In post 540, Bellaphant wrote:@frogstar, more reads! I can't get my head around the g.e hydra, I don't town read pp, ceph can be day one town, I've read some Malcolm games and they seemed quite lim baity, often for tone, enchant is probably town.
Happy to answer any questions!
Do you have anything for me CSF? You were a weird null for me
In post 326, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Frogster's obviously scum but can we pretend we don't know that for the next 4 days to get some more info out of him before we inevitably feed him to the polar bears?
Honestly this? It's silly, it made Me laugh and it vibes with where I was at the time? They also seem to be sounding a bunch of people out and feel confident in a way that seems townie.
In post 457, Bellaphant wrote:Like I'm giving Roden a pass for today for his spoiler for similar reasons.
I can see the ceph thing but think their first interactions with you/rad was weak. Pp I'm not convinced on.
Like these are simultaneously odd reasons yet believable to me
Maybe 527 too
You know something funny is that a long time ago, Klick said my playstyle (on a dif account in Team Mafia) reminded him of Bella's
In post 533, Bell wrote:That would be Galron’s responsibility, not mine, silly.
I don't think I did anything to piss off Galron, because I don't think Galron has a false sense of entitlement. I think if they appeared pissed off then they are likely acting.
One of my improv teachers explained to us one day: "remember in improv we have four emotions: mad, sad, glad and afra'ad!"
Haha. I must be super depressed today because I didn’t laugh at this.
Uh, probably a failure of imagination, they might not even admit to it or I could be totally wrong. Since explaining your own morality can be awkward. Best just to hide it and pretend it’s something else.
Bell what are on earth are you trying to communicate here? Please for the love of God rewrite 539.
In post 540, Bellaphant wrote:@frogstar, more reads! I can't get my head around the g.e hydra, I don't town read pp, ceph can be day one town, I've read some Malcolm games and they seemed quite lim baity, often for tone, enchant is probably town.
Happy to answer any questions!
Do you have anything for me CSF? You were a weird null for me
Can you elaborate on the Ceph and the Enchant town reads?
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:47 am
by Bell
I’ve made posts like Galron’s as town. It’s trying to take away your sense of efficacy because you did something they didn’t approve of.
Also, frog, if you don’t think you have sharp edges I have a bridge to sell you.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:48 am
by Bell
Even if you softened your edges, you’d still cut people. People don’t change easily.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:49 am
by Bell
In b4 Galron denies all of this and I get embarrassed and misinterpreted them entirely.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:51 am
by Cephrir
i think dunnstral has been slowly transforming into an AI and now he's a robot because no one noticed and put a stop to it
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:52 am
by Cephrir
not sure why but i feel like VOTE: OTH
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:55 am
by Bell
In post 556, Cephrir wrote:i think dunnstral has been slowly transforming into an AI and now he's a robot because no one noticed and put a stop to it
I could have made this posy
I'm really rather happy with the trio of {Frog, Bella, CSF} in general
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:01 am
by Frogsterking
In post 553, Bell wrote:I’ve made posts like Galron’s as town. It’s trying to take away your sense of efficacy because you did something they didn’t approve of.
Also, frog, if you don’t think you have sharp edges I have a bridge to sell you.
In post 554, Bell wrote:Even if you softened your edges, you’d still cut people. People don’t change easily.
In post 555, Bell wrote:In b4 Galron denies all of this and I get embarrassed and misinterpreted them entirely.
Okay I see how town!Galron can be motivated to make those posts. I think the interaction is still a scum tell from Galron because I've seen scum choose to take that approach more often than random chance would indicate, especially from lurker scum slots.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:02 am
by Klick
I'm told Luke's scum game is scary but equally he's had some good takes. I think he's probably a net positive on the game state.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:03 am
by T-Bone
In post 522, Lukewarm wrote:My opinion on the Hydra posting restriction, is that if it is real he is likely in a neighborhood with Sun.
That would give the slot an outlet to talk as much as they waty, and a way to keep communicating after they have run out of words (Jin getting Sun to "translate" for him). We also know that there is at least 2 claimed neighborhoods at this point. Could be with Toog, or could be a 3rd hood.
