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Only if Pie is actually serious about it, which maybe she is, but I keep getting a "she's trying to manipulate kagami into suiciding first" gut ping from her. If she's town she's doing this really badly IMO, and if she's scum I would say the same unless there's some kind of useful WIFOM bit to it, or if she actually thinks she can get kagami to bite the bullet first.

Of course you could actually be scum, in which case it's just lolsmith, but oh well I guess.

PS "which person who threatens to suicide will actually do it first" is a really stupid game state to be in, where it's really easy for a wolf to posture around suiciding and then just wait for some town sucker to do it first. Everyone who's actually ok with this as a game state (well, the townies anyway - obviously wolves should be fine with it) should take this as a learning experience for when it, in all likelihood, screws town over.

^more "smith just talking about mechanics" stuff, clearly smith is just a wolf hiding behind this instead of a villager who thinks that people are being really dumb

In post 5492, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I think me and inspector are both fine with leaving dance. I've resigned that it's better to leave now than be pushed during a potential lylo or endgame and then lose for town that way.

Please don't rule out Dunn/mhsmith. If mhsmith flips scum the people left will have to choose between Dunn and Jester/MDS. That is not a situation I want to be in, but I will say that if I were I would probably go for Dunn in the end for his push on a town/town pair to leave dance. It will up to you Kagami though.

If inspector is actually scum then go nuts I don't have any advice. (Actually real talk if he is scum then keep mhsmith alive, but if he does leave dance - and I'll wait for him to do the dead - then 99% sure he's town and this is not a long con gambit to have mhsmith his partner win by endgaming).

Are you still thinking about this btw?

if mhsmith flips town, don't ever lynch SAD/scout, they're both town. also, be very wary of a scum/scum pair in case I'm just thoroughly wrong on Kagami and she tries to invent some reason to get out of suiciding tomorrow.

if mhsmith flips scum... make Jester dead and then I'm not 100% sure. SAD and scout both look very town to me, and Dunn doesn't, but in this scenario, Dunn would strongly have mhsmith interactions working in his favor. up until very recently, I believed Dunn/mhsmith was impossible. now, I think it probably is and it would explain why everyone else left in the game either looks really town or has a bunch of personal reads in their favor. you all can probably come to a firmer conclusion yourselves, but I also want to stress to SAD/scout not to just go out on a limb and suicide unless you're in a 4p endgame and everyone - not just the two of you - everyone has agreed your pair should be the lynch.

if both mhsmith and Dunn end up being town, I apologize in advance. I'm painfully aware that I'm terrible at this game, so feel free to hate on me or get mad at me or do whatever you want.

sorry mhsmith if you're town. it probably would have been easy enough to self vote instead, but I don't really want to enforce a "no suicide" rule when 1. the pair I feel most strongly is town/town is starting to flip out on me; that would be more of a "game throw" than not doing it, and 2. I'm just not in a good emotional state to think about this game right now.

it's done.

If you're town I forgive you.
If you're scum I definitely forgive you.
I didn't play all that well this game, not really sure why. Just never got into it like I normally do. No hard feelings, even if self voting and forcing someone to hammer was always the best town approach.

I still have ill feelings on scout fwiw, but presuming pie is town it's almost certainly 2/3 in Dunn scout jester. Sorry I wasn't better at this, sometimes smith has bad games too

Also try to make the last death an actual lynch. Do it for smith, especially in case it's actually a scum-scum pair.
<3 good luck guys!

It's twilight and fakegod isn't here yet anyway. Who wants to talk?

Tomorrow's list:
1) force jester to justify that FUGLY hop on our wagon
2) figure out a legit town read from Dunn/scout/jester
3) DO NOT SUICIDE (since scum/scum is mechanically possible)

Obviously ignore #3 if pie flips scum. I'll cheer you on from dead thread, it'd be nice to grab a rare win I didn't really deserve (usually it's the reverse in my town games )

I'm ready to be spoiled now fakegod...

In post 5510, mhsmith0 wrote:Tomorrow's list:
1) force jester to justify that FUGLY hop on our wagon
2) figure out a legit town read from Dunn/scout/jester
3) DO NOT SUICIDE (since scum/scum is mechanically possible)

Obviously ignore #3 if pie flips scum. I'll cheer you on from dead thread, it'd be nice to grab a rare win I didn't really deserve (usually it's the reverse in my town games )

Well I mean don't ignore the "don't suicide" bit since it's just not good play regardless of pie flip, but lol yeah if she's scum obv it can't be scum-scum pair.

More upside: I get to mark this as "killed" instead of "lynched" in my stats. Still only only mislynched once as town outside turbos

In post 5503, pieguyn wrote:

I want to make myself feel the sweet embrace of death and turn into stardust. (leave the dance)

mhsmith0, who was

Town

Gentleman

, has

left

in

second dance

.

pieguyn, who was

Town

Lady

, has

left

in

second dance

.

Hello darkness my old friend...

In post 5503, pieguyn wrote:if mhsmith flips town, don't ever lynch SAD/scout, they're both town.

See I want to trust you

I really really do,

But when paranoia sets in.

Wait can Kagami/Dunn be a scum/scum pair.

Or MDS/Jester.

They both have interactions that seem super outside the range of partnership, but at this point who the hell fucking knows.

...

You have got to be kidding me.

Ok I may as well use a coin toss right now
Dunn, have you fooled me again?

Rip Smith. Have a nice eternity in Mechanus or whatever paradise it is that good robots go. And sorry for doubting you!!

Dunn? You scummo? It's you and Jester isn't it? Like both of you have been super super super against me suiciding, at all points of the game. Jester, how many times did I warn you about being the pair alive in LYLO and mislynched by the scum? This isn't what's happening now, is it?

Hey inspector? Got anything to say? You were like 2000% certain they were going to flip scum. Did you ever consider the possibility they could be town? Please link me to the post(s) if you did.

I didn't.

...I've been fucking hunting a T-T pair.
Scum must be laughing rn. I'm willing to listen.

Kagami's probably going to suicide now. If Dunn flips scum, I'm also suiciding.