Either these guys will trust me or not. I don't really care which.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:37 pm
by Joushi
How sure are you that IV is scum? Like self vote next day if you're wrong sure?
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:33 pm
by ironstove
even if he says yes he won't self vote instead he will fos another player lol
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:47 pm
by Joushi
I kinda feel like we're all waiting with bated breath to see what Enefpe says if/when they come back
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:34 pm
by innocentvillager
In post 552, ironstove wrote:even if he says yes he won't self vote instead he will fos another player lol
Exactly.
Even if Transcend agrees to selfvote tomorrow, it doesn't mean jackshit. He's obviously not going to immediately selfvote if he's town, since that's an instant lylo-loss.
People will just end up evaluating him the same way anyway. He will explain that "I will selfvote if you guys really want me to, but it doesn't need to happen immediately".
This is the same tactic I pulled in my scumgame in Newbie 1722. I said I will selfvote if the D2 lynch was wrong, which I knew it was wrong. I counterclaimed Tracker to win the game later. Obviously Transcend might or might not claim PR after my flip, whatever; point is, it's null.
So, if Transcend says "Yes if I will self-vote if IV flips town", that does NOT give you the green light or should not give you any inkling to vote for me.
Either these guys will trust me or not. I don't really care which.
You're not doing a very good job of getting me lynched then LOL
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:47 pm
by Transcend
In post 551, Joushi wrote:How sure are you that IV is scum? Like self vote next day if you're wrong sure?
No
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:18 pm
by Transcend
Like I said, I'm done trying. I've been trying to get this guy lynched since about page 1 no joke and I haven't given up yet. He is textbook motherfucking scum and either you guys are gonna trust me or just ignore me. You let this guy escape rope D1 and we lynched town.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:37 pm
by ironstove
In post 557, Transcend wrote:Like I said, I'm done trying. I've been trying to get this guy lynched since about page 1 no joke and I haven't given up yet. He is textbook motherfucking scum and either you guys are gonna trust me or just ignore me. You let this guy escape rope D1 and we lynched town.
Can you explain why he's scum? What posts make you convinced he is mafia?
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:38 pm
by Transcend
Again, my answer is no.
You're gonna blind trust me and lynch him.
Or you're not gonna blind trust me and not lynch him.
I don't care at this point.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:40 pm
by ironstove
IV do you mind posting your updated reads on the players in the game ? Is there anyone you're town or scum reading?
Or you're not gonna blind trust me and not lynch him.
I don't care at this point.
What have you done thus far to deserve my trust and respect? Nothing you've said thus far has carried any merit, and you can blame it on me for being a bad player, but it's actually on you for being awful at communicating your ideas. No one here is going to be able to go into your head and understand what it is that you're thinking and in a game that is based on lying and manipulating people's trust, expecting me to blindly follow you is stupid. Can you understand why what you're saying is really stupid and why I'm not taking you seriously?
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:45 pm
by ironstove
Transcend, if you were in my position what would you do?
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:47 pm
by Transcend
Again, if I don't have your trust and respect, I don't really care. You can just let innocentvillager take a crap on you all game when I said he was scum 1 page into the game.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:51 pm
by Joushi
Ok let's try a different tact. I'm really not convinced IV is scum, but if he is, he needs to have a scumbuddy. Who do you think is that person?
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:53 pm
by Transcend
leaning a bit towards the soula/hark/penguin slot
like i don't see joushi karnos or stove as scum at all
enefpe is a pr, he's probably going to get subbed out and we'll have more helpful inofrmation.
In post 529, Transcend wrote:My guess is we're in one of the setups with a roleblocker for mafia and scum blocked entsc action
Why? He hasn't even posted D2 yet, so what are you basing this on?
Actually I noticed some MAJOR flaw in Enefpe's previous claims and postings. If he doesn't come on and clarify shortly we should just lynch him.
I want to see this.
I just don't see scum motivation for Enefpe to lie.
Maybe someone out there wants to catch Enefpe in a bad claim to test if he's really the right PR; idk, I don't think it's worth it. Let him wifom the way through. I don't think scum knows nor needs to know Enefpe's claim.
Enefpe and ironstove are definitely my top two townreads rn. Penguin/Joushi also feel pretty town too.
Which would suggest karnos/Transcend, but that doesn't feel right either.
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:54 pm
by Transcend
yeah honestly iv's 542 was a load of crap
maybe if i glued a telescope to your eyes you guys could see it... maybe
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:56 pm
by ironstove
why is it a load of crap?
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:56 pm
by Transcend
just is
i'm bad at explaining myself, hence why i'm banking on you just trusting me
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:02 am
by Joushi
I just can't in good conscience just blind follow a vote like that when my reads are so different.
Transcend wrote:leaning a bit towards the soula/hark/penguin slot
like i don't see joushi karnos or stove as scum at all
enefpe is a pr, he's probably going to get subbed out and we'll have more helpful inofrmation.
Let's go back here though. What has that slot done? Which player made you think the slot is scum?
Then how does their play tie to IV's play that makes you think they're buddies?
i'm bad at explaining myself, hence why i'm banking on you just trusting me
I don't like this at all. Your tone is completely different than what it was in the beginning of the game. Comparing your posts now to pages 1-6, you went through in more detail than now on why you were acting the way you were.
Your initial scumread of IV is that you don't like how enefpe was townreading skold more than IV, and scum reading IV/joushi.
Going through more of your posts, you didn't provide further reasoning, you just kept tunneling IV and proceeded to not give any more details besides that initial post about how the post he made on page 2 of this thread seemed mafia.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:14 am
by Joushi
Well, while I'm on and it looks like Stove's on, what are your thoughts on Enefpe, Transcend, Penguin, and I guess me for completion's sake. You don't want to lynch IV (at least without good reason)