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Post Post #5450 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:08 am

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In post 5449, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 5448, Gloria Cleary wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 5443, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 309, Zdenek wrote:I've read up to page 6, and skimmed the more recent stuff.
Unvote


Consider my vote on Noraa.
In post 63, MURDERCAT wrote:Ok I still haven't read but I have a question that I want answered by the time I do, should we change how we lim? Like if there is someone who people townlean but we know they have a strong scum game are we more likely to vote them in this setup?
Can I ask what led you to this? I'm curious because it came up in the thread and it makes me question whether you've read or not.

I'm inclined to agree that Noraa's town-slip looks faked, and the meta argument for why it is scummy seems good to me.
what even is this considering zdenek is scum
In post 757, Zdenek wrote:
In post 691, UNOwen wrote:
In post 685, Zdenek wrote: My top three scum reads are Noraa, Owen and Bell.
What's this all about?
In post 298, UNOwen wrote:Ah yes, I knew that my vote against Noraa would lead to good things.
The wagon looks promising, Noraa's reaction to the pressure has indeed been flaily.
Adorable's vote was not great.
and then explaining why he quoted these
In post 796, Zdenek wrote:
In post 758, UNOwen wrote:@Zdenek - But what's it all about?
Laziness, and bolstering and attacking the wagon on Noraa in the same post.
fred may not have an interaction with adorable
but zdenek does

this interaction also leads me to believe unowen is town
and supports my thoughts that adorable is scum


Can you explain this? I understand your UNOwen!town read but not your Adorable sr based on this?
zdenek was defending adorable by attacking unowen

i suppose there are other explanations for that though
Reading through Zdenek's iso it looked more like he was attacking UNOwen. From what I remember scum are the ones who don't defend their buddy.
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Post Post #5451 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:46 am

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I never really did understand the UNOwen srs but yeah UNOwen doesn’t look like a Fred buddy based on that.
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Post Post #5452 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:47 am

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In post 5450, Adorable wrote:
In post 5449, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 5448, Gloria Cleary wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 5443, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 309, Zdenek wrote:I've read up to page 6, and skimmed the more recent stuff.
Unvote


Consider my vote on Noraa.
In post 63, MURDERCAT wrote:Ok I still haven't read but I have a question that I want answered by the time I do, should we change how we lim? Like if there is someone who people townlean but we know they have a strong scum game are we more likely to vote them in this setup?
Can I ask what led you to this? I'm curious because it came up in the thread and it makes me question whether you've read or not.

I'm inclined to agree that Noraa's town-slip looks faked, and the meta argument for why it is scummy seems good to me.
what even is this considering zdenek is scum
In post 757, Zdenek wrote:
In post 691, UNOwen wrote:
In post 685, Zdenek wrote: My top three scum reads are Noraa, Owen and Bell.
What's this all about?
In post 298, UNOwen wrote:Ah yes, I knew that my vote against Noraa would lead to good things.
The wagon looks promising, Noraa's reaction to the pressure has indeed been flaily.
Adorable's vote was not great.
and then explaining why he quoted these
In post 796, Zdenek wrote:
In post 758, UNOwen wrote:@Zdenek - But what's it all about?
Laziness, and bolstering and attacking the wagon on Noraa in the same post.
fred may not have an interaction with adorable
but zdenek does

this interaction also leads me to believe unowen is town
and supports my thoughts that adorable is scum


Can you explain this? I understand your UNOwen!town read but not your Adorable sr based on this?
zdenek was defending adorable by attacking unowen

i suppose there are other explanations for that though
Reading through Zdenek's iso it looked more like he was attacking UNOwen. From what I remember scum are the ones who don't defend their buddy.
Or did I misunderstand you, do you think Zdeneck and UNOwen are distancing?
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Post Post #5453 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:55 am

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In post 5368, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 5366, Titus wrote:Gloria, just who are you scumreading? I see a lot of townreads coming from you but I worry I am getting pocketed.
I know there’s a lot to read but I think I’ve been pretty clear about this.

If I’m right on Fred flipping scum then I’m going to be focusing on who he left off of his list, because while scum could of course still be in it, that fact remains that he put everyone on it in potential danger. so whomever Fred’s trajectories and reads progression from off that list were suspicious, is probably where most of the scum are.

I think there’s a reason why LLD got the scroll while Mush did not, so that tells me that if Fred is scum than Mush is probably on track, because if Fred is scum, why not scroll Mush who is the most widely consensus tr who is currently having the most influence on the game? Obvious answer: scum!Fred fears Mush’s scroll.
Alright. I'll take this for now, but I expect you to actually look and see who is inconsistently read after the three flips.

