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Posted: **Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:46 pm**

VoteCount 1.16

No Elim [2]

sircakez titus

murdercat [1]

PookyTheMagicalBear

akarin [1]

flea the magician

blitzo [1]

drippinggoofball

Flea the magician [1]

Haschel Cedricson

Alisae [1]

xRECKONERx

thegoldenparadox [1]

akarin

Sircakez [1]

murdercat

pookythemagicalbear [1]

OutWorldER

xRECKONERx [1]

Gamma Emerald

titus[1]

bell

Not Voting [5]

Blitzo, alisae, Battle Mage, taly, thegoldenparadox

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to be executed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-12-08 15:40:31)

Posted: **Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:48 pm**

I agree with bell's gut

my doggo friend is green this game

Posted: **Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:49 pm**

I think multiple doggos are green

Posted: **Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:50 pm**

our townbloc is pretty big for this early in the game

Posted: **Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:58 pm**

That’s the 2020 town winning strategy

Posted: **Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:20 pm**

Hi.
Will be catching up either later or tomorrow.
Is there anything in particular anyone would like me to look at?

Posted: **Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:22 pm**

claim your rooms and tasks b4 u ghost us

Posted: **Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:42 pm**

In post 544, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also reminding people Reck scumslipped in a post

Point this out to me.

Also Reck is the only person talking any sense right now; I too have already decided which room I'm going to tonight. I'll let you know where it is tomorrow.

Posted: **Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:25 pm**

VOTE: titus

Posted: **Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:49 pm**

In post 484, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 229, OutWorldER wrote:VOTE: Pooky

Pooky/Alisae are scum.

Immediately trying to get town to divulge all the information scum could possibly want, pushing NE's so they don't have to face any possible pressure, and distracting town away from actual scumhunting with our alternate win condition.

All of this is a favorable game-state for scum, not town. Town should want the locations they have to go to be secret so that scum can't plan where they're going without making reads (outside of circumstances were Town should want to team up with other Town in a hood.) Town should want scum elims for obvious reasons AND to reduce likelihood of the big scary extra kill. Town will still want regular elims for the reasons we always want regular elims. Tasks become distributable anyways when they die and we can push the public tasks to people who are widely TR'd and already going to the same location (which would be a scenario we'd actually want to have people claiming tasks.)

Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Please stop falling for scum ploys to give them a favorable gamestate.
How do YOU know what scum wants? Also we want SCUM to take tasks, not town, so suggesting obvtown take them is a horrible move.

Experience. Educated Guessing. Common Sense. All things that let me figure out what scum would probably want to do.

The scum taking tasks things sounds nice in theory but in reality your essentially hoping you guessed right on alignment with no flip (and if the person who takes them isn't scum and doesn't have a task in the same location as the task your taking your only further tanking efficiency, not increasing it.)

Posted: **Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:52 pm**

I'll go along with a Titus wagon for now.

VOTE: Titus

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:01 am**

In post 544, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also reminding people Reck scumslipped in a post

Which post was the scumslip? Are you talking about 121?

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:08 am**

In post 472, Alisae wrote:
In post 467, Titus wrote:My brain hurts. I have zero idea on how to approach this day play without wagons. My data is my crutch.

I kinda like Taly though.
you might get your wagons later if thats something we're doing

yo

ali

where the wagons at or where the discussion for them at

how do you feel about the plist lumping you and

pooky

in the same vein together and by extension, how i am a contributor to that perception?

In post 504, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Hot take: The entire scum team hasn’t claimed locations yet because they are waiting to figure out what to do.

i feel like this take is a bit easy

pooky

, i have made posts toward you

*attacks*

In post 534, DrippingGoofball wrote:What us the consensus? Are we all claiming? Will we know if the scum kids?

what is

YOUR

consensus and are

YOU

claiming?

In post 549, Bell wrote:Gut. Also not sure town Titus would go this route usually, though that’s more of a guess then something i’m confident in.

you feel like you have more life here than the one reference i have of which i cannot mention.

do you have reliable meta with

titus

?

In post 553, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:our townbloc is pretty big for this early in the game

yall form reads quicker than i do in larges, man.

is the townbloc just based around how compliant people have been with your mechanical approach?

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:30 am**

im fine with people knowing where my destinations are.

id love a group joining me, the more the merrier

for no lim, im going where the plist goes, tbh.
the reasons i give will not advance discussion and will probably just create wine.

how about you guys ask me questions?

