V2V wrote:Well I think he gets to choose anyway..
Exactly, that's why you should be as far away as you can. If he can choose from off his wagon, then it doesn't matter, but I'd rather not take the chance.
Flynn wrote:When I say I don't like your vote, I mean I think it was very scummy. I mean yeah I guess if MoI dies, you die. So I guess it's not terrible, but I'd rather actually lynch scum today than MoI.
Lynching MoI (from your perspective) would kill me (Who you just said voted 'scummy' so... I'm guessing you have some notion as to my alignment.) Add in MoI's recent actions and from any town's perspective lynching MoI gives a potential two chances to take out scum. Him, or if we're wrong, me. Lynching anyone else only gives us one. It's a no brainier really.
Flynn wrote:1) The vote analysis section is all smoke and mirrors. It SCREAMS of confirmation bias. This isn't the only scenario that makes sense and you know it. For example MoI could be a town vengeful who's wagon died when he claimed and scum split themselves between the pizza and pappums wagons until townie fate jumped back onto MoI. Basically why is the version you presented make any more sense than what I just said?
It doesn't, I never said it did. But your version doesn't explain his actions just now, mine does.
Flynn wrote:2) Setup spec is bullshit. First of all, your reasoning that a 'good' comedian wouldn't bring others down with him is terribly flawed. Why do town comedians have to be nice people and not take people down with them? I mean my comedian isn't exactly someone I'd want to have lunch with, if you know what I mean.
Setup speculation in a theme game is never bullshit. It's a viable tool to use and to excuse it as 'bullshit' is a dumb move. Now, you presented an argument, so please take no offense to this. I'm just stating a point.
As to your argument, good comedians don't have to be nice guys, but they wouldn't take others down with them. When you put 'real life' characters in a situation like this (a good vs. evil game) this is a statistic that would qualify someone for the evil side. And being a prick (aka someone you wouldn't have lunch with) doesn't equate to taking someone out with you. This is a team orriented game regardless of how anyone sees it. The comedians that purposefully heckle the others would not be on the 'town' team. So, a 'vengeful' is not the type of power role I expect to see.
Add in the presence of a claimed vig and you're saying the town has two killing roles? Both setup and theme suggest MoI is likely lying.
My speculation may not always be 'right' but it's never 'bullshit'... It's one of the few things I actually do good.
Flynn wrote:3) "Even if MoI isn't scum at least we get another flip. WIN WIN! *winkwinknudgenudge*"
This would only be a valid 'point' from you if MoI wasn't so likely to flip scum. I'm not saying this is a reason on it's own to lynch him, merely stating that the small percentage that MoI is scum is offset.
Lynch wrote:So yeah, these reasons add up to nothing for me. Feels like scum making up reasons.
Then hammer MoI and see me hang for it. (or see me take a bullet) To argue you think I'm scum for this WHILE saying MoI should live is illogical.
finally, not as useless.