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Disagree. That 'four protown looking players' post, to me, implied that those four players looked much of a muchness to you, to the extent that a re-read would be required to find anything especially incriminating.
Also, the vehemence with which you attack Yos' conduct vis-a-vis Battle Mage does not make it look like a minor suspicion to me.
Also, the vehemence with which you attack Yos' conduct vis-a-vis Battle Mage does not make it look like a minor suspicion to me.
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Um, dude, like THREE POSTS AGO you were attacking me for "never adressing your points for why BM was scum". And now you're attacking me for adressing your points? Granted, I would have MUCH RATHER had this discussion BEFORE you lynched a townie, but your and Dylan's early votes made that impossible.Mr Stoofer wrote:Isn't it easy to argue that someone is a Townie when the Mod has already revealed their alignment?
Anyway, do you realize how scummy you're sounding here, Stoofer? I attacked you because you overly hastily lynched a townie with for what I considered and still consider to be not very good reasons, and for refusing to explain exactally why you thought he was scummy even after he was hammered.
After I do that, you suddenly start attacking me, for really bad reasons; most of them boil down to you either still being mad at me for disgreeing with your policy lynch, or you being mad at me for daring to suspect you based on the way you acted during that day.
And by the way, it's frankly absurd that you claim you were "so angry at BM all day" and you're "never going to play with BM again" because he challanged someone the majority of the town didn't want him to challange? Really? BM's behavior was not anywhere near as distructive or anti-town as that of any number most pro-town players in MAD mafia or either bad idea mafia game. Do you never want to play with any of them either?
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
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Game Status: Cycle 4
Randomized Deadline to Challenge: 7/4/07 11:51 A.M.
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Deadline to Lynch: 23:59 7th of July
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That's true. It seems, in games like these, that it is meant for the "hard" players to all meet up in the end and slug it out, weeding the "easy" players on the way. In that case I'm a dead man to begin with. My best bet would be to attack one of the "easy" lynches, and hope that the "hard" lynches challenge each other tomorrow. In that case, if both Dean and me are innocent, the town has already lost.
I can't challenge mneme because he's gone, so he wouldn't be able to defend himself and provide us leads when he's gone.
The only possible challengees are Dean and VD. Since we are out to kill conservative, and I think VD is liberal, I have to against Dean.
I can't challenge mneme because he's gone, so he wouldn't be able to defend himself and provide us leads when he's gone.
The only possible challengees are Dean and VD. Since we are out to kill conservative, and I think VD is liberal, I have to against Dean.
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That dosn't really make sense, Albert.
If you think Dean is likely scum, challange Dean. If you think Mneme is likey scum, challange mneme. I can understand that you might not want to challange someone you think you'd lose to, no one wants to die, but if you are pro-town you should challange someone you think is likely scum, and be able to explain why. How else are we supposed to figure out what your alignment might be, and how else are we supposed to have a chance to catch scum?
If you think Dean is likely scum, challange Dean. If you think Mneme is likey scum, challange mneme. I can understand that you might not want to challange someone you think you'd lose to, no one wants to die, but if you are pro-town you should challange someone you think is likely scum, and be able to explain why. How else are we supposed to figure out what your alignment might be, and how else are we supposed to have a chance to catch scum?
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
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Let me put it this way: mneme is more likely scum than Dean. But mneme is absent so I don't want to challenge mneme. Dean I find third scummiest after VD and mneme, but since I think VD is liberal, I have to challenge Dean.
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I disagree with this post. If BM would have been saved, he wouldn't have repeated this behavior because there are no other 100% surefire scum, which is the sole reason why BM challenged VD.mneme wrote: Given his action, the odds of BM being scum are fairly high -- and even if he isn't, the loss in info/day of letting him get away with this substantially outweighs the loss to the town of a mislynch.
This looks like a weird thing to say before voting for Stewie. Dylan doesn't have a point with his "I'm so hated, I must be town" speech.mneme wrote:But...it isn't the way to bet, and while dylan has a point with his "I'm so hated, I must be town" speech
If he was scum his team would have thrown him under the bus a long time ago.
