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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:24 am
by osuka
Could we have a mafia tracker? I genuinely have no clue what the fuck this setup is

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:25 am
by osuka
But like still why would you have a maf tracker with 3 ICs? I can’t imagine town having too many power roles here

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:49 am
by Truth
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roleblocker
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Ninja

I looked at the wiki pages for Roleblocker and Ninja, and they both say it is a role that is usually found in the Mafia's hands. I think bugspray may be telling the truth about their role but they are also mafia.

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:51 am
by Truth
If there are other innocent children, I think they should not green themselves. This is why I think we should have executed bugspray before instead of waiting, because now mafia has more information about the town's power roles.

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:06 am
by Gypyx
ok so let's think about the setup

with 3 IC's, we probably only have the room for one Medium-high powered role or 2 relatively weak pr's

so, can bugspray be that remaining PR?

a roleblocker would probably mean that there isn't any kind of additional power in town, so therefore the ninja would have to either be :

modWifom trying to make bug think threre's a Action Investigative town role (unlikely, after all we have 3 fucking IC's)

Straight up ModWifom that doesn't mean anything : unrealistic, NK15's setup mostly rely around themes, and i don't see pointless wifom fitting in there

or a way to counter a mafia tracker / watcher, but that would mean that this would be a useless maf pr, and while this is a possibility, i personally think it's highly unlikely

therefore odds are very high that bug is scum, if that's not the case we should look for tracker / watcher crumbs, as those have some decent chances of being maf

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:08 am
by Gypyx
also, please not that bugspray is at exe-2, not -1

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:12 am
by superbowl9
Oops you right

VOTE: bugspray

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:22 am
by Psyche
also ready to hammer before deadline i suppose

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:23 am
by Truth
chkflip, are you okay with claiming before bugspray is executed? The person you replaced was suspicious and acting like mafia, and then they stopped posting after I asked them a difficult question.

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:33 am
by osuka
In post 558, Truth wrote:chkflip, are you okay with claiming before bugspray is executed? The person you replaced was suspicious and acting like mafia, and then they stopped posting after I asked them a difficult question.
lol if we had more time in the day id start tunneling you rather than waiting to hammer bugspray

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:23 am
by Psyche
pls chkflip no

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:03 am
by Gypyx
Truth, problem is that even if they're actually scum, a claim serves no prupose, so please, let him go without claim and go do other stuff

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:32 am
by LicketyQuickety
Can someone tell me why people stopped voting Psyche?

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:37 am
by chkflip
I lol'd. Thanks for that.

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:40 am
by Gypyx
Psyche is an IC, and so if Walter

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:18 am
by bugspray
In post 558, Truth wrote:chkflip, are you okay with claiming before bugspray is executed? The person you replaced was suspicious and acting like mafia, and then they stopped posting after I asked them a difficult question.
convenient

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:28 am
by Truth
In post 561, Gypyx wrote:Truth, problem is that even if they're actually scum, a claim serves no prupose, so please, let him go without claim and go do other stuff
The purpose would be that he can not as mafia change his claim later and has to dedicate himself to a role now which would be bad for him. Glitch in my first game acted similarly to him and he was talking about how he was going to claim 'even night loyal doctor'.

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:51 am
by Gypyx
problem is, you're assuming that a claim would put him in a bad postion, which is wrong, we know a heavy part of town's power so there's no way that this claim makes him go in a bad spot, cuz scum is just gonna claim VT or they are somehow aware that an even better fakeClaim exists

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:07 am
by osuka
In post 566, Truth wrote:
In post 561, Gypyx wrote:Truth, problem is that even if they're actually scum, a claim serves no prupose, so please, let him go without claim and go do other stuff
The purpose would be that he can not as mafia change his claim later and has to dedicate himself to a role now which would be bad for him. Glitch in my first game acted similarly to him and he was talking about how he was going to claim 'even night loyal doctor'.
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your thought process really needs to be studied

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:11 am
by osuka
like the more i think about 566, the less it makes sense

there is not a single shred of reason in that post. I cannot fathom a single reasonable thought process that would lead anyone to that conclusion

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:56 am
by Psyche
i used to play mafia on a forum for the yugioh trading card game so i do get it, this idea that forcing someone into a role claim constrains their later options. truth is just not weighting the value of this tiny, tiny constraint against the disvalue of a potential townie's role being outed

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:56 am
by bugspray
In post 566, Truth wrote:
In post 561, Gypyx wrote:Truth, problem is that even if they're actually scum, a claim serves no prupose, so please, let him go without claim and go do other stuff
The purpose would be that he can not as mafia change his claim later and has to dedicate himself to a role now which would be bad for him. Glitch in my first game acted similarly to him and he was talking about how he was going to claim 'even night loyal doctor'.
you quote a post that genders me correctly and then proceed to misgender me
VOTE: truth
@mod I dayvig truth

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:57 am
by osuka
why are you pretending to be dayvig

you're just being annoying at this point

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:26 am
by Gypyx
not to point out that bugspray had nothing to do with my post but k

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:59 pm
by LicketyQuickety
In post 564, Gypyx wrote:Psyche is an IC
Based on what?