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prodded. Will post things when I get back from le gym, but I still think Imperium is the right choice for HoH.

Key

We are not lynching with our votes, we are picking who will be HoH. At least read the OP of the game you are playing please...

i did. What happened to Jake being HOH? I don't want to make that mistake again.

Obviously the scum have a day vig I already speculated on that one and gave an example of a game where I was scum and we had a 2 shot day vig. HD was the one with that role. Johnny and I were goons. It was a perfect scum win. I can post the link iffen anyone wants.

no thanks. But there's flaw in that theory. He was evicted at the point where he would be HOH. If I'm correct, then he had the right number of votes to be HOH.

Plurality votes count since a no vote is not possible in this setup. So even though he did not have the full majority, he would have been HoH anyways.

I would think being able to vig twice in the same day would make it unbalanced though? And most likely for balance its an X shot so they would have to be careful who they shoot.

In post 516, Minions wrote:Rachmarie is a source of arguement amongst the heads, cos one of the minions is defending her closed minded and meta reliance approach to scumhunting while several others find her a likely liability if she is town. That debate is still ongoing so she remains null for the time being.

It sounds like you disagree. What exactly about RachMarie do you see as close minded? Disagreements like these (within a hydra) allow them to stay on the fence, and I usually find this scummy if there isn't a proper explanation.

In post 520, Titus wrote:

@Mod: All the votes for HoH have been reset? Was this deliberate?

VOTE: Jake from Rainbow Dash
I think if the resetting of the votes was deliberate, that suggests the scums don't want Jake as the HoH. I'm inclined to work against the scums.

If we assume that the reset/kill on Jake (duh, town would have no motive to kill obvtown Jake) is from scum, then Titus' "why did the votes get reset?" post suggests town. That's a pretty clear townslip. Same goes for keyblade, ew.

ugh, too many imperium vs bulba walls...

@Peacemaker: I know you aren't here anymore, but seriously? you knew about the setup coming in thats a pretty dumb reason to replace...

In post 549, Desperado wrote:

In post 546, Keybladewielder wrote:ok, care to give me a runthrough why Imperium is getting lynched?

Titus' may have been a townslip but KBW's comment is a special brand of stupid that doesn't look genuine at all.

Ok, I might be digging a hole for myself here but that's not a town slip for me. I am capable of faking ignorance. I'm not scum here but bad theories are bad. I'm the type of player, who if I am scum, will get caught by having plans that are much too grandiose.

KBW's is a special brand of stupid as his requires not knowing the setup or pretending not to. It's a null.

In post 557, ToastyToast wrote:

In post 516, Minions wrote:Rachmarie is a source of arguement amongst the heads, cos one of the minions is defending her closed minded and meta reliance approach to scumhunting while several others find her a likely liability if she is town. That debate is still ongoing so she remains null for the time being.

It sounds like you disagree. What exactly about RachMarie do you see as close minded? Disagreements like these (within a hydra) allow them to stay on the fence, and I usually find this scummy if there isn't a proper explanation.

In post 520, Titus wrote:

@Mod: All the votes for HoH have been reset? Was this deliberate?

VOTE: Jake from Rainbow Dash
I think if the resetting of the votes was deliberate, that suggests the scums don't want Jake as the HoH. I'm inclined to work against the scums.

If we assume that the reset/kill on Jake (duh, town would have no motive to kill obvtown Jake) is from scum, then Titus' "why did the votes get reset?" post suggests town. That's a pretty clear townslip. Same goes for keyblade, ew.

ugh, too many imperium vs bulba walls...

@Peacemaker: I know you aren't here anymore, but seriously? you knew about the setup coming in thats a pretty dumb reason to replace...

In post 549, Desperado wrote:

In post 546, Keybladewielder wrote:ok, care to give me a runthrough why Imperium is getting lynched?

Well it all centred around one head not being a fan of her auto scum hand waving away of us because she can't apply meta to us, I personally think the reliance on meta rather than actually bothering to use I game play to read someone is a way of hiding as scum but one of us had made the point that her play isn't as bad as the rest if us were suggesting... But you will be happy to know that head has since been shown the door... I mean light, and we all agree she is scum. So add her to our list, I think we have three or four now, I will need to check where we are on the desp read but we certainly have bulba, gnomeo and rachmarie as three of the scum. Titus is the other one currently under debate.

~ jerry

in my defense; it looked like jake got lynched instead of becoming HOH. I thought he was gonna get HOH but he got lynched instead, or at least it looked like a lynch.

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Let's move it along people.

um.........

What are you talking about.

Minions

Can you give me any other reason why you think I am scum besides the fact I think you are and my frustration with not being able to get a meta read on you because of your own unwillingness to let us know who your heads are?

Clue: It is not just because I do not have a meta read on you that I think you are scum. I have other reasons duh.

In post 559, Titus wrote:Ok, I might be digging a hole for myself here but that's not a town slip for me. I am capable of faking ignorance. I'm not scum here but bad theories are bad. I'm the type of player, who if I am scum, will get caught by having plans that are much too grandiose.

KBW's is a special brand of stupid as his requires not knowing the setup or pretending not to. It's a null.

We're all capable of faking ignorance, but that post looks genuine to me. Call it gut if you will, but I don't think it was a manufactured response. The way in which you responded after realizing that Jake was gone confirms this to me.

I agree that KBW's is definitely more derpy/less intuitive of a town read, but I do think it gives the slot town points.

I'd like the Blackberry replacement to come in and give thoughts. I'm inclined to put up Gnomeo and that replacement at the moment, but waiting to talk with Tammy before that happens.

Ugh, this is one of those things I hate....

My schedule for this week is gonna be hectic, so starting tomorrow I'll be back on V/LA until Saturday.

What happened to Bulbazak read dood

^@Imperium

I know that nacho is rethinking that read. We haven't had a chance to talk yet, and I went to bed early last night so missed him when he tried to get ahold of me :/

In post 564, RachMarie wrote:Minions

Can you give me any other reason why you think I am scum besides the fact I think you are and my frustration with not being able to get a meta read on you because of your own unwillingness to let us know who your heads are?

Clue: It is not just because I do not have a meta read on you that I think you are scum. I have other reasons duh.

So lazy reads where you solely hide behind supposed meta on people and labelling a player scum cos you can't meta them isn't thought to think someone is scum? Interesting...

And what additional case do you have against us?

~ Doug

Yeah, this is the first time I've heard of other reasons why you called us scum.

Like that magical handwave that says "oh i dont know who they are, must be scum" is a legitimate scum tell? Anything else?

I would really like to know why Imperium changed his read on Bulba, his responses dont seem like theyre coming from a pro town perspective to me
~ Dave