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Not Voting (6): Chara(116), catboi(32), Starcrossed(19), Xtoxm(7), Morning Tweet(34), Ydrasse(79)

With 13 alive it takes 7 to FLIP.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-05 13:48:31)

FLAVOR

weren't you ascetic?

@xtoxm - how can you and I confirm a message through someone if you die?

you said starcrossed was making me non-ascetic

do you have something between you and I that only I would know or something like that in the message? We gotta figure out a way to confirm if Chara, the person we want you to give the message to, is telling the truth.

In post 5553, Xtoxm wrote:you said starcrossed was making me non-ascetic

you right.

Yeah, I think they're scum too.

i have thought about this.
i had the idea out putting one of my currently secret alts in the message, that i'm sure you'd be able to recognise, but i also feel thats a kinda underhanded/unfair.
other than some kinda secret info thing like that im not sure, do you have other ideas?
i do consider it very unlikely that im to die, and kinda okay if it does happen

yeah, it does. Alright, we'll just let it go.

If you end up dying at night, that's not the end of the world. And you confirm Starcrossed 100% saw your message, right?

everytime I talk to Xtoxm I think he's town, and I feel like I trust that.

I feel like we should be able to solve somewhere or another pretty soon.

i feel very confident that starcrossed saw the message, yes

I wanna do some setup spec tomorrow, but then I think we can start to work on the fade

skitter30
Hopkirk
unwnd
Morning Tweet
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra)
Gamma Emerald
Flavor Leaf
Ydrasse
Chara
catboi
Xtoxm
Firebringer
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro)
Hectic
Lunar Martian

player list

you should check Venus, Ydrasse

wait, Venus is ascetic. Hmm.

Okay, well, Chara is a good target then, that way you can be the one to save them if they're town.

Xtoxm should target Skitter.

Ydrasse should target Chara.

That's a good play.

yeah, im more comfortable being on skitter, too

actually, is Starcrossed's message outed? You could give them the same message, or similar, to Starcrossed, and we can have Starcrossed confirm

which will confirm whether or not Skitter is scum 100% of the time here, since you can't get roleblocked

umm. i feel like the key parts of that message are basically outed. don't think it's a great idea. i'd still be thinking is possible they looked what sc said and mimicked it
what i can do, is keep that same message, plus add some new stuff. no reason not to do that.

sounds good. add the new stuff, we'll see how it goes.

In post 5548, Xtoxm wrote:really cool that you hip fire a random track after tracking my disloyal shot was talked about extensively
you deserve to be faded

A. Are you not ascetic?
B. The only reason why I think Gamma didn't track you is because we can't target anyone who is below us otherwise our action fails. Now that I think about it I should have claimed this earlier because Gamma in my hydra chat said "btw fake that ydra went no where" and I was like "ok sure" and didn't really think about what that accomplishes (as well as what fakeclaiming MD does for us now that I think about it cuz I don't think there's any reasonable way for that to actually catch scum). But ya honestly this is probably acceptable for you to elim us so...

Like Gamma wasn't reading or really paying attention I can't justify his behavoir honestly

i wanna setup spec and then think some stuff over, but yeah, I can see a world where you're town. I think it's just gamestate positioning reasons you guys ended up near the bottom of the POE, so if you're town, that's interesting.

No matter what, with Ydrasse and Xtoxm abilities, I think we're in a good spot, even if one of them are fake, i think it'll give us some good info.

post the claims so far?

In post 5173, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 5170, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:

In post 5152, Flavor Leaf wrote:Ydrasse - unclaimed PR, not ascetic.
Glory and Mel - tracker, targeted Skitter nowhere N2
Venus Mars and Pluto - Ascetic
Morning Tweet - Ascetic Miller
Titus - Vanilla

Xtoxm - Odd Night Loyal Messenger/Even Night Disloyal Messenger, Starcrossed got a message night 1, Gamma didn't get one night 2

Starcrossed - Neighborizes the top and bottom of each list, and removes Ascetic.
Hopkirk - Mason
Lunar Martian - Unclaimed?
chkflip - big vig miller
Dannflor - maf joat
Firebringer - ascetic joat
skitter30 - conditional miller
unwnd - Hated Supersaint
RCEnigma - Mason
catboiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii - Vanilla
Chara - Unclaimed

Wait does Xtoxm’s NAs clear Ali hydra if he’s disloyal even?

No.

Xtoxm is Ascetic as well.

Xtoxm claimed on Day 2 before he targeted.

That's childplay scum for Gamma, it's 100% NAI, if anything, tiny bit scum indicative.

But that would only affect actions on him not the converse, right?

In post 5204, Flavor Leaf wrote:VOTE: Lunar

Policy fade after the other 2 claim then.

If Alisae hydra tracks anyone besides Xtoxm, they scum claim.

Isn’t that a waste?