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i finished my iso and i want to get straight to the point here. i am paranoid but i am pretty damn certain dunn is scum. if dunn flips town here, i will never say im good at reading dunn again.

i dont know what other people's alignments are to any degree of certainty because i know i've been playing scummily and i know mass scumreads on me mess with my reads. but i dont think dunn is town despite all of that. every other read could be completely wrong, we could have 6 scum, but i dont think dunn can be town.

i have been wrong on dunn before but i dont think im wrong here and to be absolutely honest, me saying this will not matter if i die today. because dunn will float straight to endgame and then people will either lose to them or manage to come around to this read.

on the other hand, if dunn is left behind today, i am cleared with a scum flip there since dunn would obviously be a bigger asset to the scum team than me based on the current game state.

also im not going to lie, im quite sure most of my other reads are wrong at this point. the fact that the gamestate looks like this and everything seems to work so perfectly in my head (scum team is perfectly 3 people, everyone else seems towny) means most of my reads are wrong. but the one on dunn isnt.

In post 550, Noraa wrote:i want to get straight to the point here

why is dunn scum

probably not gonna post today

bye

Willingly pairing with me is like offering self as hostage.

In post 554, Datisi wrote:

In post 550, Noraa wrote:i want to get straight to the point here

why is dunn scum

Dunn's just trying too hard to be likable. they're trying too hard to be a good townie and town dunn isnt a good townie. town dunn does their own thing and doesnt care what anyone else thinks.

fire can you not accept that offer quite yet?

In post 558, Noraa wrote:Dunn's just trying too hard to be likable. they're trying too hard to be a good townie and town dunn isnt a good townie. town dunn does their own thing and doesnt care what anyone else thinks.

the issue is the scum!dunn that i know of doesn't actually *do* much of anything so this kinda play feels new to me regardless of his alignment, so it's not something that i can straight up scumread just for being as it

are there any specific posts that made you think dunn is trying to be likeable?

In post 560, Datisi wrote:scum!dunn that i know of doesn't actually *do* much of anything

dunn doesnt really do much regardless of alignment. what's important is how they do the thing sthat they do do.

In post 560, Datisi wrote:are there any specific posts that made you think dunn is trying to be likeable?

yes one second

In post 203, Dunnstral wrote:I don't think Bell looks bad here but I do want to go against the notion that just posting means they can't be scum

I liked that mykonian gave a lot of reads with explanations early on and that it is believable

Noraa is meh because 142 doesn't really make sense, 158 seems to be painting a narrative for something that isn't actually happening which is weird. 177 is also weird because they're not really paying attention to what is being said, which is that they are going to post very little in the pt.

Lukewarm has the worst posts among the gents so far in my opinion. I believe them about their energy level, but they ask a lot of questions that are low impact. Right now if I had to choose between the gents who have posted it would be here unfortunately

I had sort of forgotten what scum dunn looked like for a moment but then i saw this post. There's so much wrong with this one tiny post.
"I dont think Bell looks bad here but ..."
no, town dunn doesnt say that. town dunn just says ok stop with bc about bell posting = bell town

the entire read on me was way too smooth. it was just not worded the way town dunn would do it. town dunn would just say like Noraa isnt paying attention and makes no sense.

the lukewarm read ends wiht "unfortunately" nah there is nothing unfortunate to town dunn about lukewarm dying regardless of lukewarms alignment.

town dunn doesnt soften their stances, if that makes any sense. All of what dunn is doing is not giving firm opinions and the reason is so that everything is still in soft clay form. They can play around with it. if one elimination doesnt work, swap it out for another. that solve doesnt look right? throw a different person in. that is not how town dunn works. town dunn's reads are like BAM this is what i think. Changing an opinion isnt a flow-y process, it's more of a bam this happened do you have an issue with it?

*bs

Noraa’s case on dunn is good enough for me.

people townread softer stances because they dont feel absolute. they dont feel like the person isnt willing to reassess. but town doesnt think about that consciously or subconsciously whereas scum does. scum needs to always have different options on the table because they have many different paths to victory but need to choose wisely otherwise it could be a dead end.

town only has 1 path to victory. town must have the exact scum team dead whereas scum can have any combination mix and match of town dead.

In post 536, Andante wrote:

In post 531, Datisi wrote:

In post 525, Andante wrote:why did enchant wait till pressured to accept? like, I'd have completely understood not wanting to pair.. like "I DON'T TR ENCHANT" "ENCHANT DANCE WITH ME" that's just.. if myko is town, myko leaves first chance they get.... so why would enchant want to pair with myko?? makes no sense to me, but then the pressure and enchant is like "i accept" like, what??

does that make enchant scum for you? because accepting a dance with a partner who outright doesn't townread you feels like a very shitty strategy, especially when your game-gender is in the minority

I'm not certain actually, but there's something about that I really don't like, and that pair could honestly be S/S and I think that's the best explanation for why people are acting like they are here?? idk, I think I'll just be going back to plan of doing nothing till everyone else pairs up then dealing with it

Strange take. I feel like scum myko + scum enchant would want to partner with literally anyone else, so s/s seems like the least logical explanation.

The pairing makes me feel icky, and I could see either one individually as scum, but I cannot picture them as scum together.

In post 540, Prism wrote:maybe

dunnstral/mala
lukewarm/Datisi
cephir/fireisred

luke+ceph swap works too

In post 542, Ydrasse wrote:good vibe pairings

Would like to see both prism and ydra say why they like these pairings.

In post 546, Datisi wrote:luke is the scummiest of the bunch to me currently

But this definitely makes me feel less inclined to pair with datisi now

i also feel like another thing dunn is doing is like saying really obvious things.
like saying thinks like "prism is doing this ... which makes me nervous"
and the thnig is that i think that would be somethign that is obvious to town dunn. like town dunn would just be like uhh prism is doing this and expect that you could tell they take issue with it.

agh i am genuinely so paranoid i need a hydra buddy more than ever right now but i really really think dunn is scum and it's agh. i dont know im very nervous to be wrong because im under pressure and my reads tend to break under pressure but i genuinely feel like this is right.

In post 559, Noraa wrote:fire can you not accept that offer quite yet?

yea, but i probably will eventually

In post 571, fireisredsir wrote:

In post 559, Noraa wrote:fire can you not accept that offer quite yet?

yea, but i probably will eventually

ok thats fine.

In post 569, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 546, Datisi wrote:luke is the scummiest of the bunch to me currently

But this definitely makes me feel less inclined to pair with datisi now

if you want to try to sell me on someone else being scum, you are more than welcome to do so!!!

and @noraa thank you, i will read that Soon

I am a professional at getting a scum read and then tunneling so hard I end up in an alternate universe where they’re scum every time.

So I understand the pressure Noraa. But when you present yourself as the X-player whisperer you gotta deliver.
And you tried to deliver here and that’s somethin’