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In post 5442, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 5106, VP Baltar wrote:VP's PoE to victory:

Town to probably town:

VP Baltar
MathBlade
Galron
fireisredsir
Titus
April Ludgate
Cape90

Scum are almost all here:

Frogsterking
Save The Dragons
Nero Cain
Eyes without a face

Get out of my dreams and into my car (aka, work a little bit to prove you are town if you're in this pool):

DeasVail
Enchant
tenebrousluminary
Scorpious

@titus, I don't think much has changed about this reads list. Bottom pile is the null to scummy folks, and I'd guess there is max 1 scum in there. I probably wouldn't lim in that pile until later if I didn't have to. Either some of those folks will rise to the occassion and start separating themselves as more townie, night actions will help (possibly unlikely unless we have another weak investigative), or y'all kill the scum RB and Enchant really is a vig who can clear out some detritus.

Only other caveat I'd say is if Nero doesn't flip scum somehow after I'm gone, I still think Cape is town and Math is right about galron. Statistically, I think that's unlikely and you should trust the yeet clear until flips say otherwise.

Outside dark horse is April with that weird claim start of day, but probably town who felt like shit after the malcom lim and decided overnight that mercy is the only option. Good luck this game, you're going to need it.

In post 5450, MathBlade wrote:first 100% town driven wagon.

In post 5451, DeasVail wrote:Re: the above reads list, I feel like you should have enough content from myself and tene at the very least to have some kind of read there, yet you seem to blame us for not having worked enough. I don’t know how active tene has been this game day, but in my case it feels a bit like opportunistically exploiting my lower activity this game day, as I feel I have been quite actively involved prior to this day.

In post 5452, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 5450, MathBlade wrote:first 100% town driven wagon.

what you mean is you are getting your way, and your way is right because you're a mason.

Fine. I can't find any other ways to tell you that logic is not thoughtful, and you're incorrect. I'm out of ideas truly. When I'm dead, follow my town bloc and lim some scum for a change.

In post 5454, MathBlade wrote:

In post 5452, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 5450, MathBlade wrote:first 100% town driven wagon.

what you mean is you are getting your way, and your way is right because you're a mason.

Fine. I can't find any other ways to tell you that logic is not thoughtful, and you're incorrect. I'm out of ideas truly. When I'm dead, follow my town bloc and lim some scum for a change.

I didn’t say I was right I said towndriven.

If you’re town then that almost certainly means Nero and maaaaybe Cape.

This being the first wagon that is town driven means it becomes a lot easier to find scum on it if you’re town.

In post 5454, MathBlade wrote:If you’re town then that almost certainly means Nero and maaaaybe Cape.

In post 5455, Enchant wrote:

In post 5454, MathBlade wrote:

In post 5452, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 5450, MathBlade wrote:first 100% town driven wagon.

what you mean is you are getting your way, and your way is right because you're a mason.

Fine. I can't find any other ways to tell you that logic is not thoughtful, and you're incorrect. I'm out of ideas truly. When I'm dead, follow my town bloc and lim some scum for a change.

I didn’t say I was right I said towndriven.

If you’re town then that almost certainly means Nero and maaaaybe Cape.

This being the first wagon that is town driven means it becomes a lot easier to find scum on it if you’re town.

... What.

In post 5456, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 5454, MathBlade wrote:If you’re town then that almost certainly means Nero and maaaaybe Cape.

I don't think there are two scum in the hood. You should let that go when you see my flip.

You could still be right about galron, I just don't think the odds are on it.

Look, I'm not mad at you if you need to flip me. I'm slightly frustrated because it's an ego sting to be limmed, and because I think I've put as much or more effort into this game than about anyone. I feel like half this game is gaslighting me, but all I ask is people use my flip to make much better decisions going forward.

Work with Titus. She is likely town here.

In post 5458, MathBlade wrote:

In post 5456, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 5454, MathBlade wrote:If you’re town then that almost certainly means Nero and maaaaybe Cape.

I don't think there are two scum in the hood. You should let that go when you see my flip.

You could still be right about galron, I just don't think the odds are on it.

Look, I'm not mad at you if you need to flip me. I'm slightly frustrated because it's an ego sting to be limmed, and because I think I've put as much or more effort into this game than about anyone. I feel like half this game is gaslighting me, but all I ask is people use my flip to make much better decisions going forward.

Work with Titus. She is likely town here.

How do you explain D1 if Titus is town?

In post 5460, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 5458, MathBlade wrote:

In post 5456, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 5454, MathBlade wrote:If you’re town then that almost certainly means Nero and maaaaybe Cape.

I don't think there are two scum in the hood. You should let that go when you see my flip.