To be fair, I'm looking at my VCA asap with the assumption Fred is scum. I just haven't got there because of RL.
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Post Post #5454 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:05 am

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In post 5452, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 5450, Adorable wrote:
In post 5449, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 5448, Gloria Cleary wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 5443, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 309, Zdenek wrote:I've read up to page 6, and skimmed the more recent stuff.
Unvote


Consider my vote on Noraa.
In post 63, MURDERCAT wrote:Ok I still haven't read but I have a question that I want answered by the time I do, should we change how we lim? Like if there is someone who people townlean but we know they have a strong scum game are we more likely to vote them in this setup?
Can I ask what led you to this? I'm curious because it came up in the thread and it makes me question whether you've read or not.

I'm inclined to agree that Noraa's town-slip looks faked, and the meta argument for why it is scummy seems good to me.
what even is this considering zdenek is scum
In post 757, Zdenek wrote:
In post 691, UNOwen wrote:
In post 685, Zdenek wrote: My top three scum reads are Noraa, Owen and Bell.
What's this all about?
In post 298, UNOwen wrote:Ah yes, I knew that my vote against Noraa would lead to good things.
The wagon looks promising, Noraa's reaction to the pressure has indeed been flaily.
Adorable's vote was not great.
and then explaining why he quoted these
In post 796, Zdenek wrote:
In post 758, UNOwen wrote:@Zdenek - But what's it all about?
Laziness, and bolstering and attacking the wagon on Noraa in the same post.
fred may not have an interaction with adorable
but zdenek does

this interaction also leads me to believe unowen is town
and supports my thoughts that adorable is scum


Can you explain this? I understand your UNOwen!town read but not your Adorable sr based on this?
zdenek was defending adorable by attacking unowen

i suppose there are other explanations for that though
Reading through Zdenek's iso it looked more like he was attacking UNOwen. From what I remember scum are the ones who don't defend their buddy.
Or did I misunderstand you, do you think Zdeneck and UNOwen are distancing?
You misunderstood me. These kind of interaction I can't tell and I'm leaning on it not looking like this is distancing.
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Post Post #5455 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:06 pm

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In post 5453, Titus wrote:
In post 5368, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 5366, Titus wrote:Gloria, just who are you scumreading? I see a lot of townreads coming from you but I worry I am getting pocketed.
I know there’s a lot to read but I think I’ve been pretty clear about this.

If I’m right on Fred flipping scum then I’m going to be focusing on who he left off of his list, because while scum could of course still be in it, that fact remains that he put everyone on it in potential danger. so whomever Fred’s trajectories and reads progression from off that list were suspicious, is probably where most of the scum are.

I think there’s a reason why LLD got the scroll while Mush did not, so that tells me that if Fred is scum than Mush is probably on track, because if Fred is scum, why not scroll Mush who is the most widely consensus tr who is currently having the most influence on the game? Obvious answer: scum!Fred fears Mush’s scroll.
Alright. I'll take this for now, but I expect you to actually look and see who is inconsistently read after the three flips.

To be fair, I'm looking at my VCA asap with the assumption Fred is scum. I just haven't got there because of RL.
I’ve been doing that. Haven’t you been reading my posts?
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Post Post #5456 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:10 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 5454, Adorable wrote:
In post 5452, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 5450, Adorable wrote:
In post 5449, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 5448, Gloria Cleary wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 5443, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 309, Zdenek wrote:I've read up to page 6, and skimmed the more recent stuff.
Unvote


Consider my vote on Noraa.
In post 63, MURDERCAT wrote:Ok I still haven't read but I have a question that I want answered by the time I do, should we change how we lim? Like if there is someone who people townlean but we know they have a strong scum game are we more likely to vote them in this setup?
Can I ask what led you to this? I'm curious because it came up in the thread and it makes me question whether you've read or not.

I'm inclined to agree that Noraa's town-slip looks faked, and the meta argument for why it is scummy seems good to me.
what even is this considering zdenek is scum
In post 757, Zdenek wrote:
In post 691, UNOwen wrote:
In post 685, Zdenek wrote: My top three scum reads are Noraa, Owen and Bell.
What's this all about?
In post 298, UNOwen wrote:Ah yes, I knew that my vote against Noraa would lead to good things.
The wagon looks promising, Noraa's reaction to the pressure has indeed been flaily.
Adorable's vote was not great.
and then explaining why he quoted these
In post 796, Zdenek wrote:
In post 758, UNOwen wrote:@Zdenek - But what's it all about?
Laziness, and bolstering and attacking the wagon on Noraa in the same post.
fred may not have an interaction with adorable
but zdenek does

this interaction also leads me to believe unowen is town
and supports my thoughts that adorable is scum
Can you explain this? I understand your UNOwen!town read but not your Adorable sr based on this?
zdenek was defending adorable by attacking unowen

i suppose there are other explanations for that though
Reading through Zdenek's iso it looked more like he was attacking UNOwen. From what I remember scum are the ones who don't defend their buddy.
Or did I misunderstand you, do you think Zdeneck and UNOwen are distancing?
You misunderstood me. These kind of interaction I can't tell and I'm leaning on it not looking like this is distancing.


