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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:03 am
by Datisi
Official Vote Count 1.13With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Lynching
EqsyLootz
(2): Atarashi Hajimari, WizenedWalrus
Iconeum
(1): Doobietime
WizenedWalrus
(1): 72offsuit
clidd
(1): Elmo TeH AzN
Doobietime
(1): Iconeum

Not Voting
(3): clidd, Menalque, EqsyLootz

Deadline:
(expired on 2020-03-15 01:30:00).

Mod notes:
  • Iconeum standing V/LA weekends.
  • WizenedWalrus standing V/LA weekends.
  • Elmo TeH AzN V/LA until Tuesday/Wednesday.
  • Menalque V/LA until Sunday.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:07 am
by clidd
In post 539, Menalque wrote:
In post 537, Iconeum wrote:
there is no sense of logical
/townie
thinking
in those reads from doobie
this is why doobie is town, btw
I had games in which players had difficulty understanding what I was typing and usually stated what Ico said (I was town in those games).

Yes, I can understand why you think
Doobie
is town.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:16 am
by clidd
In post 541, Menalque wrote:72 is a good lynch, but idk about the partner

I was thinking Elmo earlier but they kind of seemed town in some of their stuff?

and their push on walrus makes me think it's not walrus, also I don't particularly read walrus as anything yet
I would normally say that I disagree, but I am truly affected by my recent defeat against scum!72.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:19 am
by clidd
My mind needs more time to think. I'll be back later.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:23 am
by clidd

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:13 am
by 72offsuit
Wow, this game is literally 1987 on repeat.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:52 am
by 72offsuit
In post 529, Iconeum wrote:
In post 331, Doobietime wrote:

I concur, it's unlikely, but not impossible. I said the same thing earlier in the thread about it coming across as TvT. But it's easy to play town when there is nothing to really substantiate an argument either way .
In post 107, Doobietime wrote:There's not that much (that's concrete) to be taken from what's been written so far, imo. Maybe it was all towns which were having a battle of wills earlier, everybody came across well meaning so I was looking for logical flaws instead.
Let me spell it out for you.
There is a mason claim (menal). There is a counterclaim to this (mine). Menal is lying. Then Menal backs down and says he was in fact lying.

From this you conclude that I must be scum and menal is probably town. This is not a town mindset from you. Not at all. You got caught in a bad spot and are having trouble positioning yourself based on a bad read from you.
In post 344, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 317, clidd wrote:
Brief
PoE
according to my impression so far:


TRs
--> Ico | Menalque
(BoP)


TL
--> Hajimari | 72offsuit

Unsure
--> Lotus | Doobie | Walrus | Elmo

* I detected some traces of honesty during the conversation with
Elmo
, but nothing so expressive to consider
lock-town
. I believe that her doubt is genuine about the mason claim, as well as her reaction, but I still need a little more certain margin before concluding on such slot.
Lotus
,
Doobie
and
Walrus
need to be better evaluated before I can rate them (even with Lotus being
scummy
recently).

*
Hajimari
and
72offsuit
are
TL
because of their tone, at least as far as I saw.

*
Ico
is a potentially
mason
(if not confirmed), while
Menalque
demonstrates a presence that can be beneficial, but which is subject to his performance, and the time he will spend alive in this game.

* I will continue to operate at a low frequency, focusing on developing some sketches in my notebook. I will be available if anyone needs a second opinion on any matter.

Spoiler:
Image
Find it hard to believe, but I actually agree with Clidd;s readslist for once.

Ye, agree that Mena is unlikely to be scum. Super risky strategy in a Newbie game to pull this sort of gambit. Agree it is basically suicide to trade 1 for 1.

Town-lean: Ico/Clidd/Mena/Elmo
Null: Ata/Doobie
Scum-lean: Walrus/Lotus
This doesn' feel genuine at all. There's a huge event (the claim and counterclaim), and from this you conclude a 'lean'? In what world is this not simply hard scum or hard town? I've not cased 72 yet, but i'm getting them scummmmmy vibes from this slot.
In post 410, Doobietime wrote:I'm confused by the multiple reactions to my continued vote on Ico, especially as it's been spelled out for me that it's not outside the realms of possibility. It's the best I have, guys!

I'm still reading everybody, including Menalque. It would be stupid not to. But I'm leaning towards him being Town for now, mostly because of his entrance- the aforementioned arrogance, the fact he said he plays for fun. This makes me feel like he dropped the mason bomb just to see how it would play out, I don't see him doing so without contingency plans in place for different reactions though. I can see ways he could be scum too. Tbh I haven't even ruled out that he might really be a Mason and there's stuff going on behind the scenes we aren't seeing. I have too many theories and not enough data to start narrowing them down.

I've got brainache, if I get lynched I'm going to have to put off starting a new game so I can lurk and keep up with what's happening :')
So you townread a faked claim, that drew out actual town power. And are scumreading the town power that counterclaimed the faker. How is this genuine? You are turning and twisting and sitting the fence wrt to all of the claim shenanigans but fail to take an actual stance. Heavily scum indicative.
In post 419, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:
In post 409, EqsyLootz wrote:IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER PR CLAIMS! COME OUT IMMEDIATLY AND CC THE MASON! If we have another PR claim the Mason is fake. Or if the PR cc is fake as both Masons' comfirm each other.
Holy shit can we lynch this scum-butt already?
Actually, this is the absolute optimal play for other town power to make. Town power is designated to catch scum, and if they counterclaim they literally achieve their mission. It's a SOLID trade. I don't read this as scum at all.
In post 445, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:Eqsy, Doobie, 72off, Walrus


Both scum are probably in this list.
Strong list, and you get my +1

Lynching in doobie/72off is my opinion.
1. What scum motivation would i have for "townleaning" you itstead of "townreading" you
Actually stop and check yourself for a second, and actually ask yourself the question.
Do you think that! ScumMe is planning to shade you and then lynch you Tomorrow or what?
Correct, i dont have any strong reads either way because im town.

