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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:25 am
by Chemist1422
i'm claiming gossippee, i target a player and get told how many actions targeted them that night and get a reaction to it

night 1 i targeted titus and was told one person visited her but the result (which i will fullclaim as soon as i double check that i can) didn't seem to match up with april's claim

my n2 has info that's probably better not outing until a massclaim or something happens

as for reads i have not fully caught up on the day but jjh saying "i'll post more during the weekend" and then not posting makes me uncomfy

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:36 am
by Almost50
I said treat it as if it was your last post, mate. Claim ALL the info you have now, please. It may help me decide whom to execute (at the very least it may convince me to spare you)

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:37 am
by Something_Smart
what do you mean by "a reaction to it"?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:39 am
by jjh927
What do you mean "not posting" Chemist

I've been doing a combination of catching up and posting

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:42 am
by Chemist1422
In post 5526, Almost50 wrote:I said treat it as if it was your last post, mate. Claim ALL the info you have now, please. It may help me decide whom to execute (at the very least it may convince me to spare you)
fine i double checked and there SHOULD be no reason i get in trouble for saying this

titus n1 "glad to see it", mathblade n2 nothing
In post 5527, Something_Smart wrote:what do you mean by "a reaction to it"?
example given above with my n1
In post 5528, jjh927 wrote:What do you mean "not posting" Chemist

I've been doing a combination of catching up and posting
you've made like 20 posts over 2 days

not saying i've done better but you still feel low-engagement

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:43 am
by jjh927
I mean yeah I still haven't read like 50 pages of the game chronologically but I made some significant progress here

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:45 am
by Something_Smart
Is there any context at all about what the reaction might mean? Why does that reaction not match up with April's claim?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:46 am
by Chemist1422
okay but

your ISO from this weekend is pretty much just setup spec

you said you're still reading which is fine but what have you gotten from what you have read so far

other than DDL scum

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:46 am
by Chemist1422
In post 5531, Something_Smart wrote:Is there any context at all about what the reaction might mean? Why does that reaction not match up with April's claim?
it's indicative of what ability/abilities get used on the target

i assumed that meant some sort of protective or otherwise positive action was used on titus

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:47 am
by Something_Smart
Hm. It specifically relates to the ability used, rather than the person who used it?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:47 am
by Chemist1422
In post 5534, Something_Smart wrote:Hm. It specifically relates to the ability used, rather than the person who used it?
if i've understood it correctly yes

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:48 am
by Almost50
In post 5529, Chemist1422 wrote:titus n1 "glad to see it", mathblade n2 nothing
So, Titus was visited by ONE role (other than yours) and Math was NOT visited by anyone?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:49 am
by Chemist1422
In post 5536, Almost50 wrote:
In post 5529, Chemist1422 wrote:titus n1 "glad to see it", mathblade n2 nothing
So, Titus was visited by ONE role (other than yours) and Math was NOT visited by anyone?
barring ninja shenanigans yes

so if anyone else has claimed to have targeted one of those two they're lying

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:50 am
by mastina
In post 4527, Morning Mage wrote:I'm mech conftown though :lol: 2 players can definitely confirm i'm town, and for some reason another 3/4 players are also doing so. So good luck with that! :wink:
In post 3786, mastina wrote:Most people were of the opinion that Morning Mage's twilight posts hard-spewed him as scum.

Thinking on it, I've actually come to the opposite conclusion. Yes, surprise! Shock! I am reevaluating my take on him and now am of the opinion that he's actually locktown.


Titus
Nero Cain
Almost50
superbowl9
Morning Mage
Guess what the
real
reason for my turnaround townread on Morning Mage was? :P
(Almost50 told us that Morning Mage was the third mason early. This would also be why I deliberately put off towncasing Morning Mage; I really didn't have so much as a single thing to towncase the slot off of because the read was purely a mechanical clear. As shown by them being listed right under the other two masons.)

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:52 am
by jjh927
In post 5532, Chemist1422 wrote:okay but

your ISO from this weekend is pretty much just setup spec

you said you're still reading which is fine but what have you gotten from what you have read so far

other than DDL scum
I need to finish the catchup and bring everything together. My gut is objectively wrong as it conflicts with info from this part of the game, so I don't think it's worth me putting any of those reads on paper at present

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:55 am
by DiamondSentinel
In post 5528, jjh927 wrote:What do you mean "not posting" Chemist

I've been doing a combination of catching up and posting
The scummoning begins

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:59 am
by Bell
In post 5538, mastina wrote:
In post 4527, Morning Mage wrote:I'm mech conftown though :lol: 2 players can definitely confirm i'm town, and for some reason another 3/4 players are also doing so. So good luck with that! :wink:
In post 3786, mastina wrote:Most people were of the opinion that Morning Mage's twilight posts hard-spewed him as scum.

Thinking on it, I've actually come to the opposite conclusion. Yes, surprise! Shock! I am reevaluating my take on him and now am of the opinion that he's actually locktown.


