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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:32 am
by ArcAngel9
Town SuperSaint is someone gains a vengeful kill upon their lynch, Example in my case, the person who hammers me dies with me.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:38 am
by ChannelDelibird
Or we can keep both claimed masons around and, if they're town, scum will be forced to nightkill them at some point thereby confirming them and keeping any other potential power roles away from the nightkill. There is no reason to voluntarily kill one of our two claimed masons on Day 1 just to satisfy your own paranoia - it doesn't mean we're writing them off as confirmed town now, it just means that it's better to look elsewhere at this point. We will come back to them if they don't start dying but we should be trying to kill scum instead.

Ghostlin is going to hammer you whether or not you are telling the truth (which I doubt - you still haven't answered me when I asked how your behaviour as been intended to help the town) and, for my sanity's sake, can we hurry up about that?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:39 am
by Ghostlin
In post 550, ArcAngel9 wrote:Town SuperSaint is someone gains a vengeful kill upon their lynch, Example in my case, the person who hammers me dies with me.
You are specifically a
super saint
, yes? Not a
vengeful townie
, which a super saint is technically a sub-class of.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Super_saint

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:44 am
by ArcAngel9
Am sorry i didn't really understand your question. Explain it...
and if you're town, take a look at my wagon, see how many oppurtunist piece of shits gotten into it with the lamest reasons in the world. "Ghostlin is willing to hammer me atm" that makes me read him as town more becuz a scum would what is my alignment and wouldn't dare to comeforward this quickly at least i knew that for certain. Imagine if Ghostilin is town, and Town will not only be loosing him but also me and also with the night kill..... This game is going to be in really bad shape.

I have admitted that i have been a lousy player but that doesn't prove me as scum. There is no real case any has got to prove me as scum other than lurking which is an universal and the only weapon for scum to use to start a innocent town wagon. I don't know who hard it is for anyone to see something like that..... Derps Derps.. this town has full of derps!!!

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:45 am
by RachMarie
Percy being a Supersaint is totally not in tune with the books

Percy was such an ass and a brown nose too .

I would think it would be a better match with say Hermione

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:45 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 552, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 550, ArcAngel9 wrote:Town SuperSaint is someone gains a vengeful kill upon their lynch, Example in my case, the person who hammers me dies with me.
You are specifically a
super saint
, yes? Not a
vengeful townie
, which a super saint is technically a sub-class of.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Super_saint
My role PM clearly indicates i am "Percy Weasly" and the TOWN SuperSaint. this setup makes total sense becuz Percy is often misread by people.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:47 am
by ArcAngel9
In post 554, RachMarie wrote:Percy being a Supersaint is totally not in tune with the books

Percy was such an ass and a brown nose too .

I would think it would be a better match with say Hermione
Percy is not the villan of the books Rach, Get that...
Do you think MOD would use Percy role for mafia out of Voldemort? Bellatrix, Malfoy, Peter, crab, goyal and instead of ton more other Death eaters? seriousy? do you know even the theme??

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:49 am
by Ghostlin
Someone put AA at L-1 so I can test out her [line]fake[/line]claim by hammering? I feel she's scummy enough to end the day on, and if it clears me and gives Town more information with my flip, I'll test it out.

AA, Town/Scum list, please?

Town:
Mhork
Rach
Amrun
CDB
Saint

Scum:
Angel
Letters
Fuzzy (weak)

Everyone else is null. I've posted this presuming one of you will put Angel back at L-1. Angel, I recommend you make a similar list.

P-EDIT: Seriously, I don't return the read. You lurk, do nothing and essentially claim a role that's utterly designed for scum not to hammer you and designed to make Towns back off. You then dare a Mason to hammer you when saying it's sub-optimal to kill a single mason is an understatement.

Yes, Town does need to know if the Masons are a bluff or not sooner or later. Wasting the first lynch of the game is NOT THE WAY TO DO IT.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:49 am
by RachMarie
Arc chill girl

I did not say Percy was scumz I just said he aint all that bah

Hes a useless git who makes his mom cry bah

And brown noses with the Ministry and turns his back on family

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:50 am
by Ghostlin
In post 554, RachMarie wrote:Percy being a Supersaint is totally not in tune with the books

Percy was such an ass and a brown nose too .

I would think it would be a better match with say Hermione
Also, this, although I
despise
setup speculation.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:02 pm
by Ghostlin
In post 556, ArcAngel9 wrote:Percy is not the villain of the books Rach, Get that...
Do you think MOD would use Percy role for mafia out of Voldemort? (1) Bellatrix (2), Malfoy(3), Peter (4), crabbe(3), Goyle(3) and instead of ton more other Death eaters? (5) seriously? do you know even the theme?? (6)
1) Existence of fake claims.
2) Bellatrix isn't even mentioned until book 3. While I hate to setup speculation this, I don't think Nexus would pull non-Book 1 characters in a theme not about book one.
3) These are possible. Although read reason 1. (Yes, I fixed her spelling of the names, it was giving me fits)
4) Peter isn't even Peter until book 3. He's Scabbers, an unsuspected family pet at this time. (Which doesn't make him IMpossible, but I'm going to stop there)
5) Most of which aren't even mentioned until Books 3-5, and this is a game about Book 1.
6) Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone was the first book. JK Rowlings publishers across the pond changed it to Sorcerer's Stone because they had doubts the US folks knew what the Philosopher's Stone was. (It's the alchemical agent originally used to transmute lead into gold.)

