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is this a fake town slip?In post 549, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Since when is there more then 1 Mafia Team?
I think I made it pretty clear that I was just saying my wagon wasn’t pure town.In post 526, The Fonz wrote:Erm, you're lying. I never voted TSE, so the rest of that house of cards collapses based on that. I was reaching out to him, not attacking him.In post 517, Garmr wrote:This makes no sense to me. Your vote was a reach but not to sort him or test a reaction but to correct TSE behaviour so he acts more in line with your will so you can eventually read him???? Voting him will calm him down how?In post 480, The Fonz wrote:It's not misrep, he literally said he knew for a fact there were scum on the wagon. Now, obviously he didn't, which i had as the most likely scenario; he was massively overconfident, which is normal for TSE. You are correct that the post wasn't intended to sort TSE; it was intended to reach on to TSE, in a non confrontational manner, to try to get him to stop doing non alignment indicative flailing and OMGUS, and persuade him to play in a manner more conducive to me getting a read on him.In post 467, Garmr wrote:So this is the post that stood out to me after a skim
This just seems like a massive misrep it's obvious tse means atleast 1 scum on the wagon.In post 251, The Fonz wrote:In post 149, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Well I know for a straight out fact 1 of the people on my starting wagon is scum.
Also, do you all honestly think I’m still toxic?Hey, TSE. Here you imply role information, then do fuck all with it. If you know for a fact, either you have specific info on a single player, or you have some broader "there are x scum in players abc" type knowledge, or you're scum and hinting that you're being bussed like Nero suggests. If you don't, you're completely full of shit.
If you have role info that means town can make a better lynch, then hinting at it rather than outing it means you're already playing badly in an anti town way.
If you're hinting bus, you're scum.
If you're just making it up to try to redirect attention away from you to your Wagoners, then you're being kinda toxic already.
So ten pages in, I'm already left thinking you're either scum, playing really badly, or toxic.
Your Nero vote is pretty bad -even if he's slightly misreading one post, he's showing scumhunting motive. It reads omgus at best, which is not inherently scummy but is a thing I've seen you do that contributes to your perceived toxicity.
So let's turn the volume down. If your "I know there's scum" thing is just your usual overconfidence, then admit that now, and I at least will let it slide. Then tell me something you've noticed about a player NOT on your wagon, and not relating to something they've said about you. Can be anything game relevant. I feel like if you direct your energy at scumhunting on your own wagon, it will continue to come across as defensive and omgussy and look toxic or scummy, making the wagon a self fulfilling prophecy. If you want to help town, look elsewhere, except if you genuinely DO have helpful role info.
VOTE: The fonz
Honestly, yes. He claimed loud bodyguard in his very first post of the game so it's entirely possible he had just checked the thread and didn't realize he was being wagoned.In post 409, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Do you think what TSE described in 364 is truthful? Namely that he didn't realize there were votes on him before he claimed?
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Since it was announced in the sign up thread and the opening posts.In post 549, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Since when is there more then 1 Mafia Team?In post 538, Nero Cain wrote:he's talking aboutIn post 535, davesaz wrote:Please point out the reads you're referring to.In post 529, kagesong wrote:I just didn't see enough content to justify those reads.
In post 309, Nero Cain wrote:scum team 1
insomnia
TrueSoulEnergy
profii
Egix96
scum team 2
Garmr
scum on someones team
SausasaurusRex
Black Ranger
-I’ll put this for each message I post. (Who ever replaces me MUST scum read Nero!)
What's the meaning of wheel here?In post 542, kagesong wrote:The wheels from NC and KM. The one's me and NC are debating.
How would it even be a Town slip?In post 551, Nero Cain wrote:is this a fake town slip?In post 549, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Since when is there more then 1 Mafia Team?
“Fail to lynch you”In post 550, Nero Cain wrote:if you are wanting to replace out stop posting if you want to stay stay and try and fail to lynch me.
Yeah, your reads are bad and you should feel bad. Unless you are scum ofc.In post 534, Nero Cain wrote:says the guy defending the snork out of scum profii and TSE.In post 531, The Fonz wrote:Yeah, I wouldn't count on that, you're getting lynched before he is.
How often have you played with Hectic dave? What discussion do you hope to generate with a gobble vote?In post 417, davesaz wrote:Here's a game where Hectic was way different D1.
I disapprove equally of hyperposting and hyperghosting.
VOTE: gobble
to generate some discussion
Vote Nero then.In post 559, The Fonz wrote:Yeah, your reads are bad and you should feel bad. Unless you are scum ofc.In post 534, Nero Cain wrote:says the guy defending the snork out of scum profii and TSE.In post 531, The Fonz wrote:Yeah, I wouldn't count on that, you're getting lynched before he is.
Yeah my bad.
3-4 of my most recent games, though one of them was hydra and therefore doesn't weigh as much.In post 560, AaronFrost wrote:How often have you played with Hectic dave? What discussion do you hope to generate with a gobble vote?In post 417, davesaz wrote:Here's a game where Hectic was way different D1.
I disapprove equally of hyperposting and hyperghosting.
VOTE: gobble
to generate some discussion
Doing this is scummy but admitting to it is perversely town.In post 565, Garmr wrote:I don't know what to think of fonz anymore. I noticed myself looking for reasons to scum read him when I tried to give a reread so my bias seems to tilt that way.
I don't think you know what that means.In post 553, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: He’s Flailing.
but its irrelevant pushback.The fact that Nero never even said his take on how many scum he thinks are on MY wagon.
how do you know the alignments of other players?In post 559, The Fonz wrote:Yeah, your reads are bad and you should feel bad. Unless you are scum ofc.
So then you don’t think I was wrong on the scum on wagon then?In post 568, Nero Cain wrote:I don't think you know what that means.In post 553, TrueSoulEnergy wrote: He’s Flailing.
but its irrelevant pushback.The fact that Nero never even said his take on how many scum he thinks are on MY wagon.
In 149 you said youKNEWthat a very specific number of scum were pushing you and I pushed you on that.
Fonz (and insom kinda) is saying that its overconfidence that made you post a post were you accused yourself of getting bussed.
I mean later you go on to say that it was more than just me that was scum on your wagon but yeah.
I was calling insomnia and Garnr scum so 2 IG.
Posting reads lists like that, at least to me, is a good way to make yourself look busy without actually doing anything or participating in discussion, which is scummy. I think it's also unreasonable to have reads on every single player who's posted up until now which is why it looks especially faked in a game of this size.In post 468, Nero Cain wrote:but there are plenty of town that post reasonless read list. Mastina for instance.