Replica on. I was allowed to target Kagura on N1 and got no result which was weird. I got Not Replica back on BWS last night. Im in Tales of Hearts. Calcedny Arcome, Town Lawful Commander. I think I claimed all that before but its possible I havent.

THANKS FOR MAKING UP YOUR N2 ACTION YOU LYING SCUMFUCK

In post 5458, The Fox and the Hound wrote:I guess this'll look different when you actually show up but this post is way colder than I feel like it should be. Still, a vig claim is a vig claim.

????

ALSO NO WE ARE NOT FINISHING UP THIS FLAVOR CLAIM UNTIL TOMORROW

In post 5463, CupcakePanda wrote:

In post 5373, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 5313, CupcakePanda wrote:AP

FULLCLAIM NEXT POST

I already have? Im a modified cop. I submit 3 names every night and the mafia team selects one for me to get either Replica or Not Replica on. I was allowed to target Kagura on N1 and got no result which was weird. I got Not Replica back on BWS last night. Im in Tales of Hearts. Calcedny Arcome, Town Lawful Commander. I think I claimed all that before but its possible I havent.

THANKS FOR MAKING UP YOUR N2 ACTION YOU LYING SCUMFUCK

VOTE: AP

AP IS SCUM PLEASE LYNCH ACCORDINGLY

Oh snap.

PV, take a break. Tammy is the towniest she's ever been in any game ever that I've played with her before. I strongly advise you against vigging her and since you think I'm so town, trust me on this.

Pedit: Hey Ceph, please read my follow up posts where I post explanations to my reaction at the beginning of the day. You are ignoring it. I said I had finals and I need to study and I am pressured and falling behind.

In post 5459, PeregrineV wrote:
If you were town and had the role to pick one of two players to die instead of you, how would you go about it? Think of how you'd do it as scum.

How did Orcunis do it?

If he didn't have strong scumreads or bother reading the game, why force the use of his ability? Statistically random picks are anti-town. Uninformed picks are basically the same.

It's like that late-day wagon on orcinus never happened in your world.

In post 5463, CupcakePanda wrote:

In post 5373, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 5313, CupcakePanda wrote:AP

FULLCLAIM NEXT POST

I already have? Im a modified cop. I submit 3 names every night and the mafia team selects one for me to get either Replica or Not Replica on. I was allowed to target Kagura on N1 and got no result which was weird. I got Not Replica back on BWS last night. Im in Tales of Hearts. Calcedny Arcome, Town Lawful Commander. I think I claimed all that before but its possible I havent.

THANKS FOR MAKING UP YOUR N2 ACTION YOU LYING SCUMFUCK

VOTE: AP

AP IS SCUM PLEASE LYNCH ACCORDINGLY

VOTE: Cupcake Panda

Lying or gambiting.

In post 5279, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 5229, AngryPidgeon wrote:Also, someone is being ridiculously dead-pan about events in the thread and I think they are skyrocketing to my favorite lynch rather quickly.

I kind of expected someone to bite on this or at least play 20 questions with me.

Buuuuut no one has, so I'll say that these posts have stuck out like a sore thumb:

In post 5203, magenta_thegreat wrote:Hi

Team

Was Yggdra actually a scum nightkill?

In post 5206, magenta_thegreat wrote:i want to do a flavor mass claim

Its like Magenta became a robot over the night phase.

Did anybody use a robot-izer on Magenta or are they just scum?

Nothing changed, they've been scum this whole time. By the way are they calling me scum yet? If they aren't Mara hasn't read the thread

prepost edit at CF: I'm just not caught up yet, I'll adjust when I get to it.

@Whoever is asking me to gameclaim: symphonia, we've said this before.

And of course, something happens now that forces me to step away for a while. I'll finish today.

In post 5468, fferyllt wrote:

In post 5459, PeregrineV wrote:
If you were town and had the role to pick one of two players to die instead of you, how would you go about it? Think of how you'd do it as scum.

How did Orcunis do it?

If he didn't have strong scumreads or bother reading the game, why force the use of his ability? Statistically random picks are anti-town. Uninformed picks are basically the same.

It's like that late-day wagon on orcinus never happened in your world.

sigh.

also fucking p-edits.

In post 5467, CarbonFiber wrote:PV, take a break. Tammy is the towniest she's ever been in any game ever that I've played with her before. I strongly advise you against vigging her and since you think I'm so town, trust me on this.

Your read is another reason I avoided shooting her last night. But coming into the day with the exact same mentality as yesterday? And refusing to scumhunt? Chirst, make her at least act town enough if you want me to pretend she is.

In post 5469, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 5463, CupcakePanda wrote:

In post 5373, AngryPidgeon wrote:

In post 5313, CupcakePanda wrote:AP

FULLCLAIM NEXT POST

I already have? Im a modified cop. I submit 3 names every night and the mafia team selects one for me to get either Replica or Not Replica on. I was allowed to target Kagura on N1 and got no result which was weird. I got Not Replica back on BWS last night. Im in Tales of Hearts. Calcedny Arcome, Town Lawful Commander. I think I claimed all that before but its possible I havent.

THANKS FOR MAKING UP YOUR N2 ACTION YOU LYING SCUMFUCK

VOTE: AP

AP IS SCUM PLEASE LYNCH ACCORDINGLY

VOTE: Cupcake Panda

Lying or gambiting.

why?

In post 5470, The Fox and the Hound wrote:Nothing changed, they've been scum this whole time. By the way are they calling me scum yet? If they aren't Mara hasn't read the thread

Care to explain this?

Also I want Cupcake Panda dead today. I dont care if this is Katsuki a la Fate Mafia 2 or just scum, but Im not putting up with this shit.

I know for a 100% fact that my role succeeded on Stalin and there is zero way Panda can have any belief of the contrary.