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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:33 pm
by Brian Skies
In post 5598, superbowl9 wrote:??? Why not? Give scum 1-shot whatever abilities and let them decide when to use it does not seem at all unbalanced especially in a game with this much town power.
You're focusing a lot on setup spec but do you have reads that don't stem from this stuff?
So you think Cakez just gives town a bunch of gated roles and lets scum take as many actions as they want? I don't buy it.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:35 pm
by Brian Skies
Because I didn't see a reason to think that and I thought it could've just been him introducing random paranoia in the thread as scum when we didn't need it.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:35 pm
by Brian Skies
I've been townreading him otherwise, but I definitely didn't like that comment.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:35 pm
by superbowl9
In post 5600, Brian Skies wrote: In post 5598, superbowl9 wrote:??? Why not? Give scum 1-shot whatever abilities and let them decide when to use it does not seem at all unbalanced especially in a game with this much town power.
You're focusing a lot on setup spec but do you have reads that don't stem from this stuff?
So you think Cakez just gives town a bunch of gated roles and lets scum take as many actions as they want? I don't buy it.
No you limit scum's power to X-shot but allowing them to do it all in one night or spread it out doesn't really seem relevant to me - like using a bunch of powers night 1 isn't even necessarily good compared to spreading it out. Just so happens IC activated D1
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:36 pm
by superbowl9
In post 5601, Brian Skies wrote:
Because I didn't see a reason to think that and I thought it could've just been him introducing random paranoia in the thread as scum when we didn't need it.
Me neither, but as scum why out that info if you know it's TMI is my question i guess
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:36 pm
by Brian Skies
I feel like you're just trying to shoehorn the setup-spec to fit whatever it is you're trying to push.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:37 pm
by Brian Skies
In post 5604, superbowl9 wrote:Me neither, but as scum why out that info if you know it's TMI is my question i guess
Because we have no idea if it's true and it just creates pointless discussions and makes it look like he's/other people are doing something.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:38 pm
by Brian Skies
Like, the answer to every questioned scumread shouldn't be 'well I think he could just be a JOAT.'
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:39 pm
by superbowl9
In post 5605, Brian Skies wrote:I feel like you're just trying to shoehorn the setup-spec to fit whatever it is you're trying to push.
Ditto. I honestly don't think there's a problem with multiple 1-shot actions not having a day restriction is almost like the default thing you would do. Either way I'm saying you're setup specing too much, what reason has dunn given outside of setup to earn a TR?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:40 pm
by superbowl9
In post 5606, Brian Skies wrote: In post 5604, superbowl9 wrote:Me neither, but as scum why out that info if you know it's TMI is my question i guess
Because we have no idea if it's true and it just creates pointless discussions and makes it look like he's/other people are doing something.
Idk I don't agree with this. Like if I'm scum I would never say something like this
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:41 pm
by superbowl9
In post 5607, Brian Skies wrote:Like, the answer to every questioned scumread shouldn't be 'well I think he could just be a JOAT.'
That's not my answer though lol, I'm saying his role is just red. You're the one saying there's no way scum could have 2 1-shot abilities used on the same night(???)
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:42 pm
by Annie Edison
Haven’t we already gone over that you and I approach the game in vastly different ways
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:42 pm
by Brian Skies
So you don't think Notty is scum then?
Which means you think Notty is probably telling the truth about Dunn N1, which makes Dunn less likely to be the scum based on the Bell-IC interaction, yeah?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:42 pm
by superbowl9
I mean I can vote you again if you want annie
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:42 pm
by superbowl9
In post 5612, Brian Skies wrote:So you don't think Notty is scum then?
Which means you think Notty is probably telling the truth about Dunn N1, which makes Dunn less likely to be the scum based on the Bell-IC interaction, yeah?
Who is notty
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:43 pm
by Brian Skies
Okay, let's say scum could have Neighborized + Strongman shot N1.
Then why did Notty's result only track Dunn to Cabd instead of Cabd+Imperium?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:44 pm
by Brian Skies
Notty is Annie.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:44 pm
by Annie Edison
Because Dunn’s clearly a strongman ninja neighborizer bulletproof
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:45 pm
by superbowl9
I think annie could be scum. Either way I think it's either T/T or one's scum, but if they're both town I don't see anywhere else scum could really be besides bell. But what bell/IC interaction are you talking about?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:46 pm
by Brian Skies
Is there a particular reason you're just ignoring HP?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:46 pm
by superbowl9
In post 5615, Brian Skies wrote:Okay, let's say scum could have Neighborized + Strongman shot N1.
Then why did Notty's result only track Dunn to Cabd instead of Cabd+Imperium?
Only 1 scum does the kill no? And dunn clearly isn't strongman neighborizor. So another scum with a strongman did the kill, dunn neighborized. This doesn't really seem complicated to me
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:47 pm
by superbowl9
I'm not I'm townreading them pretty hard
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:47 pm
by Brian Skies
I'm just referring to Bell claiming to protect the IC and the IC dying anyway.
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:49 pm
by superbowl9
Yeah so how does any of that make dunn less likely scum? He is confirmed neighborizer, which we know he used N1. Another scum has strongman, they killed imperium. How is that complicated/implausible?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 12:50 pm
by superbowl9
Of course dunn is not the strongman lol why would that be the case