You could still be right about galron, I just don't think the odds are on it.

Look, I'm not mad at you if you need to flip me. I'm slightly frustrated because it's an ego sting to be limmed, and because I think I've put as much or more effort into this game than about anyone. I feel like half this game is gaslighting me, but all I ask is people use my flip to make much better decisions going forward.

Work with Titus. She is likely town here.

How do you explain D1 if Titus is town?

can you be more specific?

In post 5462, Titus wrote:Pride, thy name is town. There's a reason it's a deadly sin Math.

In post 5463, MathBlade wrote:

In post 5462, Titus wrote:Pride, thy name is town. There's a reason it's a deadly sin Math.

How is this pride? I am considering you town (meaning I am wrong on you) and asking a broad question of what that means for D1.

In post 5451, DeasVail wrote:

In post 5442, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 5106, VP Baltar wrote:VP's PoE to victory:

Town to probably town:

VP Baltar
MathBlade
Galron
fireisredsir
Titus
April Ludgate
Cape90

Scum are almost all here:

Frogsterking
Save The Dragons
Nero Cain
Eyes without a face

Get out of my dreams and into my car (aka, work a little bit to prove you are town if you're in this pool):

DeasVail
Enchant
tenebrousluminary
Scorpious

@titus, I don't think much has changed about this reads list. Bottom pile is the null to scummy folks, and I'd guess there is max 1 scum in there. I probably wouldn't lim in that pile until later if I didn't have to. Either some of those folks will rise to the occassion and start separating themselves as more townie, night actions will help (possibly unlikely unless we have another weak investigative), or y'all kill the scum RB and Enchant really is a vig who can clear out some detritus.

Only other caveat I'd say is if Nero doesn't flip scum somehow after I'm gone, I still think Cape is town and Math is right about galron. Statistically, I think that's unlikely and you should trust the yeet clear until flips say otherwise.

Outside dark horse is April with that weird claim start of day, but probably town who felt like shit after the malcom lim and decided overnight that mercy is the only option. Good luck this game, you're going to need it.

Re: the above reads list, I feel like you should have enough content from myself and tene at the very least to have some kind of read there, yet you seem to blame us for not having worked enough. I don’t know how active tene has been this game day, but in my case it feels a bit like opportunistically exploiting my lower activity this game day, as I feel I have been quite actively involved prior to this day.

In post 5464, Titus wrote:

In post 5463, MathBlade wrote:

In post 5462, Titus wrote:Pride, thy name is town. There's a reason it's a deadly sin Math.

How is this pride? I am considering you town (meaning I am wrong on you) and asking a broad question of what that means for D1.

That literally is the answer. We're literally scumreading opposition while scum sit back and watch. That's pride to assume that there's only one reasonable school of thought.

In post 5467, MathBlade wrote:It’s starting from facts namely if you’re town every wagon D1 was on town
If VP is town and Galron is town then every wagon for the entire game has been on town

Then who is scum in that set of facts? It’s assuming what you want me to and asking broad questions.

In post 5468, Titus wrote:

In post 5467, MathBlade wrote:It’s starting from facts namely if you’re town every wagon D1 was on town
If VP is town and Galron is town then every wagon for the entire game has been on town

Then who is scum in that set of facts? It’s assuming what you want me to and asking broad questions.

Town cannibalizing its loud vocal players strongly indicates pride. Namely, slots are getting scumread because they oppose other vocal townread slots.

How many people contributed to today beyond saying VP is a good/ok elimination? There's far too many players that sat back and let this elimination go through. Scum have no interest in saving VP.

In post 5461, MathBlade wrote:

In post 5460, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 5458, MathBlade wrote:

In post 5456, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 5454, MathBlade wrote:If you’re town then that almost certainly means Nero and maaaaybe Cape.

I don't think there are two scum in the hood. You should let that go when you see my flip.

You could still be right about galron, I just don't think the odds are on it.

Look, I'm not mad at you if you need to flip me. I'm slightly frustrated because it's an ego sting to be limmed, and because I think I've put as much or more effort into this game than about anyone. I feel like half this game is gaslighting me, but all I ask is people use my flip to make much better decisions going forward.

Work with Titus. She is likely town here.

How do you explain D1 if Titus is town?

can you be more specific?

Almost every wagon (if not every wagon I don’t have my notes) that ever got above 3 people would be on town if Titus is town. That’s not an opinion either
Wu, Datisi, HEM, and myself were the only ones with serious wagons D1. Titus is Datisi.

In post 5469, tenebrousluminary wrote:If VP is town, scum are either doing nothing and laughing as we chase our tails, or playing embarrassingly large circles around us.