2. Re: Doobie im still unsure either way.

3. Lootz' post 409 is not townmotivated.

Yes 1 scum for 1 PR is an excellent trade. NOOONE is disputing this obvious fact.

Like we have already discussed ad nauseum, scum claiming mason is very unlikely. Asking for any existing PRs to CC if they exist is just a ridiculous statement imo.
The odds of a PR existing is like 2 percent.

Post 409 is the sort of post that is trying to appear town. Its LAMISTY which is one reason why its scummy.
Secondly its dealing with the unlikely rather than the probable.

Its basically the epitome of the wiki when you look up:

Balancing Possibilities Versus Probabilities

So i think your Lootz read is off.

I think we should lynch Lootz.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:54 am
by 72offsuit
Im not getting any scummy vibes off Walrus, though like zero pressure was applied. Can go back to null for the time being

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:59 am
by 72offsuit
In post 364, Menalque wrote:nah, go sleep, you're good for now, I need to sort other people
In post 541, Menalque wrote:72 is a good lynch, but idk about the partner

I was thinking Elmo earlier but they kind of seemed town in some of their stuff?

and their push on walrus makes me think it's not walrus, also I don't particularly read walrus as anything yet
This bothers me. Prior to the afk you basically grill me with questions. Then you conclude with, " im going to sort other slots out" ... Which you dont really do and then you return and basically just say "ye 72 is a good lynch".

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:00 pm
by 72offsuit
VOTE: Esqy

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:02 pm
by 72offsuit
EsqyLootz is at -2

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:02 pm
by 72offsuit
Ebwop: L-2

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:33 pm
by 72offsuit
UNVOTE: Unvote



FoS: esqy

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:35 pm
by Atarashi Hajimari
In post 562, 72offsuit wrote:UNVOTE: Unvote



FoS: esqy
Why unvote?

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:18 pm
by Atarashi Hajimari
Current lynch priority is Eqsy -> 72off/doobie, Walrus

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:28 pm
by 72offsuit
In post 563, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:
In post 562, 72offsuit wrote:UNVOTE: Unvote



FoS: esqy
Why unvote?
I have my reasons. I'll keep to myself for now.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:30 pm
by 72offsuit
In post 564, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:Current lynch priority is Eqsy -> 72off/doobie, Walrus
You earlier say that probs both scum are in these 4.
So who are the scum partners in these 4?

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:33 pm
by 72offsuit
In post 445, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:Eqsy, Doobie, 72off, Walrus


Both scum are probably in this list.
Here was your post.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:41 pm
by 72offsuit
In post 547, clidd wrote:I am imagining that, considering that you know the process by which I formulate my
TLs
, you could emulate a behavior that I expect from a
town!72
. In the last game,
scum!72
used the same reaction as
town!you
before I hammered in the other game, that you were town, and took advantage of my empathy to sow doubt in my decisions..
Ok sure. But whats your updated take on the other 7 players.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:43 pm
by 72offsuit
In post 541, Menalque wrote:72 is a good lynch, but idk about the partner

I was thinking Elmo earlier but they kind of seemed town in some of their stuff?

and their push on walrus makes me think it's not walrus, also I don't particularly read walrus as anything yet
The reason you can't fome up with a narrative that makes sense as a scum partner is because i am town.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:57 pm
by Atarashi Hajimari
In post 565, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 563, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:
In post 562, 72offsuit wrote:UNVOTE: Unvote



FoS: esqy
Why unvote?
I have my reasons. I'll keep to myself for now.
#helpful

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:58 pm
by Atarashi Hajimari
In post 566, 72offsuit wrote:
In post 564, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:Current lynch priority is Eqsy -> 72off/doobie, Walrus
You earlier say that probs both scum are in these 4.
So who are the scum partners in these 4?
Pretty sure I answered this earlier. My leading idea is an Eqsy/Doobie scumteam.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:02 pm
by Atarashi Hajimari
In post 399, Atarashi Hajimari wrote:
In post 394, clidd wrote:
Atarashi Hajimari
, what is your read on
Doobie
now ?
Random question, does it get tiring color coding literally every post you make? I'd get annoyed with trying to keep it up real fast.

To answer your question though, I still dont really like the slot at all, but I'm admittedly having a bit of trouble getting past the newbie-esque feel to her posts to see if its newb-town or newb-scum. I think it's probably the latter,
but I'm more confident that eqsy's slot is scum and, if so, doobie is almost certainly the second scum.
This was the post I did it in. Bolded where.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:24 pm
by Iconeum
In post 556, 72offsuit wrote:So i think your Lootz read is off. I think we should lynch Lootz.
possibly yes

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:26 pm
by Iconeum
VOTE: lootz

i'm not getting any traction wrt to doobie so i'm fine going here