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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:22 am

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Still need opinions from Vino and Kairyuu.
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:59 pm

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@Vino. What is there to explain? I compiled the post as i went and in comparision to those left im caught between you and KDub if there are 2scum left. You've made no mistakes thus far and seem cool calm in collected in almost every regard. Im not suggesting a lynch on anyone atm but you, Kairyuu and KDub leave me wondering. In fact everyone does really but were i to try to narrow it down then you are the people i would choose between in the order of Kaiyruu, you and then KDub.

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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:18 am

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Snow: you think Vino is cool, calm and collected? Not only did he get his vote disregarded yesterday, he both voted for himself for being useless and then forgot it didn't count and voted for Kise. I'm not quite so sure why people are getting pro-town vibes from Vino.

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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:17 am

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I think there's a decent possibility. I haven't seen anything that would make me think it's unlikely you could be Kise's partner, if that's what you were wondering. You did indicate some suspicion and voted him on D2, but that was after the CJ wagon got going, so your vote didn't really accomplish much. And of course, you jumped on the CJ wagon by the end of the day.
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:57 am

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Sajin wrote:Still need opinions from Vino and Kairyuu.
Sorry, I thought I gave you all my opinions. Opinions on what?
Snow White wrote:You've made no mistakes thus far and seem cool calm in collected in almost every regard.
I'm with Locke. I pretty much fucked up yesterday, I don't see how anybody could have a "calm and collected" read after the way I behaved. This reads like buddying to me. You seem like you are having trouble forming consistent opinions.
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:47 am

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Forgive me if my memory is vague. I believe memory is better at this stage than rereading because im going on gut more so than anything else. How so did you fuck up? Getting your vote removed? I wouldnt call that incredibly incriminating. Equally i dont see self voting as incredulously scummy. Likewise i may have missed something. X( But i failled to note any big blow out resulting from any actins you've taken.

Yes. Its so clear to see i am buddying you, by saying ive gotten good vibes in the past from you, that i dont think you've done much to warrant a vote but yet name you second to Kai for someone i would think as scum if i had to make a choice of 2scum. Flattering innit? /sarcasm.

What are you suggesting Vino? Inconsistent views? lol. Spit out whatever you have to say instead of pussyfooting around things. If you have a serious allegation, say it so i can attempt to explain myself, if there is anything for actual explaining to be done.

Ive been nothing but frank with my opinions and in case you are unaware, opinions are consistently changing based on other peoples views and interaction or thereof lack of actions.
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:21 am

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The crux of the matter is that you read like someone who already knows what all of the alignments are.
Snow White wrote:incriminating ... scummy
You said that, not me. I said I fucked up with shoddy play yesterday, not that it made look scummy. That's a judgment call on your part and in fact saying this is a turn-around from what you've been saying about me the whole game.

This is a game about everybody distrusting everybody, and to think that I'm so townie that you treat me with such confidence is what I don't like. Also I didn't like your defense of Kise yesterday, I see you as a very likely scum partner.

With an argument like that I may as well
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:32 am

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Me sounding like i know everyone's alignment is a fallacy. I dont, as everyone will eventually find out. In fact its quite the opposte. Ive not just vocally trusted scum, i have trusted scum. Whatever. The crux for me is that you have to place a certain amount of trust in someone you believe has the greatest possiblity of being town, hope they're town and thats what i have done and will continue to do so long as i am living.

Post quote please. And i KNOW day one i found you one of the most towniest. Day2, my opinion may have changed but your current "reasoning" for your vote of me "knowing" peoples alignment has not helped my opinion of you.

The last person to suggest i "knew" the alignment of players was scum. Ill find the meta on that if anyone wants it.

Ps. The fact that i stuck up for Kise, really indicates i knew his alignment /sarcasm.

Please, before someone places another vote on me, let me claim before im hung.
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:27 am

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That you stuck up for Kise makes sense because if you're scum partners, it's not out of the realm of possibility that you might stick up for him.

Also I'm pretty sure I'm the only person voting right now.
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:09 am

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Vino wrote:That you stuck up for Kise makes sense because if you're scum partners, it's not out of the realm of possibility that you might stick up for him.

Also I'm pretty sure I'm the only person voting right now.
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:18 am

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@Vino if there are two scum then its not beyond the possiblity were you innocent they could have jumped on me at this point. No? Or maybe there is just one scum which requires another innocents vote before im hung.

