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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:32 am
by ArcAngel9
What a good news. i love the team instincts of this game.
I ll join the wagon
VOTE: the trollie

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:33 am
by Bitmap
ArcAngel9 wrote:What a good news. i love the team instincts of this game.
I ll join the wagon
VOTE: the trollie

Wrong wagon. Vote Nacho.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:48 am
by Maestro
Votecount would be lovely.

Also, I can ask during the Day, so I was hoping to get it done today if people need/want any information I might be able to get. Looks like general consensus is to ask what/how many antiTown factions there are. Does anyone have better suggestions? Also, I would recommend either Vig or Lynch one out of Bitmap/Lurker at some point, since one is living up to his name and there's definitely Scum somewhere among them.

Then, if you hit the Miller, 1 antiTown down 1 Scum to go after that. Reading over reasons for Nacho wagon now...

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:53 am
by TheTrollie
Maenara wrote:You have a scum-read on Trollie? Impressive.

The point is, we all know that Trollie is scummy scum, even if he's not admitting it, so we don't need to lynch him right now. Chk has no reason to lie as town, so either he or Nacho is scum. If we have a vig shoot Trollie, and we lynch Nacho, we've got a 50% to be rid of 3 scum by the time day 3 starts.

I dislike this now too. First of all, the "even if he's not admitting it" is incredibly forced language. Moreover, she criticizes NC for calling me scum, but no one else, even though a lot of ppl have just been copying that sentiment (even herself below):
Maenara wrote:Trollie is scum, and will stay that way, as has been said forever. But he can be lynched tomorrow. If Nacho is scum, which he probably is, unless Chk has a meta as lyncher (Does he?), then the last of scum is probably to be found amongst the people who haven't said much - Venmar is just about confirmed by the way Trollie is focusing on him, and nobody else, amongst those who have said anything, seems even remotely scummy.

VOTE: Nachomamma


Also, I tunnel as town. Deal with it.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:01 am
by MattP
Maenara wrote:You have a scum-read on Trollie? Impressive.

The point is, we all know that Trollie is scummy scum, even if he's not admitting it, so we don't need to lynch him right now. Chk has no reason to lie as town, so either he or Nacho is scum. If we have a vig shoot Trollie, and we lynch Nacho, we've got a 50% to be rid of 3 scum by the time day 3 starts.

HOW DO YOU MAKE POSTS LIKE THIS AND NOT REALIZE HOW BAD THEY SOUND???

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:02 am
by Bitmap
Maestro wrote:Votecount would be lovely.

Also, I can ask during the Day, so I was hoping to get it done today if people need/want any information I might be able to get.
Looks like general consensus is to ask what/how many antiTown factions there are.
Does anyone have better suggestions? Also, I would recommend either Vig or Lynch one out of Bitmap/Lurker at some point, since one is living up to his name and there's definitely Scum somewhere among them.

Then, if you hit the Miller, 1 antiTown down 1 Scum to go after that. Reading over reasons for Nacho wagon now...


Do that. Then report back.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:10 am
by Maenara
MattP wrote:
HOW DO YOU MAKE POSTS LIKE THIS AND NOT REALIZE HOW BAD THEY SOUND???


By having fuck all to work with? I just about never say 'nuff in my games, which I'm trying to fix, but I can't find much to do but stating the obvious. Trollie is scum, yay. Nacho or Chk are scum with 95% probability, yay. Just about everyone who's actually bothered to say something looks like town, so the rest must be amongst the lurkers, yay. 'twas either this or hunkerering down until I get prodded, which, frankly, I did enough in my last game.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:11 am
by Bitmap
I think Mae is town.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:11 am
by ArcAngel9
Bitmap wrote:
ArcAngel9 wrote:What a good news. i love the team instincts of this game.
I ll join the wagon
VOTE: the trollie

Wrong wagon. Vote Nacho.


where is the vote tally...
UNVOTE

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:13 am
by MattP
Maenara wrote:
MattP wrote:
HOW DO YOU MAKE POSTS LIKE THIS AND NOT REALIZE HOW BAD THEY SOUND???


By having fuck all to work with? I just about never say 'nuff in my games, which I'm trying to fix, but I can't find much to do but stating the obvious. Trollie is scum, yay. Nacho or Chk are scum with 95% probability, yay. Just about everyone who's actually bothered to say something looks like town, so the rest must be amongst the lurkers, yay. 'twas either this or hunkerering down until I get prodded, which, frankly, I did enough in my last game.


You just stated that in order to look the town part you'd have to spend more time on your posts

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:15 am
by Voidedmafia
Maestro wrote:I'm a Town Oracle

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chkflip wrote:I think a better way to word it (as to include an SK) is "how many anti-town factions are there?"

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Nero Cain wrote:This is NOT what happened. Bitmap voted for Tam and then FOSed Matt and Vemar. Why would Mehdi care about a bunch of RVS type votes? But the slot was scum so it was maybe budding Matt, Vemar and Tam a tad.