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:04 pm
by Amrun
Percy makes no sense at all as a super saint. Ridic. Kill it now.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:06 pm
by Amrun
I think I'm supposed to vote so Ghostlin can hammer. Please confirm so i can do that.

I don't see why letters can't hammer but enough people suspect Ghostlin it's probably just better to not fight this, since I have no reasoning beyond "Ghostlin has said some things that I was thinking and feels town."

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:06 pm
by Ghostlin
In post 561, Amrun wrote:Percy makes no sense at all as a super saint. Ridic. Kill it now.
Vote for her and I'll hammer. I was on and had to get off. She's at L-2 at the moment.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:11 pm
by RachMarie
In book one I could see Quirrel who is possessed by Voldemort obviously, Snape is possible too, he is rather suspicious in most of the books and it really is not until book 7 that we finally see him cleared. Malfoy and his buddies Crabbe and Goyle also good choices. There really are not a lot of villains in Book 1.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:12 pm
by RachMarie
Go for it

I just don't buy it seems fake and her paranoia is too.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:16 pm
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
In post 559, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 554, RachMarie wrote:Percy being a Supersaint is totally not in tune with the books

Percy was such an ass and a brown nose too .

I would think it would be a better match with say Hermione
Also, this, although I
despise
setup speculation.
I hate setup spec as well, but note that Percy became an ass in the later books, not the first one. He was decent in the first one.
In post 533, ArcAngel9 wrote:you idoits.. fine i admit i didn't read the game becuz i have been busy....
I am claiming. I am town super saint. the person who hammers me dies with me..

Lmork, you just jumped into wagon for no reason, Explain me how are you confirmed town... If really think i am scum, why don't you hammer me and check out by your self...
Confirmed by rach, lol. Scum is no way taking that gambit, because to lynch one and find scum means we have two scum. So Mhork and Rach are town.
In post 553, ArcAngel9 wrote: I have admitted that i have been a lousy player but that doesn't prove me as scum.
The reason is because of your meta.

Towny
Rach/Mhork
Amrun
Channel
Jake

High Null
BRO
p_a
Saint

Low Null
Deas
fuzzy

Scummy
AA
ghostlin
ArcAngel9 wrote: IF YOU LYNCH OF THE CLAIMED MASON, RACH OR LMORK, IT WILL CONFIRM THAT AT LEAST ONE OF THEM IS TOWN. THERE ARE WILL BE MANY BENEFITS TO KNOW IF SOMEONE IS CONFIRMED TOWN. .
No. At some point they will be confirmed anyway.

Also, claiming super saint is an interesting claim. I've never played with before but it sounds to me like a claim to get out of being lynched (the person that hammers dies)

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:18 pm
by Ghostlin
In post 562, Amrun wrote:I think I'm supposed to vote so Ghostlin can hammer. Please confirm so i can do that.

I don't see why letters can't hammer but enough people suspect Ghostlin it's probably just better to not fight this, since I have no reasoning beyond "Ghostlin has said some things that I was thinking and feels town."
Confirm that someone not on the wagon needs to jump on so I can hammer.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:19 pm
by Ghostlin
Also, TMT's scum list makes me LOL considering if AA is telling the truth, both of his scum reads will be dead soon.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:24 pm
by RachMarie
I saw that too lol

But hey hes fairly new and its Day 1 so yeah much harder to peg down the full scum team.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:34 pm
by Ghostlin
In post 566, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:I hate setup spec as well, but note that Percy became an ass in the later books, not the first one. He was decent in the first one.
He was a bit of a git who was a more than a bit drunk on his new found power (I think he was either Head Boy or Prefect in this book) and responsibility. Granted, he didn't do what Rach mentioned, but the fact that Percy's prob-town is not my problem with this scenario.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:38 pm
by RachMarie
In book 1 he was Prefect and an ass. Also definitely a brown noser even early on that shows up.

None of his brothers liked him much.

He was not Head Boy til later.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:54 pm
by Lord Mhork
hah. I'm not hammering that thing. it wouldn't help the town at all.

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:57 pm
by Ghostlin
In post 572, Lord Mhork wrote:hah. I'm not hammering that thing. it wouldn't help the town at all.
Will you get it to L-1 so I can hammer?

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:17 pm
by ArcAngel9
In post 572, Lord Mhork wrote:hah. I'm not hammering that thing. it wouldn't help the town at all.
scared??