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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:01 am
by Zachrulez
From what I can see though, all you need to do is blanket wards across as many of the targets as you can.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:03 am
by hitogoroshi
I admit I only followed it half-assed after I died, but stalking mechanics got VP (and he probably would have been totally safe without them - I had zero suspicion of him until the unclaimed rez, at which point he was 95% confirmed cult), unclaimed rez got Spyrex basicially entirely, ward got BS, general night action fuckery got Andrius killed before other lurkers, Feysal and Triglav both had night-action components to their cases I'm pretty sure. There wasn't a single culitst who wasn't at least partially implicated by something involving the stalk or murder actions, if memory serves right.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:04 am
by VP Baltar
Obnoxiously long scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/ZBEtMKPXfjBK

Scum Claimed Actions Spreadsheet: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key ... 7-8L#gid=0

Scum Actual Actions Spreadsheet: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key ... 7-8L#gid=0


Big thanks to Feysal for keeping these spreadsheets up to date. He worked very hard. The last few nights weren't input I think, but that's my fault.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:05 am
by Zachrulez
Andrius never should have gotten as far as he did tbh. The obsession with the setup allowed him to live a bit longer than he should have.

Same with kunkstar x20

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:06 am
by VP Baltar
Zachrulez wrote:From what I can see though, all you need to do is blanket wards across as many of the targets as you can.
It doesn't work because you can't circle ward as a cult team. So yeah, we can ward a couple cult and a couple town, but if a stalk goes through on one of the unwarded cult members we are completely screwed. Additionally, warding stops cult from being able to launder and hide the ritual, so we are then exposed to forensics tools. It is a whole mess of bad for the town. That's why I give props to Hito for coming up with it and Seacore for implementing it.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:08 am
by Sotty7
I always though that the stalk murder plan would have gone a lot better if there was no stalk list. Just have the nom'ed stalkers pick whoever they wanted to stalk and done it. That way cult wouldn't have much of an idea who was under a target. Of course any confirmed townies are auto non stalkable.

But yeah Zach is right, I'm not good on relying on the set up to do the work for me.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:08 am
by totallynotmafia
Thing is if I had followed the stalk plan I would never have outed vp to begin with.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:10 am
by Benmage
Surprised we won after that slowass start.

Baby spice bled scum as did kunk.

But then again so did plum.

The murdering plan was all hito.

Also, not being scummy....probably could've kept your from being murdered.

If I was MoI going for murderer I might not count this as a win...

How did fate get his insanity? Did u guys really give it to his corpse?

Zach, misres on xvart and somehow not thinking me town had me disliking ur slot.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:10 am
by Zachrulez
totallynotmafia wrote:Thing is if I had followed the stalk plan I would never have outed vp to begin with.
Yeah... there is that.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:11 am
by Zachrulez
Benmage wrote:
Zach, misres on xvart and somehow not thinking me town had me disliking ur slot.
Got paranoid a little bit there.

All is forgiven.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:12 am
by hitogoroshi
Oh god that QT. I'm going to use the "printer-friendly" version to read it in 400 post chunks.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:14 am
by Benmage
Yeah probably shouldn't have had a people to stalk list.

Less likely to have people trying to sneak in as murders too.

I was baffled when tnm said he tried to sneak in on like D8

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:14 am
by VP Baltar
hitogoroshi wrote:Oh god that QT. I'm going to use the "printer-friendly" version to read it in 400 post chunks.
Here's the TL;DR version:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

*murder plan*

oh shi-, oh shi-,oh shi-,oh shi-,oh shi-,oh shi-,oh shi-,oh shi-,oh shi-

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:16 am
by Benmage
Great feysal shot.

Told seacore I had a town read on nacho from something nopoint did.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:17 am
by totallynotmafia
Yeah for some reason I got the impression rezzed murders still counted to the win con.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:25 am
by Benmage
totallynotmafia wrote:Yeah for some reason I got the impression rezzed murders still counted to the win con.
That was my wholes defense for why I was town!!

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:27 am
by Sotty7
All in all I am just REALLY happy we some how won, how it happened isn't that important in the long run.

I can finally move on :lol:

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:29 am
by MagnaofIllusion
Benmage wrote:.

If I was MoI going for murderer I might not count this as a win...
Never intended to ... I was going Murderer and will not be logging this as a win.

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:31 am
by chesskid3
IN that case I withdraw my complaint about MoI sharing the win and switch it to a HAHAHAHAHAHAH you got owned

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:32 am
by Zachrulez
Which hydra were you a part of in the game Chess?

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:32 am
by chesskid3
I wasn't in this game >_>

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:36 am
by AurorusVox
Brief "Yay Victory!" post...I like how:

(a) I played much more townish when my death was sealed
(b) I got the TNM/VPB stalk the complete wrong way around
(c) I convinced myself Spy wasn't scum for a very long time based on not wanting to OMGUS
(d) My "stalked target uses the rez-kit" plan was somewhat effective
(e) This game fawking roxxed my soxxs.

VPB played a decent game for the first half, and it was thanks for TNM's ballsy gutsy deviance that he was caught. I submit myself to you.
I think I found out Feysal was scum way before his flip through the dead QT so its hard to judge him alone.
Triglav I kept getting confused with Trilobite. I still don't know which one was scum and which one was town...>_>"

<3333333333

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:38 am
by Zachrulez
chesskid3 wrote:I wasn't in this game >_>
Oh the way you're talking about it I thought you were...

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:39 am
by chesskid3
I read like every game ever

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:57 am
by Sotty7
AurorusVox wrote:Triglav I kept getting confused with Trilobite. I still don't know which one was scum and which one was town...>_>"
This makes me sad.