I agree with that, it doesn’t look like distancing.
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Post Post #5457 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:03 pm

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mush it never ceases to amaze how bad your takes are regarding me.
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Post Post #5458 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:06 pm

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people who are scum:
fidget
bell
pooky
unowen
titus
shelly

i bet at least 4 of my scum actually are scum.
this was my scumlist at the start of today. add in fred and take out bell, i still feel pretty good about it.
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Post Post #5459 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:22 pm

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In post 5283, Bell wrote:I'm tunneled on Shelly and Taylor I think.
i dont think i can be scum with shelly. well im not, but i think it should be obvious that im not.
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Post Post #5460 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:27 pm

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In post 5388, Gloria Cleary wrote:@Tayl0r, what’s your current read on Theta?
ive really not been able to sort theta. early on i thought theta was townish when most people were scumleaning there. later on i decided to leave theta out of PoE. but theta's posts really arent memorable and i dont have much of a read. i could buy theta scum but my PoE makes sense without theta, too.
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Post Post #5461 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:29 pm

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In post 5399, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 5390, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Theta /looks scummy/ but has no meaningful associatives, which I feel are way stronger for identifying scum. So I'd save Theta for later.
and this is why i win my scum games

i would expect the list fred made to have one buddy on it
but who even knows


figure out who fred did not interact with

then look at those people and see which ones did not interact with each other
the strategy i mentioned that heavily tilts the game in scums favor is forming minimal associatives with other buddies

p-edit
i actually flip green here
and i am also perfectly fine with flipping here instead of later in the game where it gives scum the game
i kind of doubt lambdadelta will be back soon enough to change her vote
but i guess we will see
i think this comes from town tho.
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Post Post #5462 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:34 pm

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There was one post from Theta that pinged scum to me. It was the one where she said something like LLD wouldn't be back fast enough to change her vote. That was a super weird thing to say considering when she said this, there was legit like 21 hours left on the timer or something. Besides that Thetas a big question mark and a null. Theta's been coasting away this game quite a bit and I feel like no matter what Theta flips, I want to go back and look at ThetaxAdorable interactions cuz I remember there was something juicy but I can't remember what exactly it was.
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Post Post #5463 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:35 pm

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In post 5461, Tayl0r Swift wrote:i kind of doubt lambdadelta will be back soon enough to change her vote
This post
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Post Post #5464 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:35 pm

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I just realized Taylor had quoted the exact post right above my posts.
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Post Post #5465 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:54 pm

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In post 5459, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 5283, Bell wrote:I'm tunneled on Shelly and Taylor I think.
i dont think i can be scum with shelly. well im not, but i think it should be obvious that im not.
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Post Post #5466 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:54 pm

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Well I don't really care.
One of you is gunna get flipped.
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Post Post #5467 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:04 pm

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really do not think lambdadelta will get here soon enough
or for that matter change her mind if she does get back
so i will abandon my traditional self placement of null since i will flip pretty soon

conf town
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lambdadelta
theta - soon enough

prob town
unowen
pooky
titus

null
noraa
gloria
bell
mush
murdercat
fidget

lean scum
tayl0r
shellyc
flea
lapsa

prob scum
adorable

conf scum
fred
as town won 2 games | lost 5 games | mislynched 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled once | vengekilled once | survived once
as scum won 2 games | lost none | lynched once | dayvigged once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #5468 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:05 pm

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Didnt this lurker rep out? Also who was the replacement?
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Post Post #5469 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:07 pm

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In post 5467, Theta Alpine wrote:prob town
unowen
pooky
titus

null
noraa
gloria
bell
mush
murdercat
fidget
Can you go into more detail on this read rather than just slapping some names on the table and calling it a day?
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Post Post #5470 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:13 pm

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In post 5468, Noraa wrote:
Didnt this lurker rep out? Also who was the replacement?
i was just going off of the alive list

i do not remember if they got replaced
as town won 2 games | lost 5 games | mislynched 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled once | vengekilled once | survived once
as scum won 2 games | lost none | lynched once | dayvigged once
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Post Post #5471 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:14 pm

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I think they got replaced but I dont remember who the replacement was so maybe they didnt get replaced. Idk lemme go check
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Post Post #5472 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:14 pm

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In post 4794, Hectic wrote:
DrippingGoofball replaces Lapsa! Give her the warmest welcome.
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Post Post #5473 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:16 pm

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In post 5471, Noraa wrote:I think they got replaced but I dont remember who the replacement was so maybe they didnt get replaced. Idk lemme go check
i believe that's DGB now. also thats a pretty bad readlist imo.
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Post Post #5474 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:17 pm

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In post 5467, Theta Alpine wrote:null
murdercat
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