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Mmm. If you say so.

In post 161, Kokichi Oma wrote:So.. You're okay with a RVS vote over someone you actually gave a read to? Alright..

@shinori this was my reasoning. Why stay on your RVS vote when you had an actual read?

In post 249, Shinori wrote:Still waiting for how I'm scum but you seem to have the mental capacity of some neanderthal who still doesn't know what fire is so I guess I can't expect anything from you. At least it's good to know that I can now right you off as worthless to listen to for opinions.

Looool. Ngl I townread this post

In post 256, Shinori wrote:I assume paraphrasing my role and claiming isn't a modkillable offense.

Yeah shinori is prob town

I am capable of reevaluating people and if you're town who has actually decided to just ignore me then you're creating a self fulfilling prophecy.

In post 271, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 262, Kokichi Oma wrote:I'm fine with Bujab or Shinori

VOTE: Bujab

Seems to have more traction

I don't like this kokichi

I hadn't read the posts that were in between my last 2 posts, or I wouldn't have voted shinori. Bujab has done nothing to the point though so I'll keep reading.

In post 303, RadiantCowbells wrote:Nico +equity town

Explain this

I meant to quote that with me too. But why do you townread us

In post 547, AnonymousGhost wrote:

In post 532, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'll say somewhat garbled and non-linear and she had a very roundabout approach to things

Accurate.

In post 532, RadiantCowbells wrote:that's not what i've seen of her towngame.

And this is the part where I'm skeptical. Then again, maybe I'm thinking that you're orange - like me - when you're really an apple who has a good grasp of someone's town/scum meta on the first try.

Why would I have messaged you in the first place about hydraing if I hadn't read other games by you?

In post 388, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 361, AnonymousGhost wrote:@Dunn - Can you elaborate on why you didn't like the Kokicki post?

idk, I feel like kokichi has a certain style of doing things and that felt weird from him

As I explained I was more prod dodging and hadn't caught up past page 8

I lean town on dunn slightly btw

In post 389, Toranaga wrote:I feel like kokichi posting any content is a bad look tbh

Can you explain this?

And if the sole piece of your meta that I've put forward is something that you agree is accurate then you should also extrapolate from that to think that I'm generally capable of reading you correctly
so am I scum for -not- reading you correctly? Do you think you've played this game in such a way as to not garner scumreads? If so, do you have questions about the people townreading you?

In post 391, Toranaga wrote:I never played against wolf kokichi to tell any difference but he is being way more engange-y with reads and stuff than I remember him ever being as town.

I hardly play differently as any alignment depends on how focused I care about the game or how fun I perceive it. I can show you me a few links of me being power town and also power scum, if need be. But I understand why you made that post.

It's always nice to have an engaged Kokichi.

In post 389, Toranaga wrote:I feel like kokichi posting any content is a bad look tbh

Actually wait. I had only posted up to page 8 to this point which was barely any content. So why make this post?

I have to go. I'll finish catching up in an hour.

@kokichi because I do deal with it essentially

if i could say anything that would be at all productive in terms of you reading me I'd say it but I can't so I am going to just shrug at you.

In post 558, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why would I have messaged you in the first place about hydraing if I hadn't read other games by you?

I don't know.

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But that's just it. A piece of my meta.

The key word in your sentence is 'generally', which is another way of saying 'most cases'. This just so happens to be a case where you're wrong.

No, you're not scum. Like I stated in my reads list, I think you're town, but I also think you're thinking in black and white terms; "Ghost is acting according to her town meta, thus she be scum."

Well, that's a loaded question isn't it? I'm already getting scum read by yourself, Sakura, and Popo, aren't I?

If someone plays mafia, getting scum read is like playing dodge ball. You're bound to get hit with the ball at some point or another. Getting scum read for whatever reason comes with the territory of playing mafia. And like getting hit with the ball, you can either accept it or throw a temper tantrum. For me, accepting it is easier than throwing a temper tantrum.

If you're implying that I'm letting the peeps who town read me off the proverbial hook by not asking questions, then you should probably reread the bottom of Page 22 where I ask Tora to explain his Penguin read.

I'm not asking for you to throw a temper tantrum. I'm asking you to either explain why I'm wrong or play the game in a manner that I see that I'm wrong and I don't see you trying to do either.

Throwing a temper tantrum is unhelpful because if I'm unconvinced you're town I can lynch you anyway. Helping me to see that you're town if you're town pays lots of dividends for all parties involved

And regarding other players: you either agree with me that you're (leaning) scum based on your play in this game or you don't. If you don't, you should be worried about me. If you do, then you should be worried about people TMI townreading you.

In post 540, BuJaber wrote:

In post 510, Toranaga wrote:I'm sitting here with 0 scumreads and reading isn't helping me get anywhere

Can you elaborate on why popo is 'fine' instead of null?

Also townreading moment seems too fast. He/she had townie looking posts but it was very early in the game and he/she hasn't commenting on the later stuff yet.

One small thing that pinged me about AG was how quickly she confirmed the blazblu world neighbors. Just feels like an easy way to look helpful. Nobody questioned sakura on it or contradicted her so why the eagerness to claim it? But nothing else seems particularly scum-indicative but I don't know her meta so meh

it's a lot of small things, right? I liked popo disliking moment's entrance. I kinda like moment's tone? like the way he is approaching the game seems particularly confident and based, but he can totally be a wolf. they can both be wolves, and I'm sure my townreads are not all accurate.

I don't think AG confirming her world is AI.

@RC - And I explained where you're wrong.

You only know a portion of my meta and you're arriving to the conclusion that if I'm not acting town, then I must be scum. It's flawed logic.

If every person who acted like scum was scum, then we could lynch them all and score a win. Sadly, it doesn't work like that.

Pedit:

Asking me to play the game in a manner that you associate with my town meta is a basic 'damned if I do, damned if I don't' situation. If I do, then from an objective standpoint, it looks like I'm trying to appease you, which is scummy as knobs.

I disagree on the point where you're convinced that you know my town meta. Your black and white logic is bad, but I think that that's town indicative.

I worry about them, but most likely not for the reasons you think I should be worried.