CONTROL - GAME OVER!

[The Three Bears]

exactly. pinkie knows whats up.

[The Three Bears]

no scum ever counterclaims our role whenever we do full claim. pretty much 100% guaranteed. scum dont sack a member like that. it is impossible that our role isnt confirmable off that alone.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm fine with just going for an lim right now.

[The Three Bears]

i dont even know who i scumread anymore. everyone is so scummy im literally dying.

-noraa

[The Three Bears]

not everyone but TOO MANY people could be scum floating by. i cant tell who is scum >:c

-noraa

[tictac]

well i'm not confortable having no idea about balance here.

[The Three Bears]

i didnt see you post anything about balance until now.

[tictac]

so yeah i wanna finish the massclaims to see if there's an alt explanation 4 the missing mold, and get an idea of the balance of the game before committing to yeeting, but u could be fakeclaiming.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Bears and Mala was being scummy then i'd agree with finishing the mass claim.
But bears and Mala aren't scummy, so pushing for them to claim is just going to be helpful for scum so they know where it's best to shoot tonight.

[The Three Bears]

hmm let me ask my buddies

[NorwegianboyEE]

Spoiler:

Toogaloo - Casper Darling
- 2 Shot HRA Researcher
- Non-lethal actions negated.
- LLD and Self. No shots remaining.

Tictac - Benicoff TV
- Vanilla Ascetic

StD - Moving Letters
- Fruit Vendor

Mastina - Ashtray
- VT (Claims Molded)

Andante - Simon Arish
- VT

Cephir - Merry Go Round Horse
- VT

Norwee - Zachariah Trench
- VT

Roden - Polaris
- N/A (Claims Molded)

Three Bears - Dylan Faden
- N/A (Claims Molded)

Malakittens - The Board
- N/A

I love structurally laying out what is known so far...

[The Three Bears]

Yeah we ain't claiming.

Scum want our claim, they shoot us.

My pool currently has Andante and Cephrir, Toogs as a maybe.

I want Andante gone.

-Pinkie

[NorwegianboyEE]

- VC -

Toogeloo (3) - Malakittens, NorwegianboyEE, Andante
Andante (2) - Toogeloo, The Three Bears
Cephrir (1) - mastina
The Three Bears (1) - tictac

Not voting (3) - Save The Dragons, Cephrir, Roden

[Cephrir]

Well I'm not voting for andante so VOTE: toog

[Roden]

Don't elim yet. I'm doing something.

[The Three Bears]

norwee;s new prpfc is adorbs

[NorwegianboyEE]

UwU
Toog is an better vote~

[The Three Bears]

i'd rather get rid of the noise.

[The Three Bears]

UwU
Toog is an better vote~

I am friends with several Catboys and UwUGirls, you hold no power over me.

so Nya~

*Laughs in maximum power*

-Pinkie "Why can I hear Megalovania?" Bear

[The Three Bears]

nya~
:0

[Roden]

Hey Toog, if you really want to continue to blatantly waste everyone's time and not talk, then I'm just going to assume you've entered anti-spew mode and have officially scum claimed. There's literally no reason to go silent if you're town here.

[Roden]

Follow up question: why did you try to protect LLD during Night 1?

The reason I asked this question was because I looked back to see if maybe you crumbed this at some point, but I didn't really find anything. If anything, your ISO contradicts your claim.

Spoiler: CTRL+F LLD

It's ordinary to be an awe of LLD.

Anyone else weirded out that LLD did an obvious fake vig on Noraa, Noraa took it to heart, and then LLD takes a break while Three Bears gets freebie town reads?

Food for thought.

Now I'm hungry. I could use a sandwich or something.

Like to me...

No one should ever take a day vig 24 hours into the game seriously unless it's Bad Idea Mafia, and I certainly wouldn't expect that from Noraa.

I usually expect LLD to play like she's going to die Night 1. I'm used to her gambits, and the fake day vig is easily something she's do for reactions, but she went no where with it and is now slinking in the shadows of gameplay.

The whole thing seems weird to me.

Reads List:

Norwee - Town
LLD - Null
Mastina - Scum

I'm currently a sheep.

You barely mention LLD, this was all you said about her while she was alive. All you did was show suspicion of her and call her a null read, so why would you protect her from hostile abilities? Why wouldn't you protect your town read? In fact, why didn't you target Ircher to protect him from a scum Roleblock in case he actually was a Friendly Neighbor?

Ircher confirms tonight, simples.

inb4 "I was blocked."

You even anticipate it here. Targeting LLD just doesn't make sense, and I feel pretty sure that you're lying about it.

Toog, do you not believe that Norwee is a deep wolf anymore?

This question was asked because I think you were right, I think Norwee is supposed to be the deep wolf. I believe that you're both scum and that Norwee is bussing you. But I think that because of your interactions with him today, they were just really weird. Like both of you being mostly calm all game, but then randomly getting fired up arguing with each other today, and then a low energy aftermath where you fade from the game and Norwee just wants to elim and end the day. We're approaching the end of the game and have little room for mistakes at this point, but neither of you really care or want to discuss anything further. Your ISO also has weird vibes wrt Norwee because of your wonky progression on him.

