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Imply that there is 2 scum in jester-mds-you

As long as I achieve majority on those, should I care about which 2 it is?

In post 5575, inspectorscout wrote:Imply that there is 2 scum in jester-mds-you

As long as I achieve majority on those, should I care about which 2 it is?

scum slip of sorts?

You realize that if the scum team were jester-mds and you lynched me maf would win? Why are you dead set on me?

Likewise, I don't think it's jester-mds. I think it's either jester and one of your pair (almost certainly you) or both of your pair. That is why I will be voting your pair

And that is exactly what i think.
Both of jester-mds aren't scum. You are. One of them is.

In post 5575, inspectorscout wrote:Imply that there is 2 scum in jester-mds-you

As long as I achieve majority on those, should I care about which 2 it is?

So what is this?

Poorly worded.
You know my opinion on this. It hasn't changed.

No, it's not poorly worded

Unless you're saying you think it's either jester/mds

Its you
And either of them. Not both.

In post 5549, Kagami wrote:I'm glad you're continuing your pair's fine tradition of pity-party-posting.

A-level snark right there.

Uhh anyway. Sorry for being absent lately. I'm just going to share my current thoughts on the game state:

- I don't think any pair is scum/scum.

- Out of Arthur/inspector, I think inspector is the scum, if any. I'm starting to feel better about Arthur lately.

- Not sure if Dunn/inspector are scum together and bussing, or trying to a scummo trying to lynch a townie. There are pros and cons to either strategy.
• Bussing guarantees a scumflip and makes the other pair look *very* good, possibly game-winningly good. On the other hand town could call the bluff, or at best it may delay what could be a certain win.
• Mislynching wins the game for the scum, but on the other hand the scum could also end up the one being lynched, which makes the town pair look great.

I think we should try to figure out which one of them is town, if any, and PoE around that. If they are bussing, then I'm in a town pair. If they definitely aren't bussing, then Jester is scum.

Orrr I'm totally wrong and inspector/Arthur *are* scum together after all.

*sigh* this game is too difficult.

Imagine a world where both you and jester are town.
Imagine dunn and me scum together, crossbussing each other.

Why would bussing be better than just keeping a slight doubt on you the whole game, so we can justify you as a lynch right now?


How I think this shit is: I pushed smith/pie. Dunn can easily blame me for doing so, and him saying that I should've been the lynch yesterday while not exactly having intent to stop the smith/pie wagon gives him towncread, as well as a reason to get us mislynched.

My problem lies in that neither of your pair are taking any stance towards dunn-me interaction right now, although (from my POV) the scum in your pair would be supporting my lynch.

In post 5584, inspectorscout wrote:Why would bussing be better than just keeping a slight doubt on you the whole game, so we can justify you as a lynch right now?

You did keep a slight doubt on me the whole game, while Dunn reneged on it. It's possible you wanted an opposite opinions on my pair in case we get lynched, and that you never really expected us to survive to LYLO because of how suicidal I was and how easy it is to make me doubt myself.

Either way crossbussing is a good strategy because it gives solid towncredit to the survivor, while cooperating on a lynch makes you look incredibly bad if the lynch backfires onto one of you. You already know it's a safe strategy after everyone thought there's no way Dunn and Smith were scum together, and after Dunn already tested the waters with his Parama/Arthur crossbussing theory and didn't get much support.

Simply put, I think crossbussing benefits scum *a lot* right now, regardless of who they are.

Towncredit is the most valuable thing scum could ask for in this game, and they only need *one* townread scummo to win.

I did expect you to survive; the people full of doubt are always saved until lylo.

Do you believe crossbussing works here? If I'm scum and you lynch me, would you see jester more likely to be scum than dunn?
If dunn's scum and we lynch him, would you see jester as more likely to be scum than me?

More importantly, do you think we are crossbussing? If so, you wouldn't mind voting dunn since both of us have to die anyway, right?

In post 5587, inspectorscout wrote:More importantly, do you think we are crossbussing? If so, you wouldn't mind voting dunn since both of us have to die anyway, right?

Wrong answer scummo. If she thinks we're crossbussing but also thinks your pair could possibly be scum-scum, she votes your pair every time

Btw where I'm at: it's either scout-sad or scout-jester

Therefore scout pair best lynch

In post 5585, MiniDeathStar wrote:Either way crossbussing is a good strategy because it gives solid towncredit to the survivor, while cooperating on a lynch makes you look incredibly bad if the lynch backfires onto one of you.

meanwhile sad did both with parama but it's only relevant now because ???

In post 5584, inspectorscout wrote:and him saying that I should've been the lynch yesterday

while not exactly having intent to stop the smith/pie wagon

Big misrep lynch scout

Seriously go over pre-suicide again

mds you suiciding here is bad for a number of reasons:

1. scout/sad could reasonably be double scum
2. Realize that if jester is scum you're pretty much setting me up to be lynched because I look bad basically

In post 5592, Dunnstral wrote:you're pretty much setting me up to be lynched because I look bad basically

Says the dunnstral.
You're setting me up; the people thinking about double scum is just lol. I had so much choice left

Dunnstral: "scout, sheep me" "scout could be scum but he should sheep my reads" "scout was right lets lynch pie/smith" "scout is scum lets lynch him first but lets no do effort to prevent pie/smith from dying, and do some bullshit casing on scout that comes from ???" "See smuth/pie was town i was right kill scout"

I'm really hating Dunn's push on scout.

It basically reads "lets lynch scout because there's a chance he's double scum with SAD but then if he's only scum we lynch Jester", which basically seems to be setting up to endgame with Dunn/Jester scumteam. Scum love to put hypotheticals for a world they know doesn't exist. There is no "what we do after" if both me and inspector are town.

In post 5594, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:There is no "what we do after" if both me and inspector are town

No, because if we are town-town we lose.

Otherwsie
Yes, agreed

Yes that's what I said.

is anything gonna happen?

What happened to Kagami's will to solve the game?

Didn't Jester say he wanted to do a bunch of rereads and give solid thoughts?

Where did Dunn's day opening vigor go?

Holy this right now is literally scum wonderland. Little posts, approaching deadline, lylo. They can just lurk it out and when deadline approaches all the have to do is give soft pushes towards the wrong wagon and we crumble and lose.