Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Something_Smart]

I think it's surprising past what should be plausible that you don't see why Bob has this scumread

I can totally see why he has it, and I just said as much. He's narrow-minded. It's not the first time I've played with someone like that.

What's weird is that this isn't the first time bob has played with me. But he was scum the other time, so if anything this reaction is town indicative for him (since he's now actually having to sort me).

[Eddie Cane]

@Krazy why do you feel weird to Ank?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Pops might be scum.

@Nancy I accept your angry apology but what game is HP? I can't respond without knowing the acronyms.

Sorry, not good enough.

[bob3141]

I mean caring about being right and being recognized as being right and in the right. It's not actually important but scum care about it more than town. There's no sorting to do but there's plenty of people making right and wrong statements.
I think it's surprising past what should be plausible that you don't see why Bob has this scumread and I generally think of you as a player who can empathize with the reasons behind inaccurate scumreads so this is indeed very different from what I expect from town-you which is a recurring pattern this game

So are you saying you dont town read smart for the fact he cant in your opinion empathize with the line of questioning. As his intial responses must of convinced you that he was looking scummy. Since it motivated you to make a vote on him.

Before any line of enquiry had been completed. Is there anything else you have seen from smart that contributed to your scum read of him. That was strong enough to result in a vote



I also find peculiare that you would start mentioning me having a scum read on smart. Even though I never actualy mentioned that i concluded a scum read on him. With me only questioning him on a few of his actions to try and determine his alignment. The bit i find peculiare is not that you think i scum read him but that you would use it to push a scum read on him. based on empathy on scum read you couldnt be entirly sure that i do have

[Nancy Drew 39]

Pops might be scum.

@Nancy I accept your angry apology but what game is HP? I can't respond without knowing the acronyms.

Sorry, not good enough.

Not by a fucking longshot.

House Party and until I fucking get mine, I will not be engaging with you.

[pisskop]

i accept your townread Eddie

[OkaPoka]

UNVOTE:

@nacl I don't feel krazy lynch good anymore

I feel meh about all the other existing wagon someone sell me

I don't know if what ss is currently posting is scum indicative or even ai

[popsofctown]

I'm mobile so I can't trim 553 down but you're really playing word police and making SS look like a kettle instead of a pot. You know I meant "negative interaction", I don't give a rip whether you've decided to register with the courthouse for a net scumread or not. Yes I was cognizant of like 4 pages ago you said you weren't sure whether you want to scumread it.
How is this kind of nitpick going to win the mafia game?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Auro is saying that Krazy’s locktown. I will find the post, he quoted.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Spoiler:

[/quote="In post 491, Krazy"]

because while he was asking elsa about frozen 2 there were things going on in the background that he could;ve entered into on his own accord

like he had to be brought into setup spec stuff, but like even if he isn't into that

there were other ongoing happenings in thread that he avoided

Yes, you were contributing to the pointless spammy setup spec and you were scummy for that too. Titus made a bad proposal, it was shot down, the correct strategy was identified quickly and then everyone decided to keep talking about it like it was interesting when it was not. Pine in particular argued there was a mech solution possible when that's laughable. It seemed insincere. But here's the thing. If people are going into bad setup spec, and you want to see how far they push it, then you sometimes need to just let the do their thing. What if they *do* try to say there's a solve? You don't get people to open up naturally by constantly breathing down their neck and whining.

Look at your development on me. You first complain that I'm not being "solvy" when the game is still in a pretty boring slot. Why do you focus on me? Because I asked Elsa about the meme that his entire persona is based around? Here's the thing Oka. That is to say that you don't think I'm solving the game in a way *you like* because I actually try to get a feel for people and how they're doing rather than spam posting whatever inane thought has popped into my head that particular second. Like you're usually annoying and you don't respond particularly well to my playstyle so I was kinda willing to give you some room to be wrong but you're being too incessantly wrong and too distracting for me to give you a pass here. I'm starting to feel this push is more agenda-driven, or you're just having a bad early game even for you, but frankly I know your scum game involves being distracting and annoying, and I know your towngame is mediocre so I'm more than happy to just remove your slot and get on with the game since there's little upside to keeping you alive.

I already have a pretty decent town pile. There are arguments for Titus, S_S, pops, Nancy, and piss for town. I am pretty sure I can solve Dr. Downey Jr. by day 2. Elsa if scum is unlikely to endgame in a setup this stacked for town. So strictly speaking, if town is going to lose, it's going to be against people who can organize a scum strategy well (Pine) or someone who can actively disrupt town cohesion (you). You give weak agreements with what I'm saying about scumreads but actively distract and disrupt from my solving, so since you don't seem to want to even let me push Pine without you deflecting pressure off him then it seems like you going first is the best thing that can happen to this town.