Titus
Nero Cain
Almost50
superbowl9
Morning Mage
Guess what the
real
reason for my turnaround townread on Morning Mage was? :P
(Almost50 told us that Morning Mage was the third mason early. This would also be why I deliberately put off towncasing Morning Mage; I really didn't have so much as a single thing to towncase the slot off of because the read was purely a mechanical clear. As shown by them being listed right under the other two masons.)
This is helpful.

Also, Grandma had a bad morning so I'm not sure how much I'll be posting today.

I think Norwe would be a better BP protect than A50 just because I can see A50 aiming for the harder win condition because he's a cool character like that.

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:01 pm
by jjh927
I think for at least 3 separate reasons, A50 not being a realistic option for a scumkill is better for town than Norwee not being a realistic option for a scumkill

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:03 pm
by Almost50
In post 5541, Bell wrote:I think Norwe would be a better BP protect than A50 just because I can see A50 aiming for the harder win condition because he's a cool character like that.
The next time you confuse my faction with Titus' I will deviate from the plan, disregard all recommendations and execute you instead. It's not that hard to check who is in which faction.

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:04 pm
by MathBlade
In post 5529, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 5526, Almost50 wrote:I said treat it as if it was your last post, mate. Claim ALL the info you have now, please. It may help me decide whom to execute (at the very least it may convince me to spare you)
fine i double checked and there SHOULD be no reason i get in trouble for saying this

titus n1 "glad to see it", mathblade n2 nothing
In post 5527, Something_Smart wrote:what do you mean by "a reaction to it"?
example given above with my n1
In post 5528, jjh927 wrote:What do you mean "not posting" Chemist

I've been doing a combination of catching up and posting
you've made like 20 posts over 2 days

not saying i've done better but you still feel low-engagement
Can you talk about why you picked Titus then me? I want to see why.

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:05 pm
by Almost50
In post 5542, jjh927 wrote:I think for at least 3 separate reasons, A50 not being a realistic option for a scumkill is better for town than Norwee not being a realistic option for a scumkill
Rest assured I'll be fine ;)

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:06 pm
by mastina
In post 4566, MathBlade wrote:What does the play tell you?
On jjh?

Nothing.

Scum-jjh used to be lurker-jjh, BUT, that meta is thoroughly obsolete, as not only,
1: has scum-jjh proven he can and will be a not-lurker, but also,
2: town-jjh has repeatedly time and time again demonstrated that he can and will be a lurker.

So jjh being a lurker here? By play is completely and utterly dead-null.

In terms of contributions for however sparse they may be though?

Still town, because:
In post 1028, jjh927 wrote:Hey mastina, I was gonna vote Titus
Can you confirm once more your strong disagreement with this course of action
jjh's way of working with me felt town,
In post 1031, jjh927 wrote:
In post 848, Almost50 wrote:
schadd_ wrote:
motifs of the series:

assignment of roles to town by mafia; heavy information to mafia;
night actions being determined by events (e.g., two players are assigned to collaboratively use a doctor ability); normal roles or otherwise non-flashy roles; uncertain guilties vs. certain innocents; setup fake-outs; vanilla by any other name tastes just as sweet.
Shit I missed this too
In post 1032, jjh927 wrote:Okay my role is like, the worst imaginable that could be assigned to jjh927
In post 1039, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1037, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 1032, jjh927 wrote:Okay my role is like, the worst imaginable that could be assigned to jjh927
Yeah I wouldn't want to roll caught scum either :/
Nonono, someone has gone through a list of roles and assigned me the one that fits me and the way I tend to play the least
In post 1040, jjh927 wrote:I am what they call an early game player because I actually find scum in the early game and then I get killed so I don't get to play in the late game
I only tend to see lategame when I have roles that can prevent me from dying, my record with which speaks for itself
I liked jjh's mechanical takes on things and feel he was being very genuine and sincere in this,
In post 1036, jjh927 wrote:Yeah that wasn't a meme vote
I liked what little he did give, and,
In post 1038, jjh927 wrote:Not too sure about it right now but then I also respect your play
Also chances are you're probably a mafia roleblocker
Given scum had a 1x alien, I liked this take on things even if the player he was using the logic on was town. (Basically, a good take.)

Are these strong reasons to townread jjh off of play?

Oh hell no, of course they're not. They're borderline-rvs-levels of "town indicators, but weak town indicators", because jjh hasn't given a lot.
But given the mechanical reasons are fairly strong...

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:07 pm
by Bell
In post 5543, Almost50 wrote:
In post 5541, Bell wrote:I think Norwe would be a better BP protect than A50 just because I can see A50 aiming for the harder win condition because he's a cool character like that.
The next time you confuse my faction with Titus' I will deviate from the plan, disregard all recommendations and execute you instead. It's not that hard to check who is in which faction.
Do the right thing.

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:08 pm
by jjh927
You'd be finer with a bulletproof vest though

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:09 pm
by jjh927
Mastina, me calling Menalque a mafia roleblocker was memeing

The roleblocker half was the meme half
Menalque rolls roleblocker more often than statistically likely

I was looking to vote elsewhere at that point in the game but finding the time to commit to mafia now is harder than it used to be