Lastly please reply to Sajin. I'd like this game to be more active.
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:51 am

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My scum picks would be Show White obviously and someone else, but I honestly haven't decided.
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:11 am

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Vino wrote:My scum picks would be Show White obviously and someone else, but I honestly haven't decided.

Why are you voting then before you answered the question I asked way earlier?

Who do you think snow white is partnered with and a short reason why please.
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:03 pm

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Huzzah. I have returned from my extended end-of-semester V/LA stint, and now have nearly a month of winter break with nothing but leisure time (god I wish that was true, though I still don't have any real major commitments besides going back to my job back home).

So yeah. I'm back. I'll do a full reread (probably) and then make some semblance of a post recapping what I missed.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:42 pm

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Sajin wrote:
Vino wrote:My scum picks would be Show White obviously and someone else, but I honestly haven't decided.

Why are you voting then before you answered the question I asked way earlier?
I'm not allowed to vote on someone I think is scum? And I thought I already answered all of your questions.
Sajin wrote:Who do you think snow white is partnered with and a short reason why please.
I haven't decided yet, and that's the only answer you're going to get out of me for the time being.
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:20 pm

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@Vino i would still like that quote number and why you voted for me when if you are innocent in can be presumed that if there are two scum they could potentially jump.

If this game stalls any longer then ill be hung this would be being bad. <3

@Vino. You have found no one else subject to your suspicion?
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:37 am

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Well they haven't have they?

I've got other people in mind but not stalwartly enough to finger.

Sajin, I think we should proceed with this game, Kai is obviously not going to get around to giving you the information you want any time soon.
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:52 am

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@Vino. Well this is assuming you are an innocent and not scum. Secondly, its also a very daring move for a townie.

Who is in your mind?

Proceeding with the game is ilk to get someone hung without much effort. Can people please provide views, opinions on each other? Good point points, bad points. etc.etc.

Where the hell is Locke and Kai? :/
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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:53 am

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*holy shit i just forgot KDub. My bad.

But one up hand it kinda proves a point.
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:02 pm

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Vino wrote:Well they haven't have they?

I've got other people in mind but not stalwartly enough to finger.

Sajin, I think we should proceed with this game, Kai is obviously not going to get around to giving you the information you want any time soon.
Is that suspicious to you?

When Kairyuu answers my question we can move on. I will then talk about my track results. That should unstall the game.
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:21 pm

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I already said Locke was my main suspect. Just waiting for Kairyuu to check in and Sajin to proceed.
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:58 pm

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@Sajin:
Sajin wrote:@Kairyuu- It was ML/LO day. If I were scum I would of been attacking for the win. More than likely, scum feared a protective role on me (and that is some more WIFOM, but less so then yours imo). I assume your referring to WoT?
You are correct, the reference is to WoT. Also, it's attacking for the win like that that gets scum screwed over in lylo by changing their behavior a little
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Snow White: I had something much much earlier that might still apply, but that would require effort, and I'm lazy. Also, defending conf-scum is essentially a death warrent. Preferred lynch.

She also seems to be writhing at the pressure right now dealing with a single vote, which is scummy in and of itself.

Locke: More tenuous of a connection, but the fact that Kise chose Locke for his "proof" when he was, in actuality, a scum roleblocker means that he likely had some way to verify whether or not Locke had an ability. The natural progression from here is that either Locke is scum and Kise knew whether he had a role that way, or the scumteam has a rolecop, and Locke was investigated.

I will wait for your tracker result claim before voting for Snow_White, but unless it's gonna hand us another scum I likely won't be voting anyone else.
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:34 am

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I would love to see your "much much earlier stuff" on me that still applies. And i must insist on this if your going to accuse me of being anti town in anything but yesterdays lynch then i want to know what it is im supposed to have done so i can defend myself.

What happened to your "probable full reread"?

You are voting me more or less because i
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made a wrong call yesterday. And even at that i said that if most people wanted Kise gone i'd use my vote as Vino's and vote for Kise. Oh well. I thought we were making a mistake and i was wrong. Ce sera.

Vino. Can you please reply to Sajins last question.

I suppose this is where Sajin gives his scum team and results of last night...
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:39 am

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I'm here. Will post as soon as I can (tonight/tomorrow morning).
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:15 am

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Sajin wrote:Is that suspicious to you?
I try not to read into this kind of thing too much, sometimes people are just busy. He did after all come and give you your pair just now.
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