Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:29 am
I also want unwnd to target a current demon with his shard distribute to confirm his ability. Any objections?
https://forum.mafiascum-staging.net/
Doesn't having a DEMON hammer fishies fuck your plan over and isntalose us if scum corrupted one of their own N1?In post 5530, Lukewarm wrote:Probably because we are in semi-elo with 11 alive.
VOTE: fishes
Lets get aa9 to hammer, and if she is town we kill annie tomorrow
pedit: I think that unwnd should hand out shards to people who are already demons. If he can split the shards like the mafia, he should do that. Give 1 to maybe manatee, and 1 to maybe spiff?
That was not actually something that I had considered. An unclaimed corrupted player. And this is the first I remember seeing you mention it.In post 5531, Medea the Alien wrote:Doesn't having a DEMON hammer fishies fuck your plan over and isntalose us if scum corrupted one of their own N1?In post 5530, Lukewarm wrote:Probably because we are in semi-elo with 11 alive.
VOTE: fishes
Lets get aa9 to hammer, and if she is town we kill annie tomorrow
pedit: I think that unwnd should hand out shards to people who are already demons. If he can split the shards like the mafia, he should do that. Give 1 to maybe manatee, and 1 to maybe spiff?
She did agree to hammer us.In post 5532, unwnd wrote:Why not just kill AA9 independently. I doubt AA9 will agree to just vote Fishes, and then we just waste more time trying to get consensus there
Basically what I'm trying to say is that I'm fucking suffering and this needs to stop at some point.
AA9 said she would hammer the fishes. Annie has already refused.In post 5409, ArcAngel9 wrote:I dont mind hammering snarky to prove myself town but what snarky says is true.. we are loosing two townies..
i am not saying no but i am telling you to calculate.
Dude we fucking mentioned it five trillion times.In post 5534, Lukewarm wrote:That was not actually something that I had considered. An unclaimed corrupted player. And this is the first I remember seeing you mention it.In post 5531, Medea the Alien wrote:Doesn't having a DEMON hammer fishies fuck your plan over and isntalose us if scum corrupted one of their own N1?In post 5530, Lukewarm wrote:Probably because we are in semi-elo with 11 alive.
VOTE: fishes
Lets get aa9 to hammer, and if she is town we kill annie tomorrow
pedit: I think that unwnd should hand out shards to people who are already demons. If he can split the shards like the mafia, he should do that. Give 1 to maybe manatee, and 1 to maybe spiff?
I was working from the idea that we were at 6 demons 1 corrupted. So, anyone hammering the fishes would buy us one miselim, comparted to voting someone out directly
Like an eon ago.In post 4688, Medea the Alien wrote:Worst case: Scum corruptor was active as human N1. Scum partner was corrupted N1. This means AA9 is town and not the corruptor or partner.
In this case, there are two corrupted targets right now.
If we eliminate Snarky fishes today, that locks in one human. If we do that via having another human hammer the wagon, we lock
in three and eliminate a question mark.
That leaves one corrupted player, so worst case is scum can corrupt a new one and demonize both, putting them at eight.
The only possibilities for scum-humans who are corrupted are unwnd and Lukewarm.
This means the scum corruptor is able to act as such when human, but probably not as a demon. Since there are no unaccounted for
shards, his partner is also human here.
This makes unwnd-Lukewarm the only viable scum team; if both refuse to suicide when push comes to shove, we eliminate them back-
to-back, gg.
Other scenario: AA9 is the corruptor. There are no additional corrupted targets out there.
We have unwnd or Lukewarm suicide on SF. That locks in 3 humans. We gain info from their flip.
Spiffeh cannot be scum here if AA9 is the scum corruptor. The same three humans {Rhea, Dunn, Dragons} are still in the auto-town
pool. If we didn't hit scum on the SF supersaint, we know scum is in one of {unwnd/Lukewarm, AE, ML} in order of decreasing
likelihood. (I don't think it's ML)
Overnight, with a town flip, scum can demonize one player and corrupt one at best, or corrupt/demonize one and shard a second one.
That brings us to seven. We then eliminate AA9 here because if one of unwnd/Lukewarm was willing to supersaint-out, she's the
corruptor. Scum from there on out can only demonize one per night, meaning we have to correctly pick her partner from
{unwnd/Lukewarm, AE}
Other other scenario: Corruptor was novice or unable to act for another reason.
This means with SF's elimination, we have no other corrupted humans around. Night Four they can corrupt and demonize one each
two separate players, bringing the total to seven. We still have to hit the corruptor here to avoid the N5 loss, which means we need to actively judge and read.
The last two scenarios are indistinguishable and mean that if we go this route we have to be ready to make a reads-based elim versus a mechanical one.
Conclusion here though is that the corruptor is definitively in {unwnd, Lukewarm, AA9}. This carries through to the next post, looking at Lukewarm's plan briefly.
--PA
@MedeaIn post 5510, Spiffeh wrote:Medea, I'm interested in your desired lim order for your PoE list (Annie, AA9, unwnd, Luke)
And in skimming, mixed up corrupter and corrupted.In post 4688, Medea the Alien wrote:The only possibilities for scum-humans who are corrupted are unwnd and Lukewarm.