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For this.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Auro also says “hi” to SS and says that he doesn’t think that Elsa isn’t enjoying the game which is a towntell for her.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Auro also says “hi” to SS and says that he thinks that Elsa isn’t enjoying the game which is a towntell for her.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Auro also says that Elsa isn’t being flashy, which probably means she’s town here. He says being flashy is NIA for her but not being flashy is definitely a towntell for her.

[Something_Smart]

Hi Auro o/

[Amrun]

@Titus, if you’re seriously going to follow Math’s reads, then I will be advocating PLing you in every game we’re in. Not joking.

This seems really excessive and unfair. This is team mafia, and it’s her actual brother.

[Amrun]

I don’t think anyone is currently sr Eddie?

piss was arguing for pressure there even if it wasn't a full scumread so I was responding to that

Yes, pressure will be very effective on somebody with almost no internet. Scare me out of airplane mode!

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[Nancy Drew 39]

@Titus, if you’re seriously going to follow Math’s reads, then I will be advocating PLing you in every game we’re in. Not joking.

This seems really excessive and unfair. This is team mafia, and it’s her actual brother.

Which is why I apologized to her. As I said, that was wrong of me to do that. I also have experience with Math deathtunelling a slot and he can wear you down until you see things his way. I know, I hydra’d with him in DnD and any even the slightest suggestion about him being possibly wrong on Kokichi scum, I would never hear the end of it.

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Titus, if you’re seriously going to follow Math’s reads, then I will be advocating PLing you in every game we’re in. Not joking.

This seems really excessive and unfair. This is team mafia, and it’s her actual brother.

Which is why I apologized to her. As I said, that was wrong of me to do that. I also have experience with Math deathtunelling a slot and he can wear you down until you see things his way. I know, I hydra’d with him in DnD and any even the slightest suggestion about him being possibly wrong on Kokichi scum, I would never hear the end of it.

I also was way more tilted than serious. I respect site rules and would never ever actually do anything like that.

[Titus]

So what is it you actually want an apology for Nancy? I'm confused. I value our friendship too much to apologize just to do so. Plus, you'd see through that.

[Amrun]

I don't think scum-bob would have any difficulty making that post?

I find this a little weird. From its chronology I can only assuem you were responding to nan posts. Where she questiosn hectic vote. A posts that does not imply she a town read on me but that a it stands she couldnt see anything scum indicative so far. Which is far cry from some thinkign that post looks towny. What she said is she liked my doc comments. Which is different from town reading those comments. But instead reading them as value to town

But you first response is to shout (paraphrased)" oh but scum bob could make that post"

I could understand this if it was accompanied by something you claimed to have seen that resulted in you scum reading. But there is no comment on my alignment in your post.

So im trying it hard to see the purpose of your post


I just cant see you making that post if you didnt already have scum read one me. Unless you were scum trying to shade what i said.

If S_S is scum, bob probably isn’t.

Factually, though, S_S is right and bob is easily capabale of that as scum.

[Titus]

I kinda see a pops and bob team.

[Something_Smart]

I kinda see a pops and bob team.

I doubt that, I don't think pops would jump on me while bob was still questioning me.

[Nancy Drew 39]

So what is it you actually want an apology for Nancy? I'm confused. I value our friendship too much to apologize just to do so. Plus, you'd see through that.

I was really upset when I told you I was tilted and you still pushed me to make reads and then when I told you how hurt I was, it looked like you were ridiculing me. It was never about the bad sr

Spoiler:

but seriously though, you really shouldn’t ever listen to Math about reads .

I legit can’t think straight when I’m really upset, much less make reads - let alone vote.

Spoiler:

Also, I know for a fact that Math knows nothing about my meta, because I literally begged him to read some of my past games to give me feedback on and he refused to do that. I honestly don’t even understand why he thinks I could ever be scum here but I actually think you make much better reads without consulting him and I think you know that too.

[Titus]

I'm sorry that you felt ridiculed and bullied. That was never my intent. I just wanted to get a read on you myself. Math keeps saying there's an off factor with you and Elsa Jay. Not sure I agree.

I'm more interested in pops bob and hectic. Hectic has not displayed s strong reaction to me outing the hood.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don’t think anyone is currently sr Eddie?

piss was arguing for pressure there even if it wasn't a full scumread so I was responding to that

Yes, pressure will be very effective on somebody with almost no internet. Scare me out of airplane mode!

Beetlejuice beetlejuice

@Eddie, do you still maintain what you said in GS about having brilliant reads?