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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:11 am
by Menalque
you're trying and that's the important bit

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:11 am
by Menalque
also fuckin' dad-eeeeeeeeee

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:12 am
by Bell
You could arguably use it to identify town by seeing if nobody died that night.

Also, just a neat thought but what if you were a scum babysitter that could take someone with you if the town blew you up.

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:12 am
by Bell
But it’s weaker, yeah.

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:14 am
by Bell
Also, should we be holding off for mass claim or is now a good time to do that?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:16 am
by Menalque
In post 5602, Bell wrote:You could arguably use it to identify town by seeing if nobody died that night.

Also, just a neat thought but what if you were a scum babysitter that could take someone with you if the town blew you up.
er, maybe? but I'll be honest, even with you saying that right here I'm still not sure how that would work

also, that is a neat thought! just sadly not a reality that we live in

***

kinda might as well, yeah

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:16 am
by Menalque
prettttty sure everyone just claims vanilla from here though

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:23 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5583, Menalque wrote:uh, pooky, I've never conceded a game in my life when playing solo on mena -- I think I've agreed to concede for the sake of hydra partners once or twice. I'm also not sure I've talked about playing against wincon in the past, although I've certainly said that "I hope town loses" or stuff to that effect when very salty. do you have, uh, any receipts of me doing that, because it sounds a loooooot like you're just making shit up from here
the last time I played vs scum!you was Tarot and you basically told Gamma to concede afair

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:26 am
by Dwlee99
I feel like the only person who would kill Cephrir here is Menalque. Does anyone have a refutation of that?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:26 am
by Bell
Dwlee99, pooky, enchant and I haven’t claimed.

Please claim In the following order:

Pooky/Enchant->Enchant/Pooky -> Dwlee99/Bell -> Bell/Dwlee99.

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:27 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I claimed VT like 200 pages ago dude

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:27 am
by Bell
In post 5608, Dwlee99 wrote:I feel like the only person who would kill Cephrir here is Menalque. Does anyone have a refutation of that?
I don’t.

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:28 am
by Bell
In post 5610, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I claimed VT like 200 pages ago dude
Oh, I’m sorry ol’ chum.

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:28 am
by Dwlee99
I claimed VT a billion pages ago as well

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 11:35 am
by Menalque
In post 5607, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 5583, Menalque wrote:uh, pooky, I've never conceded a game in my life when playing solo on mena -- I think I've agreed to concede for the sake of hydra partners once or twice. I'm also not sure I've talked about playing against wincon in the past, although I've certainly said that "I hope town loses" or stuff to that effect when very salty. do you have, uh, any receipts of me doing that, because it sounds a loooooot like you're just making shit up from here
the last time I played vs scum!you was Tarot and you basically told Gamma to concede afair
No, that was our slot who told Gamma to concede, and it was out of consideration for skitt because we were playing in a hydra.
In post 5608, Dwlee99 wrote:I feel like the only person who would kill Cephrir here is Menalque. Does anyone have a refutation of that?
uh. whut lol

I mean I have the sarky refutation of "well clearly someone would because they did" but mostly I have no idea of what logic you're following to think that I and only I would kill ceph?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:12 pm
by Dwlee99
Who is Cephrir threatening by being alive? His death feels like it can allow you to say "Cephrir townread me and died" and that's it

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:15 pm
by Bell
Too wifom for me, not to mention I don't usually read in that deeply to NKs.
I didn't even stop to think if Cephrir dying would hurt Mena's chances. So going that extra step wasn't even there.

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:16 pm
by Dwlee99
Mena said he wouldn't kill Cephrir

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:17 pm
by Dwlee99
In post 5524, Menalque wrote:
In post 5468, Cephrir wrote:
In post 5406, Menalque wrote:Andy
Dwlee
Enchant
Bell

^ i feel good about all this being town


Mistyx, GL, Ceph, CSF <— this is the problematic section for me as it stands

\/ feel good abou this being scum

Pooky
im really obviously town and also like the only person defending you like dude
In post 5510, Datisi wrote:
Cephrir has been killed night 6. he was a
DATS Inc. vanilla employee
.

Spoiler:
welcome,
Cephrir
! you are a
DATS Inc. vanilla employee
, a part of this game's uninformed majority.

role abilities:

~ you have no special abilities.

win conditions:

~ you win when all GB Inc. infiltrators are dead and at least one DATS Inc. employee is alive.
~ alternatively, you win when DATS Inc. employees act as successful bomb defusers 8 times.

the game thread is here. please confirm your role by replying to this pm with your role name.


the sun rises. it is now day 7.
yes, this is a kill I would make as scum

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:17 pm
by Dwlee99
It was his first defense on day start

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:21 pm
by Menalque
and if I'd killed you as scum then my defence would have been "that's way too blatant a kill for me to make, therefore I'm town"

if I were scum I could spin it either way, and yes, I have made kills on people who townread me before when I've been scum but generally speaking not when they are the only person who doesn't want me dead. I would have been about 500% better off if I were scum killing you, then appealing to reason to everyone else, and hoping that ceph would back me up

or do you disagree with that assessment?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:22 pm
by Menalque
you're confbiasing so hard, dwlee

what do you expect town!me to do? go "that's a kill I'd make as scum" in response to seeing the ceph flip?

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:24 pm
by Menalque
I'm still not sure if anyone has said why they think pooky is town btw, or if anyone has said that

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:24 pm
by Dwlee99
I think anyone would have been better off killing me tbh, but the only one who really seems to benefit from killing Cephrir is you which is why I think it's an indicator for you. It's not just "What is the probability that menalque would kill cephrir as scum" it's "what is the probability that menalque is scum given cephrir got murdered"

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 12:27 pm
by Menalque
any scum that is not me distinctly benefits from you staying alive because they are aware that you are horrendously tunnelled on me

ceph was a broadly towny slot who I think only I was expressing any doubts about in the first place?