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I think kanna reads make sense from a town perspective, she hasn't been sheeping much besides shos. I would much rather believe scum!kanna gives in against me, BS and/or poyzin but she didn't so i'm still townreading her. Shos has been scummy lately, there's no way around that. Might reconsider kanna if poyzin is scum

Bingle is less readable than others but i think he's town. Same for korina, but slightly less town.

Hectic is town for post content, same as kanna

OS is off my radar for today, will resume later on a wrong flip in my scumreads

My lynchpool is unchanged at poyzin, shos, BS. The more time passes, the more i'm sold on pozyin being caught scum. I think town would get mad for being miswagoned at this point, not disappear completely

I'm starting to get the impression Jangle could be chainsaw defending sh0s after distancing early on. Why'd you spend the first half of the day voting him and asking people "why sh0s?", Bengle?

Also, please give reasons for scum!me other than "his behaviour indicates he's trying to look like town", or at least show posts which indicate what gives you that impression.

Poyzin's lack of activity recently is NAI, since it's consistent elsewhere on site, but still, we need to hear a lot more from him.

In post 549, Bingle wrote:Towncore:

Bingle
shos
Kori

Probs not CL because of the ease with which their wagons popped up:
Blatant
Farkran

Don't want to lynch on angleshooty replacing out of a cult game via lurking implies not cult reasons:
Obv

Poyz, Hectic, Kanna all seem like fine lynches. I'd compromise on any of the three, but atm I actually think I prefer Kanna. Sheeping me onto Shos feels like letting a high charisma player get

a mislynch and the blame for said mislynch.

How do you know shos is a mislynch?

Forgive my ignorance, can anyone explain to me what a chainsaw defense is?

Attacking your scum buddy's attackers. In this case Bongle is attacking Kanna and I.

I’m confident Farkran is town, given that it is understandable to wagon me right now with my piss-poor apologies. Because of this, I think that it isn’t an issue that I’m the leading wagon, as Farkran has plenty of reasons for doing so. Also, I haven’t really expressed much emotions while playing, which also isn’t an issue because I try not to. Therefore, I am aware that I look pretty scummy for lurking and not inputting much. Reads list soon.

I’m the Town Rolestopper and I was trying to not attract too much attention. That didn’t work out well.

In post 556, Poyzin wrote:with my piss-poor apologies.

Piss-poor activity. My apologies*

Town:
Hectic
Farkran

Null Town:
Korina
Kanna

Null:
Obvious
Sh0S

Null-Scum:
Bingle
Blatant



I’m more sure that Blatant is a cultist than I am sure that Bingle is a CL. Bingle is my closest guess for CL, but my read there is weak. Blatant I’m much more sure is a cultist, but lynching a cultist isn’t as beneficial as lynching the CL. Better than nothing though.

Inclined to believe him since scum would get caught by anything that wasn't tracker or cop. Unfortunately that means it's almost impossible to save him from being culted tonight.

Still good for tracker since that means a no-visit result from the tracker would usually be an inno, and tracker/cop is very unlikely to grt culted n1 now so we should have at least one good result going into tomorrow.

So your reasoning on bs is that he's cultist trying to get lynched rather than town shitposting in a cult game?

Hm. If i believe poyzin, and i think i do unless a counterclaim pops up, what does this mean for the others?

Shos, tmi or genuine townread? (Wrt poyzin i mean)
I don't know.

Kanna, same as shos... but i can't read kanna as scum today, it's beyond me.

BS, pocketing me? Maybe. Re-reading his ISO i think that his logic around hammering and VCA in his wagon (post 224) made sense though, and it's similar to how i would act (and have acted in the past) as town.

Hectic and OS are unchanged from this development i guess

Bingle and korina are going to fall greatly from my grace. Maybe bingle deserves more credit to his scumrange and i may have been fooled by good logic and agreement bias?

Adjusting my lynchpool to {bingle > shos > BS = korina} in that specific order

VOTE: bingle

Fuck it, with Poyzin claiming, I feel like I should claim this as well:
I'm Tracker. Poyzin goes on me tonight, and he'll obviously get culted. Setup is B3. Poyzin isn't the lynch for tomorrow.

We don't lynch Poyzin, Myself, Fark, Hectic, Kanna today. We lynch Blatant, Obvious, Bingle, Shos.
I check one of those we don't lynch.

Whoever I check tonight is more or less an IC. There's the off-chance they're cult rolecop, but it's whatever. I feel like I can mechanically solve this game knowing it's B3.

Our goal at this point is to hit the CL, and if we get to D3 without hitting CL, we powerlynch Poyzin, then obviously me.

VOTE: Bingle

L-2

Also, if we hit CL today, it doesn't matter at this point. We auto-win. Me and Poyzin are ICs, and we just powerlynch outside of that pool until we win.
If we hit Cult Rolecop today, it kinda won't matter. CL will be forced to give up a guilty by targeting Poyzin.

I probably check Poyzin n2 as well to ensure CL didn't try recruiting someone else.

Lul, why would you claim, Korina? Now instead of Poyzin being basically guaranteed cultist tomorrow, we won't know who to trust out of you/Poyzin, since either of you is a fine recruit for the CL. You did this because you want a possibility of being culted, didn't you? Sumuh. Poyzin rolestopping you doesn't make any sense whatsoever, so not sure where you're going with that, why would he want to rolestop the tracker?

That aside, why are you guys voting Bungle over Sh0s?

Oh, nvm that. I misinterpreted how rolestopper works; I thought it prevented your target from acting at all, rather than protecting your target from any actions. Ignore me, Korina.

Korina can't be culted tonight, poyzin can.

Korina has only 1 relevant investigation to make, after which he can no longer be accountable.

With these claims we never lynch poyzin or korina until we get the CL.

Bingle, shos and BS remaining in my lynchpool. Why bingle over any of them... cult equity is there in all three, and we probably lynch all three. The game has now turned into "pick 3 VTs you can trust and lynch the rest". I pick hectic, kanna and OS.

D4 actually is when I'm irrelevant.
N1: Poyzin targets me, I target shos/BS, Cult recruit Poyzin.
N2: Poyzin culted, I target Poyzin,
N3: I target someone, Cult targets me.

I mean revealing does guarantee that we lose both PRs back to back n1-n2 so it's still a bit of a ? play but whatever

game's probably make or break by day 3 anyway so it might not really matter though

OS - Korina - poyz

CL and culted inside: [Farkran, BS, Hectic, Bingle, Kanna, shos]

nolynch/bs feels like someone who recognizes this setup is a cult game and spent the beginning screwing around, which feels townie to me

Hectic's early capslock posts don't really feel like a CL trying to slip under the radar

I thought 459 felt like a town reaction to gamestate personally but this read might be only ~so-so, I can revisit this after a review tonight

I was going to finish my thoughts on this list but I ran out of time and I'll be on a diff computer later so I'm just gonna post it before its lost

I also have two relevant investigations actually. N1 and N2. Cult are forced to target Poyzin tonight, and N2 confirms Poyzin getting culted.
As an aside,

Oh I guess, but Korina's logic kinda assumes we don't hit scum at all which is a little bit pessimistic