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muffin

so can i intepret your scumreads as

TD > Bro >Rach?


or is there an order?

just checking

You can if you want.

ok thats about it

i'll find a way to talk to varsoon when he gets on so we can prevent hydra dissonance etc i've already shot him a pm


anyway if you have any more questions feel free to ask as long as you're not expecting a terribly long answer i can answer them briefly

muffin is town

re: TD vote i can take it off if you want but i don't really see the point/need/significance

I have returned.
To get muffinman on the same page as me/Metal Sonic, here's how it is:
I believe TD is scum.
-The speed of his wagon might be scummy in itself, but now town has wagon analysis to use, so it ultimately led town out of RVS.
-His response to pressure was to flail and disengage. I don't like this.
-He's been largely absent from the thread and it feels like he's treading lightly. He hasn't made any dangerous plays, which speaks to Scum-TD more than town-TD for me. An innocent man doesn't hold his hand so close to his chest or start to sweat when he's put on the chopping block. He plays the game.

Metal Sonic is keeping OUR vote there because he trusts my judgment and we haven't gotten to talk extensively in a hydra chat/Skype yet. He's clearly a bit conflicted about it, and is reading TD as townier than I am, but it is what it is.

On that note, catching up with the thread:
Venmar's inarticulate push of the TD wagon denies town info and time and feels -wrong-.
Nacho came in. Nacho, when you've got some time, I want to talk.
Replacements, please post. Nacho's catchup is a good model for this. I will hold you accountable for catching up. Nothing annoys me more than parroty-shitty-town that hasn't caught up. It annoyed me in 512 when I was scum, and it annoys me here, too.
TrustFund, I don't like your approach of 'townreading' people. It's an easy-peasy scum tactic. I want you to elaborate on your scum reads and give post-analysis for why those slots are scum. Your play so far makes me sour.
Everyone who thinks Varsoon who is logical is Varsoon who is scum clearly needs to refresh their notions of how I play. Look at games since Xenoblade, or, y'know, look at my play solely in this game and stop relying on something so flimsy as meta. If you have learned anything in playing with me, you've learned I can control my rhetoric and that I review my posts before hitting enter in just about every game.

I still support my TD vote.
I'll talk to MS about it, P-Edit shows he's still conflicted.

-V

As another note, I will try to sign all of my posts, and mine are usually much more long-winded and adherent to proper grammatical form.
This is how you can distinguish between Metal's thoughts and my own.
Sure, we'll think different things, but that dissonance will always be clear-cut, given our approach to signing.

-V

idk man. The last time I read your "logics" it made me facepalm a lot.

I can also pretend to be Varsoon like this. But usually, I wouldn't. I am perfectly capable of grammatical speech.



-MS

varsoon you know that for us to talk on skype you actually have to get online? yeah.

anyway I have to go for the night, take over


we're good in that we got 24/7 covered

this is fun

Yeah, FTL is scum.

Nacho next time you are itt what are your thoughts about BRO?

In post 559, notscience wrote:Yeah, FTL is scum.

Good articulation, 10/10, nom'd for best play of the game.

Let me do my thing.

I'm glad that SoS defers to Nacho as the default town-voice here. Why not ask what everyone thinks of BRO?
I think the lack of text-walls from BRO is unsettling, but I'm usually used to more activity from him. BRO's contributions so far haven't pinged for me, but I'm skeptical of him.

-V

Hi Nacho

In post 556, Sound of Silence wrote:idk man. The last time I read your "logics" it made me facepalm a lot.

Disclaimer: I'm going to write a lot that doesn't make sense. Just because I do make sense sometimes doesn't mean anything, it's just a moment of lucidity.

-V

Muffins, you are either misrepping hard or incapable of actually reading. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here. Mac is scum for a number of reasons, the slip is just one of them, and not even the primary one really.

When I have reads to the point I can start doing elimination studies, I'll post all my reads, till then you just get what I feel like putting out there.

And yes, NS, FTL is scum, glad you could join the rest of us.

In post 564, TiphaineDeath wrote:Muffins, you are either misrepping hard or incapable of actually reading. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here. Mac is scum for a number of reasons, the slip is just one of them, and not even the primary one really.

When I have reads to the point I can start doing elimination studies, I'll post all my reads, till then you just get what I feel like putting out there.

And yes, NS, FTL is scum, glad you could join the rest of us.

Quote the reasons why mac is scum. I keep seeing you writing that "Mac is scum, mac slipped."
Show us where and why Mac is scum.

I'm glad that you've got awesome reasons for why I'm scum, too.
I'd like to challenge you to articulate -why-, but that doesn't seem to be your style.
TD, you butt-blasted because I voted on you and antagonized your wagon to this point and I'm one of the only opponents you have that seriously is holding onto his vote for explained reasons?

In post 561, Faster Than Light wrote:

In post 559, notscience wrote:Yeah, FTL is scum.

Good articulation, 10/10, nom'd for best play of the game.

Let me do my thing.

I'm glad that SoS defers to Nacho as the default town-voice here. Why not ask what everyone thinks of BRO?
I think the lack of text-walls from BRO is unsettling, but I'm usually used to more activity from him. BRO's contributions so far haven't pinged for me, but I'm skeptical of him.

-V

I'm refining two reads with that line of questionig. Kindly stay out of my light.

In post 285, BROseidon wrote:And the votes I'm thinking are the potential scum-votes on the TD wagon are Muffin, Mac, Ghost (++ to chances if Macscum), TF).

Are you done thinking yet?

I am now going to take a deep breath and be useful instead of yelling at you, which was my gut reaction to that horrible post.

Reason the first mac is scum, Misrep, see posts 150 and 153 i.e running away. Post 176 i.e go cry and post 208 i.e "that was a push."

Reason the second mac is scum, trying to turn his own rhetorical's in to real questions after realizing that what he had told me to do didn't exist. See posts 153 and 164 i.e answering questions. (This was the slip that we are talking about.) He thought people had been asking me questions that he could make me look bad and apply more pressure for not answering, only they hadn't.

Reason the third mac is scum, cognitive dissonance. I clearly, very motherfucking clearly was not "flirting with the idea but waiting for someone else to take the initiative" I have spelled out at least once why there is literally not possible way for an intelligent, reasoning, and reading individual to have thought this. See post 217 from mac and the first half of post 385 from me.

Reason the fourth mac is scum, when confronted with evidence that debunks his reasons for being on a wagon, his response is not. "Ok, maybe I should vote someone else." or "Ok, but I have all this other evidence that says I should still be here." it's "I've justified my place on this wagon already." see post 245

I'll get one of these on FTL next. For a condensed version on trustfund, no I'm not going to enlarge it, please see post 385.

Oh and btw ftl, the last sentence in your last post isn't a question, doesn't have a question mark, and doesn't really make sense, please retry that one.

ye gods

Sorry about that Mollie its more confusion than anything else. This game totally exploded faster than I thought it would. Going to look at some ISOs

FTR anyone who has ever played with me knows I get suspicious of fast wagons and quick lynches.

About time you got here Nacho

Wait Andy is playing too? where is he?

grumble grumble I will take some time to get a handle on this game

Could someone let me know who the heads of the hydrae are?

Other than B n B I know that one is Mollie and Jiffy.

We are GiF and fferyllt.

TrustFund is Cabd and Syr

FTL is metal sonic and Varsoon

thank you

I have decided that this needs to die.

Also Mac is town, and FTL is likely town, too.

When I feel like it, I may wall you into oblivion to show my thoughts on why both of them are likely town, but the time for that is not now.