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Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:46 pm**

The response wasn't really asking him about the read directly though, it was more of a rhetorical question that you didn't expect him to actually answer. He did answer though.

In post 361, clidd wrote:
In post 352, Luca Blight wrote:250 - I don't really get why Clidd has me as lock town for the posts he linked. Why would you TR someone for common sense?

And how is the post below common sense or even town-indicative?

In post 67, Luca Blight wrote:Welcome dsjstr, but damn I’m disappointed creative left. Was looking forward to playing with them.
It seems that you misinterpreted my read's intention. Common sense, in this context, are suggestively basic attitudes or actions, with simple reasoning based on evidence or a series of information that, when linked, form a certain conclusion that is beyond the reach of possible scums, being more easily performed by towns, precisely for the intuitive behavioral authenticity, which I used to subjectively evaluate the set of posts I quoted about you. Evidently, when a fragment is separated from them, it is not possible, however, to understand the general meaning, therefore, isolating post 67 the way it was done in this post is something that significantly distances it from the proper interpretation and, consequently, contributed to the structuring of a line of thought that fits me, obviously, as extreme scum from your point of view. Possibly the two games we played in, had a greater impact on your decision making about my possible alignment placement here, if we do not consider my distance from the beginning of the game. This is problematic, considering that you are locktown to me, even though you are mistaken in most of your considerations. I believe that an approach to this, imagining myself in your place, will not be effective in changing your opinion, so I will probably be ignoring you in this game.

And you never really followed up on it other than slapping a townread on him.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:47 pm**

It's almost 1AM here so I'm going to bed. If you have any other questions for me I'll answer them tomorrow at some point.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:48 pm**

And I gave my reasons for 'slapping a TR on him'.

This feels just like in the last game where I suspected you, and you tried to deflect from it by suspecting me in return.

Why didn't you mention any of this before I called you out?

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:50 pm**

VOTE: Frost

Sweet dreams

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:51 pm**

I feel better about Aaron from this last page. I still want an answer to my question though Aaron, it wasn't rhetorical!

Pedit: VOTE: Luca

Nope!

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:52 pm**

Why do you feel better about Frost, and why are you voting me?

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:52 pm**

Aaron is obvtown. It's highly doubtful to me that townLuca wouldn't see it.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:53 pm**

You have a 100% read rate on him, yet your voting him after a splurge of obvtown posts.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:53 pm**

I am Town!Luca but I don't see it.

Point it out for me?

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:00 pm**

He's completely different than last game. No shame. He's been scum hunting the entire time you've been discussing with him rather than just reacting defensively. He's also making legit points. For example, his #550 is a solid point. He's not deflecting at all. You didn't really pursue Clidds read on you.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:02 pm**

I agree he is a bit different from the last game, but that doesn't mean he's Town. He was lynched D1 and will obviously look to improve his play.

His points against me were purely defensive. Why did he not mention them until I called him out on it? He did the same thing in the previous game as well.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:03 pm**

I even linked him the games regarding Clidd so he should have already known my reason for not pursuing that initial SR.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:06 pm**

He brought up the point off hand as a natural extension of the topic. He didn't bring it up before simply because you guys weren't talking about it before. It's clear that it's a thought that occurred to him in that moment.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:09 pm**

@Clidd looks like your intuition was wrong.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:10 pm**

It's basically taking my point and saying 'no u'. It's a common scum tactic. Town do it as well, but it certainly isn't Town-indicative imo.

As I said, I linked him the games regarding Clidd so Frost definitely knew my reasons for initially SR'ing him, and therefore should have known why I TR him for actively contributing. It comes across to me as pure deflection.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:13 pm**

In post 563, Ame wrote:@Clidd looks like your intuition was wrong.

So you're suddenly confident I'm scum based on this, are you?

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:13 pm**

There's nothing about his post that suggest he was using the point to throw shade at you. He didn't make an accusation. He explained himself, then made his own inquiry into you.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:17 pm**

You don't have to make an accusation to shade someone, or deflect from a line of questioning towards yourself.

As I've said a few times now, I don't think his 'surprise' is genuine a) due to the timing of it and b) because he already knew why I TR Clidd based on those reasons.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:18 pm**

In post 565, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 563, Ame wrote:@Clidd looks like your intuition was wrong.
So you're suddenly confident I'm scum based on this, are you?

Yep, fairly confident!

Along with the rest of your play this game, it's highly doubtful that you're town here.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:19 pm**

Want to elaborate on the rest of my play?

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:20 pm**

In post 562, Ame wrote:He brought up the point off hand as a natural extension of the topic. He didn't bring it up before simply because you guys weren't talking about it before. It's clear that it's a thought that occurred to him in that moment.

I don't know what else to say. The fact that you're not getting this is unreasonable to me.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:21 pm**

And I think it's unreasonable that you're SR'ing me so strongly because I disagree on Frost.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:24 pm**

In post 569, Luca Blight wrote:Want to elaborate on the rest of my play?

Your voting pattern is clunky. It just doesn't have a natural flow to it. Your vote on me, switch to Clidd, and now your vote on Aaron. You also accepted Clidds reads too easily. And you have an overall sense of trying not to step on people's toes. There's this underlying guilt I feel.

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:26 pm**

In post 571, Luca Blight wrote:And I think it's unreasonable that you're SR'ing me so strongly because I disagree on Frost.

If you want to admit that your perfect record on Aaron is now broken, I'll drop it

(But not really)

Posted: **Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:28 pm**

So you're suspecting me for two votes during RVS, that have both been fully explained, accepting Clidd's reads even though I didn't accept them as you can see in 352, and for 'not stepping on people's toes', even though I've just been stepping on Frost's and earlier yours, Clidd's and Insomnia's?

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