↑absta101 wrote:I feel like this game has been ruined now.
This is from a scum perspective. A townie wouldn't think the game would have been ruined from that, and a townie would still be questioning it.
What sort of logic is this?
I obviously meant more than just your shit.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:51 am
by absta101
All the quotes below #432 are not a part of my reasons for voting him. Also, all of that came before I clarified. If I meant for you to consider it, I would've mentioned something about his playstyle/shitposting.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:53 am
by absta101
That is, I would've mentioned something about his playstyle/shitposting WHEN I clarified my read on him if I wanted you to consider it.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:54 am
by redFF
alright man watever u say. im jus tellin it how i see it
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:02 am
by absta101
↑redFF wrote:alright man watever u say. im jus tellin it how i see it
Well now that i've told you that i'm not attacking him for his playstyle/shitposting, the only reason for finding my tunneling scummy is that you think my case on him is weak. What makes you think it's "very weak"?
↑absta101 wrote:@BBT - The fact that he didn't answer why his reads changed so suddenly and the way he tried to make himself look town by using your null read on him. Basically, all of it.
Why do you think scum are more likely to be loose/inconsistent with their reads as opposed to town?
Boon, can you explain town read on Redff please (I know you say something about wagons but can you go in more detail?). Also, the null read on Zoro seems pretty strange and I don't get the scum reads on RC/Keyser.
↑Boonskiies wrote:Actually...switch Absta with Keyser.
VOTE: Absta
This is much better. I like this vote.
↑Zoronos wrote:
He's probably scum. So is Red. I'm looking for the third player at the moment.
What makes you think Boon is scum? Same for Red.
↑Zoronos wrote:Working out if that's Absta or Bulb.
As Absta points out, it seems strange that you feel more comfortable with your scum reads on Boon and Red and yet you're pressuring Absta and have your vote parked on him.
I bought idiot town for woody, but I have a hard time believing this slot was simply idiot town twice. Also not much point for me to be on a wagon nobody is helping with. I still suspect red ff.
Boons posts especially look more like scum than idiot town.
I will post more about him in a little bit
Can you explain what about Boon's posts make you think he is scum?
↑Banakai wrote:I actually made a mistake and though boon replaced woody but he didnt...
Still, woody pulled off idiot town much better than this guy. This guy still just looks like a scum.
No unvote even though you realized you mixed up slots? Hmm.
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:06 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
↑Boonskiies wrote:K, whatever. I'm already kinda done with this game. I have absolutely no interest in this game anymore. I replaced in because I like Shinobi as a mod, and I needed another game to play in, but this is kind of ridiculous.
Keyser's town, just a town with a giant stick up his butt.
Can you explain why Keyser has become town? I saw you say you 'thought one of Absta/Keyser was scum' but I want more than that.
↑Banakai wrote:God damn I had a case written for boon but he just made a case for himself
This is a horrible post. If you had a case all wrote up, why would you not post it anyway?
↑Doctor Who wrote:BBT seems to be laying the foundation of mislynching me should RC flip scum, based on Woody not being around.
Can you go into this some more please?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:58 am
by TonyMontana
+1 on banakai supposedly discarding a case.
I previously had read it as " was gonna write a case on him" which is bad enough in itself, but claiming to throw out any writings because it seems unnecessary is terrible.
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:00 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Apologies for incoming wall, tried to break it up by boxing my reply to Haschel's 502.
↑Doctor Who wrote:This early in the game I can't help but think it was loaded with scum.
Can you explain this? What about the timing of the wagon makes it more likely to have scum on it?
↑redFF wrote:yo i could def get aboard a banakai wagon, his suspicion of me at the start of the game after calling me town was v strange, as was his pushing of boonskiies, where he was essentially calling him a VI over and over
Really? You didn't express this dislike of Banakai's posting at any point of the game. How strange.
↑Keyser Söze wrote:
Haschel Cedricson's observations were interesting:
is probbably not posted enough comments to get noticed by me". Anybody see anything weird about that? Like the attitude that we're only looking for one person and not a partnership?
This is a
possible
scum-slip by Banakai, highlighted by Haschel Cedricson, noted.
Meh, missed this from Haschel's post so will address it here. This is not a scum slip, given we know there are 3 werewolves Banakai would still be 'looking for two wolves', not one. Which completely negates this 'slip'.
512 - Keyser, I thought the Haschel wagon did a pretty good job of starting the game.
I did not want to follow up on Zoro's line of questioning on Absta. That was for Zoro to do, I was merely pointing out that I agreed with his point.
My vote did not move to Absta because I was happy with the current game state and the direction the game was taking. I had made my point about Absta clear and I was waiting for a response from him (a response I believe I still haven't had).
My current read on the Woody slot is that it's likely town.
I also think Boon is likely to be town. He isn't this bad as scum, his scum game is somewhat decent.
515 - Redff, can you elaborate on what you don't like about Keyser's posting?
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:01 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Will continue catch up later today.
For now though;
VOTE: Absta
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:06 am
by absta101
@BBT
Why do you think scum are more likely to be loose/inconsistent with their reads as opposed to town?
Scum don't believe their reads.
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:06 am
by absta101
Thats L-1 btw, tell me when you want my claim.
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:12 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
It's L-2.
But doesn't that bring attention to yourself? Why would you do that as scum?
But doesn't that bring attention to yourself? Why would you do that as scum?
Do you even think about it before you ask? If scum never made mistakes, we would never catch them.
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:18 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
I see. I'm simply saying that scum would have to be super bad to play in the manner that Boon is playing and I know Boon is not super bad at playing scum.
Your reasons are weak and based on surface level actions.
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:43 am
by Zoronos
↑BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 465, Zoronos wrote:
He's probably scum. So is Red. I'm looking for the third player at the moment.
What makes you think Boon is scum? Same for Red.
Boon is leaning very heavily on his VI stereotype this game. His play seems focused on generating noise rather than on finding scum. His 'Ah ha!' self vote -> scum read felt very contrived / non-genuine.
RedFF is basically active lurking. He's not doing anything that I can see to sort town from scum. No reasoning and lots of personal attack.
I disliked his post at Woody about defending himself; I disagree with your (and others) interpretation that he found a scummy contradiction. Woody contradicted himself, but that looked like ego protection behavior rather than scum behavior.
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:44 am
by Doctor Who
Prod dodge, expect more from me within 24 hours.
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:52 am
by absta101
@BBT
↑BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I see. I'm simply saying that scum would have to be super bad to play in the manner that Boon is playing and I know Boon is not super bad at playing scum.
Your reasons are weak and based on surface level actions.
Well I don't know Boon and either way i'd have to assume he doesn't play in line with town-motivations as town if I don't see him as scum.
My reasons are based on what I see, not on meta.
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:55 am
by absta101
↑Boonskiies wrote:@Keyser - Hey, I'm Boonskiies. I'm THE village idiot of mafia scum, nice to meet you. My Day 1's are horrendous, and I flip flop my reads constantly.
↑Boonskiies wrote:I'm just going to say right now, BBT has pretty much caught me out as scum in every scum game I've been in with him. The fact that I'm still null to him should show you that my antics are just Boon being annoying.
Just look at this, this isn't genuine at all.
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 3:04 am
by Keyser Söze
This is why I hate anti-town/self-voting/Village Idiot behaviour:
Scum can blend in by voting for the anti-town/self-voting/Village Idiot. I do not blame either town or scum voting for an anti-town/self-voting/Village Idiot, they have every right to do so
This what makes it harmful for town - do not feed scum ammunition!