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:39 am**

I've landed on, it's good for some people/locations to be outed but not all. People then know where to go to group up, but scum doesn't have all the info. Themewise, grouping up is probably a good strategy so I encourage people who don't want to claim to consider where the people who are claiming go.

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:43 am**

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORNIN CREW!

Spoiler: Catchup wall

In post 431, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 134, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:scum can only use the bonus NK on someone in a room if they are in the room with that person AND there are no other town in that room.

so if there r 2 town in a room, a bonus NK can't happen in that room.

also when someone dies, their tasks become open to be claimed, so that sets us back, hence why I said more alive townies = faster task completion
couldn't scum just not speak and not reveal they're in the room at night

I'd imagine it gets declared in the PT?

In post 438, Alisae wrote:What if scum could move someone from one room to another
that would actually be kinda fucked.

That'd be a cool mechanic

kinda blows the plans out of the water though :/

In post 446, MURDERCAT wrote:I agree that it is probably not going to be a good idea to no elim
We definitely will be required to scum hunt

But there is still a possibility of a day 1 no elim being useful. Also in general I prefer to talk these things out. So yeah I get what you are doing and I'm probably on board but also thinking about all of it is still good.

Given the nature of the basic game we're playing here, I'd agree. Pushin a task win would be far too easy without imposters being able to massively sabotage something. (⊹◕ʖ̯◕)

(•ө•)Polly wants a cracker (•ө•)

In post 451, Akarin wrote:I think OutWorldER is being far too
dogmatic

」(￣▽￣」)

In post 458, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 453, Akarin wrote:@Gamma

Is there any sort of thing we can say that would help you with future post restrictions? A list of quotable sentences?

Ignore this if you aren't allowed to say.
Honestly if everyone just posts a few larger content posts I should be fine.

Larger you say? ლ(｀∀´ლ) mwaaahahaaahahahahahahahaahhahahahahahaha*coughspluttercough*
ahem ^_^

In post 467, Titus wrote:My brain hurts. I have zero idea on how to approach this day play without wagons. My data is my crutch.

I kinda like Taly though.

Make a wagon! VOTE: Titus (｀∀´)Ψ

In post 473, Akarin wrote:Is anyone actually opposed to the idea of deliberately traveling in groups to our room for the nights?

I'm not sure if the people objecting to claims are objecting to that part too?

Sounds good to me ^_^ done my claim too. Storage and security.

In post 476, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 201, Alisae wrote:I think allowing the opportunity for scum to get an extra kill is important
we also shouldn't be sending anyone that's too important if we do try to create opportunities for scum to kill. Town can benefit off of a townie that needs to be sorted dieing.

I'm not sure on this though.
Yeah when I proposed the buddy system I wasn’t factoring in that scum had a vanilla NK too
I think the optimal move would just be towny people with other towny people, and vice versa. Essentially play this like a dance game.

we're getting dance partners?! OwO

*looks at the player list* ... *claims murder gato*

Mine! ✧♡(◕‿◕✿)

In post 483, Akarin wrote:
In post 481, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 210, Flea The Magician wrote:
Why didn’t you press Flea on the vote, Akarin?
Because Flea did it after.

What did I do again? 210 was my game entry and RVS?

In post 486, Gamma Emerald wrote:Flea had the same intent. Why is it deifferent if it comes after? That seems a bit dishonest to push one and not the other.

I forgot what I did... I gotta ISO myself now don't I... nope still dunno what I did.

In post 489, Akarin wrote:
In post 486, Gamma Emerald wrote:Flea had the same intent. Why is it deifferent if it comes after? That seems a bit dishonest to push one and not the other.
Flea did a big catchup post, if they really cared about getting the pass from you that much they could have just made that joke before doing it.

... Is this about gamma vented?

In post 491, Alisae wrote:is it just me or is gamma obvtowning it up

Yup.

*yoinks Gamma*

Also mine! (ノ〝∩｡∩)ﾉ

In post 494, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 489, Akarin wrote:
In post 486, Gamma Emerald wrote:Flea had the same intent. Why is it deifferent if it comes after? That seems a bit dishonest to push one and not the other.
Flea did a big catchup post, if they really cared about getting the pass from you that much they could have just made that joke before doing it.
That checks out actually. Time would have been of the essence.

You know I just spew my brain with little care for how I'm read anyway

In post 496, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 261, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also I think groups of 3 should work for trying to keep scum from killing
Maybe have 2 groups of 2 to deal with the last one tonight?
Honestly this seems like a very solid plan
2/4 scummiest players pair off into 1/2 rooms, the rest go in groups of three. This handles any size amount of people going into a night phase.