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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:19 am
by Bitmap
So uhh, I think I should claim the second part of my roleish? I'm the double voter. And I know that if you CC me, you're scum.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:20 am
by Bitmap
It's a conditional double voter ability. Basically, if I reach >= 20 posts within the first 7 pages of each day, I get double voting powers for the rest of the day. This part was inspired due to my activeness in Marathon games and how I love quick and speedy games. And yes, I do have double voter ability today.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:22 am
by Maenara
MattP wrote:You just stated that in order to look the town part you'd have to spend more time on your posts


I mean, you're right, in a way, but... Well, frack, it's just hard to solve by throwing more time at it, when I don't know what to do with said time, y'know? Both my newbie games were as scum, so the lessons learned there never really applied, and since then, I've been, uh, less than stellar, all in all - Most of my time has been spent looking scummy, and then either chasing the wrong target or spending all my time defending myself. I literally do not see what I should do here: From my PoV, we've got two scum we can reasonably safely lynch, and once we're done with those two, we can
then
start looking at relative tells or whatever the term is. I mean, okay, fair enough, typing this, I realize that I can probably go back and look over Trollie's posts for tells, because we're virtually guaranteed to see him flip scum, and I should probably do the same with Nacho, so I guess I'll actually go do that. But... I don't even know where I was going with this post. I'll just, uh, hit submit and hope it'll be taken as a towntell, which I guess it won't, after I've said this, but seriously fuck this.

...

I'll go re-read Trollie's posts. That should be masochistic enough.

P-EDIT: Also, Nacho is scum because Chk claims to know this. One of them pretty much has to be scum.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:24 am
by Nero Cain
Voidedmafia wrote:
Nero Cain wrote:This is NOT what happened. Bitmap voted for Tam and then FOSed Matt and Vemar. Why would Mehdi care about a bunch of RVS type votes? But the slot was scum so it was maybe budding Matt, Vemar and Tam a tad.

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The hell? Mehdi is flipped scum so there's no way that Mehdi's push on Bit was townie.

Bit says lurker is scum.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:29 am
by Bitmap
Nero Cain wrote:
Bit says lurker is scum.


No, fuck. God fucking damnit, I'm getting nightkilled by saying this. Lurker is confirmed town. I'm not actually town but I'm not scum either. I'm a Survivor with a role modifier that I will not disclose.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:31 am
by Bitmap
Maestro wrote:I'm a Town Oracle, and since I can't, for my life, think of anything good to use my power on other than what I already did, I'm claiming ans asking for opinions. I have the ability (at any time) to ask 2 questions of the Moderator about the setup of the game, and these questions can't pertain to specific people - they have to be about the overall setup.
I asked how many Millers of any type are in the game - Monkey answered back that there is one.
Flavor was something about me utilizing mechanics to my advantage and sometimes focusing on setups...which I don't entirely agree with when it comes to my personal meta but that's neither here nor there.

What should my second question about the setup be? Obviously it should be something that we can word well to glean as much information and use heavily to our advantage, and I'd prefer it not to be about Lurker/Bitmap, since one of them is confirmed Scum.


THANKS ASSHOLE.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:34 am
by Nero Cain
Bitmap wrote:Lurker is confirmed town. I'm not actually town but I'm not scum either. I'm a Survivor with a role modifier that I will not disclose.

Well you are 'cause scum is catch all phrase so if your telling the truth then yeah Lurker is conf town.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:35 am
by Bitmap
Nero Cain wrote:
Bitmap wrote:Lurker is confirmed town. I'm not actually town but I'm not scum either. I'm a Survivor with a role modifier that I will not disclose.

Well you are 'cause scum is catch all phrase so if your telling the truth then yeah Lurker is conf town.

Yeah cause I'm mafia because of that push on Medhi day 1? Get real.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:36 am
by Maestro
Oh wow, yeah Bitmap is Scum guys. Why you angry Bitmap?
VOTE: Bitmap

MY MOST RECENT PM TO ZHE MOD:
"Exactly how many antiTown or nonTown or independently/self-aligned factions are there in this game's setup?"

I will report back with the answer as soon as I get it, nobody let anybody get to L-1 lest Scum quickhammer and I die without giving an answer to you all.

P-Edit: Oh STFU Bitmap, I've hardbussed my Scum PR partner before on D1, and I did rather well for it.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:38 am
by Bitmap
Maestro wrote:Oh wow, yeah Bitmap is Scum guys. Why you angry Bitmap?
VOTE: Bitmap

MY MOST RECENT PM TO ZHE MOD:
"Exactly how many antiTown or nonTown or independently/self-aligned factions are there in this game's setup?"

I will report back with the answer as soon as I get it, nobody let anybody get to L-1 lest Scum quickhammer and I die without giving an answer to you all.

P-Edit: Oh STFU Bitmap, I've hardbussed my Scum PR partner before on D1, and I did rather well for it.


Cause as scum, I would totally claim that. Lol.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:39 am
by Nero Cain
.............................

you are claiming 3rd party. Scum is anything that's not town therefore you are not town...you know what just troll away.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:39 am
by Venmar
I'm confused, Bitmap if Miller is still part of your role, then you would apply to Maestro's questions wouldn't you?

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:39 am
by Maestro
Maestro wrote:MY MOST RECENT PM TO ZHE MOD:
"Exactly how many antiTown or nonTown or independently/self-aligned factions are there in this game's setup?"

I ALREADY HAVE MY ANSWER, MONKEY WAS SUPER-FAST.

He says there are only two "antiTown or nonTown or independently/self-aligned factions", so we must have Scum and Bitmap - whatever the fuck Bitmap is. That means that he's probably not a Survivor though, since a single self-aligned player in this game would be amazingly hard-pressed to do anything more than survive the first couple of Days. Perhaps with a single killing team/role it does make a little sense balance-wise, but I think it much more likely Bitmap needs to go. Survivor my ass, and if so, still not Town.

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:40 am
by Bitmap
Venmar wrote:I'm confused, Bitmap if Miller is still part of your role, then you would apply to Maestro's questions wouldn't you?


I'm not miller.

Nero Cain wrote:.............................

you are claiming 3rd party. Scum is anything that's not town therefore you are not town...you know what just troll away.


Whatevs.