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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:44 pm

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I have to agree with Ziliu there, there is a possiblity that at least one kill was blocked last night with a Doc protect on Ziliu. But with ziliu getting innocent results on EnderX I can't see scum being TOO concerned about getting rid of him.

I am pretty much inclined to vote for either bethelmark of gin fizz at this time.

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Gin Fizz - 2 - (Harry_Potter, ziliu)

Not Voting - 4 - (starkmoon, Gin Fizz, neongrey, bethelmark)

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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:01 am

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@Gin- so you're saying you got your 1 shot vig kill 2 nights ago... that would be night 1. So all you had to do was survive day 1? I don't buy it. The timing just doesn't make sense. Why make a player wait 1 day to gain an ability like 1-shot vig? BTW, if I had a killing role you'd have been dead last night as I targetted you and followed you to EnderX's house. If I were scum faking a claim, I wouldn't have known that starkmoon did nothing on the night I followed her. Consequently, I consider myself a proven tracker.
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:38 pm

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I am beginning to feel that this day is going to take forever and that we're going to eventually lynch Gin anyhow. :?
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2006 7:44 am

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sounds about right
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:50 pm

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I have a bad feeling about lynching him, but it's absolutely nothing more than a feeling, and I've no problem with going forward on that particular move.
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:56 pm

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I suggest we request a
prod for Gin Fizz
and give him 48 hours to post something, then if nothing is posted, we lynch him.
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:19 am

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if not for ziliu's logic regarding the kill-count i would be sorely tempted to vote harry potter now for the above post. he does seem somewhat overly eager to lynch gin fizz, even with the tracking result he gave us
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:56 am

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I am only eager to lynch Gin becuase...

1. I know for a fact that he was at Ender's house last night.
2. Ender is dead.
3. Ender seems to have been targetted by 2 kills.
4. Two people have claimed to target Ender last night.
5. Of the two people, Gin has the less believable role claim.
6. He has disappeared again while he is the sole topic of discussion.
7. If I am wrong (microscopic chance) then we lynch the other killer tomorrow and win anyway.


Less logical to you guys but still part of my thinking...

me- I know I am a townie

starkmoon- I believe is cleared due to not doing anything on a night when the SK killed before.

neongrey- I believe her claim of Igor being a doc and a doc has not been killed and she has not been counter claimed.

zilliu- Nobby Nobs is a noteworthy character and he claimed rather early along with making sense as a naive cop.

Bethelmark- Brick would make a good choice as vig or SK depending on what part of the story you look at. In the book though, he never actually killed anyone. Being a troll, he would most certainly kill by bashing, but I would expect Sgt. Detritus to be the vig in this game. With that deviation, he would be my second choice as SK.

Gin Fizz- A.E. Pessimal is an accountant who became a member of the watch and is only noteworthy for trying to BITE a troll in battle. In what way, shape, or form would he gain the ability to BASH opponents?? Especially when EVERYTHING else in this game has been VERY MUCH in tune with flavor? The longer he makes us wait for his answer, the more I think he is trying frantically to either make up something or out wait us.
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:11 pm

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Gin Fizz has been prodded. I apologise for the laziness in vote counts. I'll try to make up for that soon.
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:11 pm

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Not Nobbs, Nobbs is the dead one, and would make a very bad naive cop. :P
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:11 pm

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It seems like the problem is we can't be sure that Harry_Potter isn't the SK, but we have only two lynches left. But here's a plan:

Assumption: There is only one anti-town left, an SK.

Cleared people from a neutral perspective.
ziliu: Mason cleared.
neongrey: Only claimed protective role in a game with a shortage of kills some nights.
starkmoon: cleared by tracker as doing nothing night one. I would expect an SK to have a night-action. (And so if starkmoon were scum, Harry_Potter would have to be lying scum too, which contradicts the above assumption.)

So left are Gin Fizz, bethelmark and Harry_Potter. The problem is that we only have two lynches, but there is a solution to that:

We lynch Gin Fizz today. In case the game is not over, one of bethelmark and Harry_Potter must be scum. But what we can do is we have bethelmark promise he'll vig Harry_Potter tonight and have neongrey protect somebody else than Harry. Then, if Harry_potter is the SK, we would have won by dawn.
If Harry_Potter is dead when day dawns and we haven't won, or in case Harry_Potter doesn't die, it must mean bethelmark is lying scum, and we lynch him for the win.

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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:03 am

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I guess purely in terms of the numbers, that'd work...
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:37 am

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works for me... do we wait on bethelmark oking it too, then vote?
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Sun Jun 18, 2006 3:52 pm

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As much as I hate the idea of being vigged, I guess that would work. (If ziliu is the scum, I'm nominating him for a scummie.)
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:03 pm

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Too bad I won't get a scummy then. :( Anyway, I don't think I would really have deserved one if I were the SK, I mean, if that was the case, the only thing that kept me alive would have been that I were is a split masonry with Lloyd, which isn't really my accomplishment. :cry:

So, but yeah, let's wait for bethelmark to agree with vigging Harry, and then go on for the lynch.

Oh, and Harry_Potter, if you're really so sure Gin Fizz is the remaining scum, just so you know, if he is, you're not gonna get vigged. It's fair game, I'd say, cause if you're wrong about Gin Fizz, we vig you for being wrong about him. :lol:
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:16 am

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Well, there seems to be little point in responding to the prod, but here I am after a weekend away.

I sure hope ziliu is right in his assumptions about who's possibly the remaining bad guy; if it's ziliu himself, I suspect we're going to lose no matter what happens.

Just for the record, I'll
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:51 am

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stilll here, waiting for bethelmark
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:37 am

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I'm fine with the plan.

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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:49 am

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unvote, vote bethelmark
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:51 am

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unvote, vote Gin Fizz


Oops, never mind that, misread your restriction. :oops:
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:56 am

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ziliu wrote:
unvote, vote Gin Fizz


Oops, never mind that, misread your restriction. :oops:
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:57 am

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Yeah, all the alarm clocks in my head went wild, I thought for some reason that you said you couldn't vote after using your vig ability. Then, after I made the first post, I actually went back to check where you said that, and only then discovered I remembered it wrong.
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:53 pm

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so starkmoon or neon just needs to hammer this
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:38 am

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I'm going to be away from tomorrow, June 21, to Friday, June 30. Sorry for any inconvenience. I will be PMing VitaminR to see if it is possible to send my target early. If so, I will be vigging Harry_Potter.
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:47 pm

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Sorry, didn't get a reply notification.

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