That being said, I don't really have strong feelings about whether the PR restriction being town or scum indicative. I feel like, if it is real, STD had the idea as a way to represent Jin's flavor of struggling to communicate early on in the show before he learned english, and it likely would have been an idea before he randed the flavor alignments.
I gave the caveat of "I might be metagaming" for a reason. I brought it up because in my opinion, they have applied the post restriction inconsistently, making me think it's actually fake.
In post 526, MalcolmTucker wrote:I feel like there could be one scum in Galron/Frog from their argument.
While I don't agree with T-Bone's view re the faked restriction, I think he's town for suggesting it. Seems like a theory unlikely to come from scum.
Can you explain what my theory is in your own words, and why you don't think scum can?
What a fake post restriction if I've ever saw one.
Which part?
If signatures don't count, why not use them every post? In the very few posts you've made I don't feel like you've been either careful with your words or consistent in your application. It looks like to me you're making it up on the fly (or that you and your partner didn't agree how to fake the restriction).
I'm skeptical for other reasons that I'll discuss with the other players, but we can start there.
Look, I am aware that if the restriction is real I risk wasting your word counts or whatever, and you're limited in your ability to explain... but how everyone else reacted is exactly how you would want if you were faking a restriction. Sorry, thems the breaks.
If they were going to fake a restriction though, wouldn't you expect them to be doubly sure how they were going to go about it before committing? It strikes me as an especially convoluted and weird thing for a hydra to make up in particular on D1, when coordinating a hydra can be a difficult job anyway, especially if said hydra is scum. And given the size of the game, being able to successfully coast through D1 could be of limited advantage anyway considering there'll likely be lots of phases.
The mistakes are the reason I decided to call attention to it. I was suspicious when I first saw it but wasn't gonna bring it up right away. Maybe I should have let them make a few more mistakes before I said anything but that's on me.
Enchant wrote:Why EVER fake restrictions.
To make players like you ask that question rhetorically as if it was self evident they were town.
If you find yourself asking why would (player) do (thing) if they were scum...then my friend you are the gullible target audience.
do you think C+G are scum?
~GE
Leaning. It's the most suspicious thing I've seen in the first 24 hours. To be clear, the fact that I think they could be faking. The restriction could be real and that's not alignment indicative.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:04 am
by T-Bone
In retrospect I should have let them post a bit more before explaining my thoughts because I've now tainted the process for the rest of the day.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:04 am
by Klick
Got any townreads other than Rad, T-Bone?
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:06 am
by Frogsterking
In post 562, T-Bone wrote:Leaning. It's the most suspicious thing I've seen in the first 24 hours. To be clear, the fact that I think they could be faking. The restriction could be real and that's not alignment indicative.
Can't we force a test of it by seeing if they are forced to speak again after using up all 100 words?
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:07 am
by T-Bone
Nah not really. We can't force them to post if it's real, and I've provided the necessary cover if it's fake now.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:09 am
by Bell
In post 563, T-Bone wrote:In retrospect I should have let them post a bit more before explaining my thoughts because I've now tainted the process for the rest of the day.
True. Not invited to the opinion party, but I don’t see much benefit to questioning chat restrictions. I reflexively challenge them and ultimately I’ve never gotten anything positive out of it.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:11 am
by T-Bone
You can voice your opinions, this is my party and I'll opine if I want to, opine if I want to. You would opine too if it happened to you!
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:12 am
by Frogsterking
We can force them to post the rest of their 100 words under threat of being wagoned and then watch whether their slot is required to post again on D1?
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:13 am
by Enchant
In post 569, Frogsterking wrote:We can force them to post the rest of their 100 words under threat of being wagoned and then watch whether their slot is required to post again on D1?
What a dumb idea.
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:15 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 569, Frogsterking wrote:We can force them to post the rest of their 100 words under threat of being wagoned and then watch whether their slot is required to post again on D1?
This actually seems like a good idea unless I'm missing something.
I suppose the only concern is they could still be a scum slot, of course, since the word count limit isn't necessarily alignment indicative, and it allows them to coast through the rest of the day without having to produce any content. But I think the net positives from verifying they're not lying (even though I don't think they are) might outweigh the negatives of them being silent for the rest of D1, especially since they can't exactly say much with 100 words anyway.
but how everyone else reacted is exactly how you would want if you were faking a restriction. Sorry, thems the breaks.