Spoiler: CTRL+F Norwee

norwee and maybe mush

Norwee is very much town, and my first strong town read, moreso than anyone else has earned.

Some people seem weirder than usual.

Reads List:

Norwee - Town
LLD - Null
Mastina - Scum

I'm currently a sheep.

I have extremely strong town reads on Dunnstral, Norwee, and Cepheir at this point. Very heavy lean town on petapa- erm... catboi.

Bears would act this way town or scum, but willing to continue sheeping LLD and skate with LLD town.

I'm starting to feel a little less around by the nose with MUSH, though I'm not commiting it as a scum read.

VOTE: mastina

I'm reading through isos right now and I'm coming to the conclusion that if there is a deepwolf, it's Norwee.

Joined the Ircher wagon while it was popular, but was always pushing people to vote elsewhere like Mega and T3. Defended Dunn days 1-3 quite a bit. But mostly... It's the noise. Norwee made a lot of noise to look busy.

There's also the matter of my superpower being that I notoriously claim that my first townread in a lot of games ends up actually being scum.

Norwee has to relay exactly what happens in the neighborhood, and it doesn't hurt their scum game and only helps them look townoer actually.

I think most importantly, Norwee isn't trying to change the status quo.

So, yeah, I think Norwee is a deepwolf. It's all vibes, but I trust my vibes.

This is town, this is town, this is town, this is scum. That's basically all you have to say about him, you don't explain your read until today when you finally scum case him, but then you drop it entirely and don't do much to follow up or defend yourself from the accusations Norwee makes. This isn't really enough to say that you two are definitely distancing...but Norwee said something that stuck out to me.

If Mastina didn’t remind me that your claim doesn’t prove anything that would not have been enough.
If you kept playing low-key and not doing much that would not have been enough.
But the audacity of posting that you think i’m a deepwolf some hours after STD said they believed i was a deepwolf and then posting it like it’s an original thought when you claimed to townread me previously? (And even using it as an point, that your townreads flip scum).
Lol: "I’m reading through some ISO’s right now" Yeah, prompted by weighing your options no doubt. Making sure to soften up for an mislim on me now that the options are getting lower is that it Toog?
I’m starting to believe Mastina’s solve is 100% correct, and this BS shading is the start of their plan. Kill Mastina, "Omg Norwee deep wolff!!" And take it home. Aided by STD and Roden that might buy into it.

Even if Tictac is scum that leaves 1-2 more. I need to reconsider some of my reads. But still trusting Mastina/Andante/Mala/Three Bears
Reconsider: Roden/Cephrir/STD/Toog/

Norwee implies that he thinks you're scum and that we aren't aligned with you since he think we might be convinced to vote him. Granted, I get why he would be worried about that, STD and I both suggested he could be the deep wolf. But earlier he said he didn't trust either of us, so why is it later that he just assumes that we're town? The scum read on you is entirely OMGUS, after going through his ISO I can see he null read you for most of the game when he wasn't town leaning you, and he town read Ceph for around 90% of this game. So why are you and Ceph the solve?

I've been sitting on these two posts for a few days now and I wasn't sure what to think of it. But I feel like if you actually wanted to pursue Norwee, you would've brought them up by now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you want to buss my partner go ahead.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t agree at all with your narrative here btw.
You’re either way off the deep end or trying to make some weird justification for why scum!Toog=Scum!Norwee if you’re his partner.

[Roden]

We can lim Toog now.

I'm fine with just going for an lim right now.

These posts also really concerned me. After I ask Toog to address the Norwee deep wolf case, Toog disappears and Norwee starts pressuring everyone to hurry up and vote Toog out before we can even finish the mass claim and finish any topics/conversations that were still going on. But maybe I'm just being paranoid...

If Bears and Mala was being scummy then i'd agree with finishing the mass claim.
But bears and Mala aren't scummy, so pushing for them to claim is just going to be helpful for scum so they know where it's best to shoot tonight.

...Why am I excluded here? Norwee knows I haven't full claimed yet.

Spoiler:

Toogaloo - Casper Darling
- 2 Shot HRA Researcher
- Non-lethal actions negated.
- LLD and Self. No shots remaining.

Tictac - Benicoff TV
- Vanilla Ascetic

StD - Moving Letters
- Fruit Vendor

Mastina - Ashtray
- VT (Claims Molded)

Andante - Simon Arish
- VT

Cephir - Merry Go Round Horse
- VT

Norwee - Zachariah Trench
- VT

Roden - Polaris
- N/A (Claims Molded)

Three Bears - Dylan Faden
- N/A (Claims Molded)

Malakittens - The Board
- N/A

I love structurally laying out what is known so far...

I think it's because it doesn't matter what I claim. Norwee knows where scum is shooting tonight.