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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:49 am
by lilith2013
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Gamma Emerald | None | EL-7 | 3 | 2 | 4 | Gamma Emerald |
SirCakez | None | EL-7 | 2 | 3 | 3 | SirCakez |
CreativeMod1 | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | CreativeMod1 |
Albert B. Rampage | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Albert B. Rampage |
Pine | SirCakez, Gamma Emerald | EL-5 | 3 | 3 | 4 | Pine |
Bingle | PenguinPower, Fun and Games, CreativeMod1 | EL-4 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Bingle |
Nosferatu | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 1 | Nosferatu |
I Keep Siteflaking | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | I Keep Siteflaking |
PenguinPower | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | PenguinPower |
Fun and Games | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Fun and Games |
Ydrasse | None | EL-7 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Ydrasse |
beeboy | Bingle, Albert B. Rampage | EL-5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | beeboy |
Not Voting | Pine, Nosferatu, I Keep Siteflaking, Ydrasse, beeboy |
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.
Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-11 20:28:04) |
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pagetops: Lilith 8 | penguin 8 | cm1 2 | ABR 1 | gamma 1 | gb 1 | fun & games 1 |
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:53 am
by I Keep Siteflaking
In post 545, Gamma Emerald wrote:So I have an ability that let’s me “activate or destroy a lab without using a night action”. Now, why would my role say activate when I’m Town? My guess is scum has the same power on one of them. Since this action still requires a knowledge roll, I’m inclined to suspect anyone with elevated knowledge during N1, as they would have probably done so in order to be able to activate labs easier. The only person alive during N1 with increased knowledge was Pine. So I am going to
VOTE: Pine
And Pine was the consensus scumread I was talking about.
In post 7, lilith2013 wrote:Each player's life story and background provides them with a
unique
special ability called a Career, which is not linked to their alignment. (See sample role PM below.)
So it seems that backgrounds were distributed without looking at one's alignment.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:01 am
by CreativeMod1
See I still don't quite believe that cos otherwise you could end up with a scum who is a cop or a town who is a roomblocker (which whilst yes possible, I don't think would be too helpful for their own team)
I still think that it's more of the background and story isn't alignment based, I still think the career is
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:11 am
by Bingle
In post 548, CreativeMod1 wrote:Also, yes I can prove a second exploration, I won't say exactly how unless pushed but I can prove it
If it is "I was the one to find the gymnasium/lab/blahblahblah" do so now, because that proof becomes useless when we have more dead people who might have done that thing and your being cc'd becomes less and less probable if you're fakeclaiming. Otherwise, I'll have to get back to you sometime this day phase, because I have a busy day today and can't think it all the way through atm.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:16 am
by Bingle
In post 548, CreativeMod1 wrote:What I'm trying to say is IF Scum!Bingle hard defending Town!CM1 and then Bingle flips as being scum then there's a lot of sus now on CM1...but I will say is that yet again you haven't answered the question I asked you now twice, I don't understand what your logic was back then and I still don't
If ScumBingle -> Bingle knows GB won't flip scum.
If Bingle knows GB is town -> GB scumflip cannot happen.
If GB scumflip cannot happen -> cmod town if GB scum isn't actually defending you when we were about to eliminate GB.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:17 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 547, Bingle wrote:
Interesting. That’s +equity for small town. Also Pine is a scumread?
I think on a preponderance of evidence from my own role information and the events of N1 shows Pine has a good chance to be scum. I could also see him being scum by play, but mechanics was the driving element here.
@IKS acknowledged, however there’s still the fact 2 labs were activated, I suspect Pine may have used his elevated knowledge to do so, since while the exact details aren’t disclosed I know scum still need to do a knowledge roll to activate labs, seeing as it’s required in the role portion I described.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:21 am
by Bingle
In post 269, GeorgeBailey wrote: In post 163, CreativeMod1 wrote:VOTE: Nosferatu
I also didn't catch this in the rules, but if doctors have an ability relating to reducing down their knowledge for something then it's kinda sus that someone has lower knowledge and I'd like to get to the bottom of this
In post 164, CreativeMod1 wrote:UNVOTE: nosferatu
I probably should've actually reread the rules before replying
It seems more like nosferatu was subject to an attack by the doctors
I think this might be Town!CM indicative.
Looking at CM's meta, I can seem to find a single scum game, so if he were to roll it, it would be one of his first time playing. I don't think this slip up comes from Newb Scum.
In post 293, GeorgeBailey wrote: In post 272, Bingle wrote:Do you think there is a quantity of games played as town/modded that makes you not newbscum or is it just a function of actually playing as scum, GB?