I'm not exactly sure what he's saying here. Is he trying to keep his options open and kill either one of Yos or Stoof should they have challenged eachother today ?mneme wrote:That said, I'm very interested in the discussion between Yos and Stoofer -- it's self-evident, but if the newbish players aren't all or most of the conservative mafia (seems likely that they aren't all, at least), some have to be hiding among the "core".
Again, this looks a lot like trying to confuse the town. I think he's trying to fake a mistake to appear town. Well, he got his Dylan lynch all right.mneme wrote:*giggle*. That would require a really big bus. Maybe a fleet.Albert B. Rampage wrote:I still think it might be possible Dylan is scum with mneme tough...maybe.
I've been anti-dylan all three days, nom'd him all three days, and voted to kill him on two of them (I didn't have an opportunity on day 2). I could (looking as a third party observer, which I'm not) see any of the experienced player sitting in the center of this game as possible scum, incluidng yours truly -- but this one's pretty hard to credit.
I seldom like these kinds of posts; "x and y can't be scum together because x has been attacking y" is often a scum strategy to influence the town's play. The mafia already know who is attacking who, so its easy for x to attack y, both being scum, knowing that their teammate z would arrive to the conclusion that x isn't scum with y and proclaim this to the town.mneme wrote:Hmm. Players left who have an unknown alignment to me: DeanWinchester, Mr Stoofer, Albert B. Rampage (r. SpinWizard), Stewie, The Fonz,Yosarian2
I'm pretty sure VD is Liberal, as he says he is -- for the reasons I've stated earlier.
Let's leave out Dean for the moment -- Stoofer's got a point about "too clueless to be scum" though that doesn't clear him.
That leaves us with three scum among Stoofer, Albert, Stewie, Fonz, and Yosarian.
We've had the following distancing:
Stoofer: Yosarian (both ways),
Albert: none (me, but I'm not on the above list). Also, recieving (as spinwizard), Stewie (also as Albert), Fonz (only once, though, and as a secondary)
Stewie: Albert, Dean, (many, many times for both, oddly)
Fonz: Albert, Dean
Yosarian: Stoofer. Both ways.
This is very interesting. First, it seems to indicate that Albert's probably not scum. (would have to be scum with stoofer and yosarian, assuming !bus, and that one's too unlikely to credit for now).
Second, since yosarian and stoofer are probably not -both- scum, that means that stewie and fonz are scum.
That said, Stewie's play has been very good.
Therefore,
Nom: Fonz
Err...that was confusing...I'll try to clarify if you ask me more specific questions. Ever since I replaced I've felt this fake, plastic vibe coming from mneme, I can't explain this hunch too well. It would help if everyone would pitch in and accuse me and mneme to set some ideas straighter in my mind.
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I'm afraid I'm going away for a week, so I'm going to have to vote today.
None of Albert's points cut any ice with me at all. However, I really didn't like mneme's post 522 which (to the extent I understood it) contained all sorts of assumptions and logical leaps that I didn't get. For example, I never said that Dean was "too clueless to be scum"; and although I know that Yosarian2 and I are not bussing each other (because I am a minority candidate), I don't like the way mneme ruled that possibility out so readily.
I've asked for an explanation but got none so far. I'd like to see that post explained in more detail before I cast my vote [although that may not be possible].
As for Albert, he is a classic "easy" player. There are plenty of reasons why he might be scum, just as there were with dylan and Battle Mage...
As I say, I'll have to pick someone in the next few hours, but I'd really rather here from mneme before I do.
None of Albert's points cut any ice with me at all. However, I really didn't like mneme's post 522 which (to the extent I understood it) contained all sorts of assumptions and logical leaps that I didn't get. For example, I never said that Dean was "too clueless to be scum"; and although I know that Yosarian2 and I are not bussing each other (because I am a minority candidate), I don't like the way mneme ruled that possibility out so readily.
I've asked for an explanation but got none so far. I'd like to see that post explained in more detail before I cast my vote [although that may not be possible].
As for Albert, he is a classic "easy" player. There are plenty of reasons why he might be scum, just as there were with dylan and Battle Mage...
As I say, I'll have to pick someone in the next few hours, but I'd really rather here from mneme before I do.
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