In post 5497, Benmage wrote:Benmage: Benmage, you're a scary genius.
Benmage: No Benmage, you're a scary genius.
Benmage: Yeah that is true.
Benmage: Mmmhmmm.
So time for our crazy firechat session with Benmage!
The topic: HAMMER CHARGERS
So as I previously theorized scum could gain something via hammers. Well what if that *gain* is a NK!
-We all have powers. So scum team is A) Decently sized. B) With power. So to balance... Faraday thought of a creative night kill mechanism????
-No kill N1, why? Cause PnJ hammered.
-Kill N2? YEP... why? Cause SpyreX hammered.
-D3.. Tierce hammer, no charge.
-D4.. Goat on a Raft, no charge.
-D5 Alfred hammer. Incoming charge theory, no kill.
-D6 Alfred (although still a wrong VC with Alfred missing at end)
-N6 Kill.. Yep charge used
-D7 Titus hammer, so town, no charge.. but scum still have a charge.
-N7 You know it. Charge used NK.
And that concludes todays fireside chat with me.
This actually doesn't sound as insane as I expected it to. I don't especially think Alfred is scum though.
I still want a fullclaim. If you are X-shot for instance this all becomes even weirder. And if that's the case it's odd to me that you would save them all so long.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:08 am
by Garruk Relentless
In post 5492, Shadoweh wrote:I've been trying to encourage Garruk to post song lyrics but so far he's been resistant, either he really thinks somehow he's not dying or he's not scum here. Or maybe he's retaining hope, like Benmage will go 'oh i was kidding, i did not in fact
poison
track you, you can go on playing like you matter today'
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:11 am
by SafetyDance
I am happy to vote Garruk.
Will not mind being proved right with that read.
Certainly trust sheeping Benmage atm other certain others.
Hi Magau, echo the sentiment for you to reveal your info.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:12 am
by Benmage
Dude, I could be a gagillion things and Im not fullclaiming.
I've been pretty upfront with what I am/willing to claim.
I opened with the result. Quickly said I wasn't standard. Dismissed ooba as obviously fake. Haven't wavered in my read. Knew whatever you had was nonsense before you full claimed what you "had" on me. Claimed I've done no other night actions... (obviously scum have powers, So I've used none, and haven't done a NK... strange, no?) Whereas town saving abilities only heightens accuracy. We also go back to it making zero sense to be scum fakeclaiming at this juncture, but I digress.
Again what/if I got left could be a plethora of things,
I liked that Magua posted inthread quickly after replacing. (I'd have read my scumqt)
I don't like that he resisted my request/is now a little mia... the paranoia alarms start going off.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:16 am
by Garruk Relentless
In post 5492, Shadoweh wrote:I've been trying to encourage Garruk to post song lyrics but so far he's been resistant, either he really thinks somehow he's not dying or he's not scum here. Or maybe he's retaining hope, like Benmage will go 'oh i was kidding, i did not in fact
poison
track you, you can go on playing like you matter today'
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:16 am
by Benmage
Hammer the troll.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:16 am
by SafetyDance
Why is ooba not being considered scum for the fakeclaim?
That's
twice
there's been
actual
1v1s that have resulted in town flips and there's barely any questions irt these players. Well least not from those alive....
Thats what concerns me... trying to match up for consistency???.. verse just claiming... Unless he thinks I'm uber-fishing which I'm sure someone else would have gone ZOMG dont listen to benmage... right?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:22 am
by Magua
I'm not actually a watcher/treestump, Benmage.
Also, I'm at work, so whatevs.
Also also also, what ooba safeclaim?
Also also also also also, I don't want this Day to end until I get to talk to Tierce.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:23 am
by Benmage
Yes... you've been permanently roleblocking Tierce.
When I return it better be night with the blood of Garruk.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:36 am
by Magua
You're going to have a bad time.
SafetyDance, if ooba is scum, how come you seem so nonchalant about voting along with him?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:52 am
by Benmage
Wowwwwwwww FIRESIDE CHAT ftw
Hey Ceph,
Agar didn't claim N5 result D6.. in fact Alfred rushed the day so that he didnt even get to post!!!!!!
-Agar could have blocked the kill that night. Hence Alfreds need to rush the day.
-My townread on Titus could be wrong. But I'd obviously like to test thru Alfreds lynching.
Back to Alfred scum. Hammering before an outted PR reveals result on a night without a kill. Does that sound like town llamarable or Empire? Or (as there was significant pressure his way)... Sound like scum half suiciding for their team. MMMhhmmmm.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:53 am
by Cephrir
This obviously requires more time, but I don't think I want to lynch Magua anytime soon.
Agar didn't claim N5 result D6.. in fact Alfred rushed the day so that he didnt even get to post!!!!!!
-Agar could have blocked the kill that night. Hence Alfreds need to rush the day.
-My townread on Titus could be wrong. But I'd obviously like to test thru Alfreds lynching.
Back to Alfred scum. Hammering before an outted PR reveals result on a night without a kill. Does that sound like town llamarable or Empire? Or (as there was significant pressure his way)... Sound like scum half suiciding for their team. MMMhhmmmm.
This is definitely a point against them and one I've considered. Probably the biggest reason to suspect them.
But I put a lot of stock in these meta reads, and it's not like he was the only one rushing the day.
I'm not saying he's towntowntown either.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:54 am
by Benmage
Uhh?? what? Magua's one of the better town reads I've been espousing.
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:57 am
by Messiah Complex
Hey Ben, you have any more reports from the Redundant Department of Redundancy?
SafetyDance, if ooba is scum, how come you seem so nonchalant about voting along with him?
What has ooba got to do with Benmage's track claim?
Why was Elle so solid town, Ben?
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:59 am
by Benmage
Yeah. Mafia players are like goldfish. They forget important things rather quickly. And with the unfortunate ooba tunnelage/incident on kkb.. I don't want people to forget the pressure Alfred was under, and the peculiarity of their actions.
that is true.