I feel like after 3 or so scum games, people usually iron out suspicious behaviors as scum. Like being overly defensive, copying reads list, forced scum hunting, fence sitting, etc. So, both?
This stance did not strike me as S/S nor did the F&G interaction with GB on page 14. I never elaborated because those observations are now useless. They weren't S/S, because one of the participants flipped town.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:22 am
by Bingle
In post 555, Gamma Emerald wrote:scum still need to do a knowledge roll to activate labs, seeing as it’s required in the role portion I described.
I missed this the first time and it is SPICY.
what roll is required?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:24 am
by Gamma Emerald
I’m not informed what number they need, just that it’s a Knowledge check
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:25 am
by Bingle
In post 548, CreativeMod1 wrote:Finally I've just had a thought, when we get round to voting someone off, if said player is a town player then I highly suggest they send their items to whoever they think is the towniest player....if we leave it on the floor then there's a chance that scum will be able to pick it up (likewise if you have a daytime ability, use it before you die)
Eh.
If the item is really good, sure. Otherwise, having a collection of garbage on the floor gives us the option of leashing actions to picking garbage off of the floor, since it has a visible effect.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:27 am
by Bingle
Explicitly though you can activate labs? Can you ask what number you would need?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:27 am
by Gamma Emerald
I never thought to try that actually
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:33 am
by Bingle
In post 420, Bingle wrote: In post 391, Fun and Games wrote:I don't understand why people are reading anything into careers as it is stated by mod to be unrelated to our actual alignments
I firmly disagree with this interpretation, FWIW, because the game is nominally balanced and we already have claims that have a distinct difference in power as town or scum.
There is a chance it means that roles and alignments were randomized independently, but more likely it just means that if someone’s role is healing or knowledge based that doesn’t automatically make them scum.
In post 551, I Keep Siteflaking wrote: In post 545, Gamma Emerald wrote:So I have an ability that let’s me “activate or destroy a lab without using a night action”. Now, why would my role say activate when I’m Town? My guess is scum has the same power on one of them. Since this action still requires a knowledge roll, I’m inclined to suspect anyone with elevated knowledge during N1, as they would have probably done so in order to be able to activate labs easier. The only person alive during N1 with increased knowledge was Pine. So I am going to
VOTE: Pine
And Pine was the consensus scumread I was talking about.
In post 7, lilith2013 wrote:Each player's life story and background provides them with a
unique
special ability called a Career, which is not linked to their alignment. (See sample role PM below.)
So it seems that backgrounds were distributed without looking at one's alignment.
While it is possible that we're in a smalltown situation (and gamma's claim made that possibility rise) balancing a setup where role and alignment are distributed separately is much, much harder than balancing a setup where town has scummy roles and scum has towny roles. The latter is still the more likely interpretation imo.
Also, cmod, we almost certainly don't have a cop, as I mentioned earlier.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:37 am
by Bingle
In post 534, I Keep Siteflaking wrote:I don't think eliminating Bingle early is wise. He has a tendency of carrying town with mechanics. Regardless of his alignment.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:18 am
by PenguinPower
In post 562, Bingle wrote:Also, cmod, we almost certainly don't have a cop, as I mentioned earlier.
I'm a cop of unknown sanity.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:06 am
by I Keep Siteflaking
VOTE: pine
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:06 am
by Fun and Games
VOTE: abr
Again
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:20 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 560, Bingle wrote:
Explicitly though you can activate labs? Can you ask what number you would need?
I just checked and it’s a doctors only thing
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:57 am
by Bingle
A50 is scum, you're naive.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:08 am
by PenguinPower
VOTE: ABR
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:19 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 545, Gamma Emerald wrote:So I have an ability that let’s me “activate or destroy a lab without using a night action”. Now, why would my role say activate when I’m Town? My guess is scum has the same power on one of them. Since this action still requires a knowledge roll, I’m inclined to suspect anyone with elevated knowledge during N1, as they would have probably done so in order to be able to activate labs easier. The only person alive during N1 with increased knowledge was Pine. So I am going to
VOTE: Pine
And Pine was the consensus scumread I was talking about.
Good point. You have my vote.
VOTE: Pine
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:20 am
by Albert B. Rampage
Pine needs to explain his knowledge +1.
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:11 pm
by PenguinPower
It's now D2.
wut up tree?
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:45 pm
by SirCakez
VOTE: Pine
I believe Gamma's claim
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:46 pm
by SirCakez
oh I was already voting him lmao