Gotta admire the confidence (✿ ♥‿♥)

In post 504, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Hot take: The entire scum team hasn’t claimed locations yet because they are waiting to figure out what to do.

Blitzo, reckoner, tgp, hasch, dgb, ower, cakez, akarin and bell... hmmm. …(。。*)

In post 511, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 504, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Hot take: The entire scum team hasn’t claimed locations yet because they are waiting to figure out what to do.
i am literally not claiming locations or tasks today so yeet me or stop blustering

Y E E T

nah this seems town to me. the open defiance

In post 522, Titus wrote:If we go the no elimination route, BM, Gamma and I should take the task of whomever dies. We can split up the tasks so that we can complete them tomorrow night.

towncred attempt with buddying? (ԾεԾ|||)

In post 524, xRECKONERx wrote:i will, under no circumstances, "do what I'm told" lmfao

yup. town.

In post 537, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 442, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 441, OutWorldER wrote:MC sell me on these reads you had earlier. Also tell me who you want to wagon right now and if you're willing to join me on a Pooky wagon.
It seems like the most relevant one is Pooky, who I think is starting the game more closely to how he did in death curse than in 2170. I'm not gonna like hard commit to anything though
Okay yeah Pooky locktown
Pooky’s early game is like his most readable, but the thing is my methods absolutely will not work even if my current meta line of thought on him is right because of the type of game this is (also fuck off Reck I know you dislike meta but it IS useful and you’re an old crab)

Disagree on the locktown. 2 people have concerns over their plan and both met with heavy resistance.

In post 540, xRECKONERx wrote: scum absolutely 100% have powers/ways to fuck with room assignments. there are vents to hop between rooms unseen. there are sabotages to force people to specific rooms or we lose the game. etc. tons of mechanics that are THEMATICALLY SPOT-ON that would fuck us with a mass claim. especially once scum know exactly where everybody has to go to complete tasks, they can use their bullshit to fuck with us in a major way

Skeld

Room locks, O2, reactor, comms and lights.

MIRA HQ

O2, reactor, comms and lights sabotage.

Polus

Door locks have to manually undone, lights, comms, seismic stabilisers.

take yo pick.

In post 544, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also reminding people Reck scumslipped in a post

Where o.o

In post 553, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:our townbloc is pretty big for this early in the game

Theres a townblock? O.O

In post 557, Haschel Cedricson wrote:
In post 544, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also reminding people Reck scumslipped in a post
Point this out to me.

Also Reck is the only person talking any sense right now; I too have already decided which room I'm going to tonight. I'll let you know where it is tomorrow.

3 dissenters...

In post 558, Battle Mage wrote:VOTE: titus

Someones wearing his birthday suit....

TAAAALLLLLYYYYYYYY!
1) How are you?
2) Who is your worst read at the moment?
3) Is there anything so far you disagree with?
4) Why are you upside down? ( ͜。 ͡ʖ ͜。)

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:50 am**

In post 528, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: reckoner
Nah, not letting you act like you’re willing to play ball and then try to run away with it when you realize you have to play fair

In post 543, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 457, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 121, xRECKONERx wrote:oh, not eliminating anyone to give us time to do tasks is pretty smart actually? i think?
How’d you know that came up?
And yeah why the fuck are you okay with the no elim but not the plan portion?
VOTE: Reckoner
TGP you had a point about looking at who supported what.

Don't like these votes at all

Titus wagon feels scum driven

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:00 am**

murderkitties

, i like your 563 but i feel like your 365 went a bit hard onto a slot relatively early for the games pace

how has your

cakez

read progressed?

In post 565, Flea The Magician wrote: TAAAALLLLLYYYYYYYY!
1) How are you?
2) Who is your worst read at the moment?
3) Is there anything so far you disagree with?
4) Why are you upside down? ( ͜。 ͡ʖ ͜。)

1)

good, bout to get to college work, need to stop letting mafia distract haha

2)

no particular scumreads... need to reread

TGP

because they did not pass the vibe check.

alisae

passed the vibe check but not yet the deepwolf check. i think you are quite fluffy even with your wall, tbh - i want more concrete statements from you.

pooky

feels agenda-y but that doesnt ping me by itself.
i think the amount of times

reck

comes into this thread only to say

"i wont read and i denounce the threads mentality"

is genuine BUT is being used deflectively.
actually did not care for this readslist from

BM

In post 287, Battle Mage wrote:i think it's most likely that Alisae is town and Titus is scum. Akarin town, Pooky town, Cakez town.

felt very early to make reads on these players, at least mostly town-ones.

id rather

BM

just explain these reads. i think

OWER

prodded them at some point but if they replied, the answer wasnt noticeable enough for me to see it.

