Sid Meier's Civilization 5 UPick Mafia (GAME OVER)

[brassherald]

Chara was one of the surprise names on the list of followers of other religions. Anyone want to guess who the other was?

Ok I just read opening post lol.

So the other was klazam because I converted him to catholicism?

Okay, so, this is not going to be useful now, Marshy didn't throw out a random name and neither did you.

It was just Chara. The list was the two of you, Klazam, and Chara. I killed Chara because knowing she was in a religion and reading her iso made me really suspicious, I'm never getting hanged anyway so the hated modification is a good trade.

There was no surprise name other than Chara and I wanted to see the reactions of both Marshy and pidgey.

If you were converted last night, please confirm.

[pidgey]

Great Minds Think Alike

[Maestro]

@MOD :
Can mafia use the night kill + an abilitiy?
Can mafia use the night kill + an ability if they are the last member of their faction?

A player cannot perform two actions, factional or not, at once.

In general, I have upheld Venmar's internal logic for the sake of continuity, but I disagreed with this ruling and made my own decision regarding this question. Scum who are the last living member of their faction would have been permitted to perform a role action (if they had one) and their Factional Kill during the same Night phase.

Also, votecount modifiers (such as Hated) are removed in a Lynch Or Lose scenario.

[pidgey]

OK so I CAN be scum

But im town i swear.

[marshy]

interesting

im still town doe

[marshy]

nice shot btw brass

[pidgey]

Religions seem to have a much bigger impact through time that we originally thought. So what we could analize is, would it be unbalanced for a team to NOT have a religion spreader while town has 3 and the other has one? Or is one of my and marshy scum? Im not saying he is, but just that I guess we cant 100% consider us town either. The counterbalance would be that town spreaders can also target scum and make THEM receive the religions benefits too, so it might balance like that well enough.

But just some thoughts. I really do wanna see what joda and gamma have to claim.

RED MAFIA
Chara (Domination Mafia Non-Consecutive Strongman)
Dunkerdoodles (Domination Mafia Pagan Spreader)
Creature (Domination Mafia Roleblocker)

ORANGE MAFIA
Varsoon (Science Mafia Role Cop)
OnTheMark (Science Mafia Non-Consecutive Doctor)
????????????

[pidgey]

We'll get you, orangey

[marshy]

scum were weak af lol

cept chara. she played a great game

[marshy]

that said my spreading to her got her vig

it was my plan all along

[pidgey]

lol

Im honeslty thinking its gamma for that target on n1 on brass which still seems very sketchy.

But I do gotta reevaluate thor and bujaber.

That's my train of thought at the moment.

[Thor665]

Frankly a non consecutive Doc v. non consecutive Strongman
and a Rolecop v. Roleblocker
looks not perfectly mirrored, but certainly in the ball park of mirroring.

It does make me want to kinda lynch both the religion spreaders.

[brassherald]

I agree.

[Thor665]

The Maestro/Pidgey interaction doesn't much feel like a mod/scum interaction in a situation where Pidgey had already successfully performed a kill and a night action.
Is there any particular argument for Marshy town?

[marshy]

L E T S L Y N C H T H E V I G L O L

[pidgey]

Wooooowwwwww dont lynch me

Im town! Really

Look at on the mark’s interaction with me on day 3 and tell me im his buddy

[Jodaxq]

@MOD :
Can mafia use the night kill + an abilitiy?
Can mafia use the night kill + an ability if they are the last member of their faction?

A player cannot perform two actions, factional or not, at once.

In general, I have upheld Venmar's internal logic for the sake of continuity, but I disagreed with this ruling and made my own decision regarding this question. Scum who are the last living member of their faction would have been permitted to perform a role action (if they had one) and their Factional Kill during the same Night phase.

Also, votecount modifiers (such as Hated) are removed in a Lynch Or Lose scenario.

So given this new information, is it possible that Chara made both kills?

[Jodaxq]

I also confirm that I was converted to Catholicism

[pidgey]

oh i just realized you implied i was likely more town than scum lol, i missread that Thor im dumb

[BuJaber]

I was pretty sure pidgey was scum when mark flipped..
It would have explained why he pushed the scum are not religion spreader thing. These posts would be pretty ballsy from scum though if he actually did perform kill + action and risk being outed by mod. Could it be marshy?

Anyway I confirm I was converted to protestantism.

Maybe we were wrong and klazam is orange? Mark was pushing that wagon to bus or something?

I think lynching religion is still the safest bet. We know there's no SK. And red team should be dead so there should only be 1 NK per night now moving forward.

Shaz is proven town vig. So gamma cannot be scum unless joda is. I suppose joda could be scum by herself. But then wouldn't mark try to push for a gamma lynch to make his partner look better instead of pushing for a shaz lynch?

Marshy > pidgey > klazam > jodax

What do y'all think of this lynch order? If it isn't one of those I think we lose anyway.

[Klazam]

Ahahahahah

Ok

Orangey, time to hunt for ya

I'll be back with content.

Well done brass!

Right now I'm pretty sure orange was on my wagon since I was the counterwagon to Mark. This is doubly likely because of the way Mark voted me- very much like "I know he's town so I want town red for my relutance for voting him" which suggests to me that orange was pushing me hard.

Also part of this theory is that red would want to hang Mark not me because I was universally suspected for being red mafia- hence me living longer means that less suspicion goes red's way, and lol I was right on that.

On the pedit I was fingered as possible orange? I laugh in your face. Varsoon tried to hang me, I was Mark's counterwagon, and he tried to hang me. I think not.

Master level analysis coming g upsoon of who I think k is orange now

[BuJaber]

Only 8 alive.. we have only 2 mislynches left..

We have to answer the question does orange have religion spreader?
We can't delay anymore. We act accordingly. Yes or no people please. Do you think orange has religion spreader?

I think yes.

[Klazam]

I suspect yes also

[BuJaber]

Klazam I think it's more likely that one of marshy/pidgey is the scum BUT my point was that if mark and you were partners and wanted to make sure one of you can survive til endgame you would bus the shit out of each other day 4 considering you both became wagons.

[Klazam]

HE didnt bus the shit out of me, his vote on me was reluctant. and tbh i was doing jack shit, i'd have been a easy bus.

Final votecount of D4 on me:
Klazam: marshy, Gamma Emerald, BuJaber, Thor665, OnTheMark

Gonna say I still believe Gamma and Thor to be p much conftown. Bu being on me makes sense in general, been on me for a long time. marshy is the religion spreader here.

Final votecount of D4 on Mark:
OnTheMark: Shaziro, Klazam, Jodaxq, Ranmaru, Pidgey, Brassherald, Chara

Hm. Would orange bus or push elsewhere as a counterwagon here.

Pidgey- as scum, which would you be more likely to do?

On another tack-



Im gonna sort this to..

Town:
brassherald, Gamma Emerald, Jodaxq, Thor665, Klazam

Possible scum:

BuJaber, pidgey, marshy

Oh- Gamma and Joda- any action results last night? or anything?