Open 821 | Fall With Your Friends | Endgame

[Infinity 324]

Absolute

[Something_Smart]

Hm. I'm usually skeptical of absolute read deteriorations, because if his early posts were unlikely to come from scum then they were unlikely to come from scum, period, no matter what happens after.

(Of course it's different if what they did after was actively SCUMMY, but I don't think not being as solve-y is that?)

[Prism]

Long layover so I'll try to put in some effort in a few hours, no promises b/c no sleep and want to nap

But if there's anything specific someone thinks I should look at lmk

[Infinity 324]

I do think not being solvy is actively scummy, but it's pretty weakly so. I think it's mostly a matter of I expected murder to keep up the solviness, which was influencing my townread of him, so I probably shouldn't have had such a strong townread on him to begin with.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Hard to solve without info

i remember you being apprehensive about my idea of starting to trust people. did i remember right?

[Something_Smart]

I guess that makes sense. I would have framed it more as "I reevaluated my read and the reasons weren't as good as I initially thought." than what you said.

[Prism]

Infinity's last page was super town, I want to say shiki's is too. Pushing me as a top townread isn't exactly damaging as scum given the position she entered the game in but instinctively I really, really want to call her town

In contrast Infinity's borderline throwing as scum so I feel a lot better about her atm

[MURDERCAT]

I do think not being solvy is actively scummy, but it's pretty weakly so. I think it's mostly a matter of I expected murder to keep up the solviness, which was influencing my townread of him, so I probably shouldn't have had such a strong townread on him to begin with.

this is consistent with my scum meta to be fair to infinity, but also I don't think there is much to go on at the moment that is making me change my reads

[MURDERCAT]

Hard to solve without info

i remember you being apprehensive about my idea of starting to trust people. did i remember right?

No actually, it just seemed inconsistent with your previous reaction to page 1. I would be fine with anyone trusting me at the moment

[catboi]

i see catboi hasn't popped the question yet

catboi is there any reason to doubt prism's alignment?

There's always reason to doubt. I haven't actually been exposed to scum-prism in a forum mafia game. It's possible my confidence is entirely ill-founded! (Prism certainly thinks so). But at this point I only held off to make sure no one else was going to raise some objection to this.

is there any reason to doubt prism's alignment?

do you think scum!prism would be more or less likely to express that they were upset with a town/town pairing after witnessing menalque’s reaction to a scum flip in the tarot game?

My thinking was actually similar to this, in that I wouldn't expect Prism to be so unrestrained with their emotions to give a negative reaction to what was objectively a pro-town outcome, albeit one resulting from a very anti-town play.

[humaneatingmonkey]

But at this point I only held off to make sure no one else was going to raise some objection to this.

why would anyone's objection matter if you're confident with your own reads?

[Something_Smart]

I think you can pretty safely trust Prism. If they're scum they're probably going down with a bigger ship than you.

[catboi]

I think this is the right time to do this, I don't want to drag the timer out

too

long:

I trust Prism

Not that I expect you to, but don't accept this if you're town.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Not that I expect you to, but don't accept this if you're town.

CATBOI IS SCUM HAHAHAHAHA

[catboi]

But at this point I only held off to make sure no one else was going to raise some objection to this.

why would anyone's objection matter if you're confident with your own reads?

I'd want to hear people out and work collaboratively? Past runs have been lost by hero-trusts in defiance of the wishes of others.

[catboi]

Not that I expect you to, but don't accept this if you're town.

CATBOI IS SCUM HAHAHAHAHA

[catboi]

I was already pretty explicit with just wanting this to be a "clear" rather than something that leads to a trust, don't see why you have a problem with that line?

[humaneatingmonkey]

Why not?

[catboi]

Why not?

I triple posted, you're going to have to be specific what this was in response to.

[humaneatingmonkey]

why would you not want Prism to trust you?

[catboi]

why would you not want Prism to trust you?

Because even if we were townreading each other, me/prism is boring, stale, old hat, we know each other too well. I'm okay with clearing them, but I want them to branch out, take risks, perhaps make a new friend. I also strongly benefit if they are town and are correct in their townread, then I get to stay in the game and help influence what is hopefully the game-winning pair. Even if we are both town, I don't want to be stripped of my agency in this game.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Ha scum

[catboi]

I am actually distinctly regretting the possibility that I might be encouraging Prism to pair with you.


But then I think about it for a second and I don't see why you bother to slam me like that if you're a short time away from walking out the door and flipping red. So hrm.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Slam

[catboi]

Okay fine you're town for the gif