(maybe OWER prodded murderkitties instead)

3)

disagreement is not the correct word... more cautiously inquisitive. this town did not have a very cohesive start with everything considered.

4)

why i am upside down you ask?
my nails are lavender D:< not as red as my role PM or as green as what id want to brag they be.

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:01 am**

In post 566, SirCakez wrote:
In post 528, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: reckoner
Nah, not letting you act like you’re willing to play ball and then try to run away with it when you realize you have to play fair

In post 543, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 457, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 121, xRECKONERx wrote:oh, not eliminating anyone to give us time to do tasks is pretty smart actually? i think?
How’d you know that came up?
And yeah why the fuck are you okay with the no elim but not the plan portion?
VOTE: Reckoner
TGP you had a point about looking at who supported what.
Don't like these votes at all

Titus wagon feels scum driven

nani

so both

reck/titus

have poor votes pledged against them?

what is a good vote rn, if no limming was not an option for you?

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:09 am**

In post 567, Taly wrote:murderkitties, i like your 563 but i feel like your 365 went a bit hard onto a slot relatively early for the games pace

how has your cakez read progressed?

lol I'm dumb

Basically that, I misinterpreted what he was saying

But I'm still voting there, I have him on the ropes! Caught for the wrong reasons!!

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:10 am**

In post 567, Taly wrote:
murderkitties
, i like your 563 but i feel like your 365 went a bit hard onto a slot relatively early for the games pace

how has your
cakez
read progressed?

In post 565, Flea The Magician wrote: TAAAALLLLLYYYYYYYY!
1) How are you?
2) Who is your worst read at the moment?
3) Is there anything so far you disagree with?
4) Why are you upside down? ( ͜。 ͡ʖ ͜。)

1)
good, bout to get to college work, need to stop letting mafia distract haha

2)
no particular scumreads... need to reread
TGP
because they did not pass the vibe check.
alisae
passed the vibe check but not yet the deepwolf check. i think you are quite fluffy even with your wall, tbh - i want more concrete statements from you.

pooky
feels agenda-y but that doesnt ping me by itself.
i think the amount of times
reck
comes into this thread only to say
"i wont read and i denounce the threads mentality"
is genuine BUT is being used deflectively.
actually did not care for this readslist from
BM

In post 287, Battle Mage wrote:i think it's most likely that Alisae is town and Titus is scum. Akarin town, Pooky town, Cakez town.
felt very early to make reads on these players, at least mostly town-ones.

id rather
BM
just explain these reads. i think
OWER
prodded them at some point but if they replied, the answer wasnt noticeable enough for me to see it.
(maybe OWER prodded murderkitties instead)

3)
disagreement is not the correct word... more cautiously inquisitive. this town did not have a very cohesive start with everything considered.

4)
why i am upside down you ask?
my nails are lavender D:< not as red as my role PM or as green as what id want to brag they be.

Congratz you passed my vibe check ╭( ･ㅂ･)و ̑̑

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:18 am**

actually you know what

unless

the scumteam or most of the scumteam is

{pooky/ali/BM/OWER}

, this game does not seem hard.

by extension, i think this group of 4 players are either majority-town or majority-scum

(3:1) (1:3) or (4:0)

probably will get to ISOing somewhere about that at some point.

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:22 am**

Can you explain that a bit more, why those 4 in particular

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:23 am**

In post 568, Taly wrote:
In post 566, SirCakez wrote:
In post 528, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: reckoner
Nah, not letting you act like you’re willing to play ball and then try to run away with it when you realize you have to play fair

In post 543, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 457, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 121, xRECKONERx wrote:oh, not eliminating anyone to give us time to do tasks is pretty smart actually? i think?
How’d you know that came up?
And yeah why the fuck are you okay with the no elim but not the plan portion?
VOTE: Reckoner
TGP you had a point about looking at who supported what.
Don't like these votes at all

Titus wagon feels scum driven
nani

so both
reck/titus
have poor votes pledged against them?

what is a good vote rn, if no limming was not an option for you?

I probably would vote Gamma - those Reck votes are the first thing to really ping me this game

Posted: **Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:23 am**

I still am not interested in an elim and no one else should be either

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