Project ARCH - Epilogue

[Zaphkael]

Vote Count 5.03

Cloudkicker-

[0]

KidAmn-

[0]

Rautherdir-

[0]

Alisae -

[2] RedPanda, Cloudkicker

Bambi Jay-

[0]

Fish Monger -

[1] Dunnstral

RedPanda -

[1] Fish Monger

Sakura Hana-

[0]

Dunnstral -

[0]

Not Voting -

KidAmn, Rautherdir, Alisae, Bambi Jay, Sakura Hana

Mod Notes –

I can post again for now.

With 9 Alive, It Takes 5 to Lynch.

Day 5 ends in (expired on 2019-09-19 10:49:28).

[Bambi Jay]

Awesome. We got a mod again.

[Bambi Jay]

Alisae please full claim.

No

Sigh. Must I do everything?

I'm a roleblocker though

you know what

let make things spicy

i'm a bodyguard.

the hydra targeted Dunn n1.

I never intended to use it though, not worth it.

It wasn't like I was planning to use the role as well, and really, even the upgraded version isn't worth it imo/in my playstyle.

so it was free info giving away and I could potentially get town read.

Really laying out the cards here.

First he claimed "roleblocker" as a joke, then settled on Bodyguard, then slipped that unlike Almost's role, this isn't the upgraded version.

[Bambi Jay]

can't really say anything about Flavor though since Tanaka and co never claimed that to my knowledge, but maybe they're the second Johnson?

[Bambi Jay]

With no flavor claim we have no choice to hang them I guess. Wait until later though so we can discuss things.

[Bambi Jay]

At the start of the game [claimed/flipped]:
Outcasts[2/1]:

Gamma Emerald

, KidAmn
Iustitia[2/0]: Dunnstral, Rautherdir
Securipal[4/1]:

unwnd

, Fish Monger, Alisae, Bambi Jay
GenX[4/4]:

Celestial Coordinates

,

WhemeStar

,

Claude GD

,

Oversoul

WNGD[4/2]:

Almost50

,

Ankamius

, Sakura Hana, RedPanda
Aeon[2/2]:

PenguinPower

,

Primate

Johnson[1/0]: Cloudkicker

On second thought, Rauth marked them as Securipal for some reason.

So a Bodyguard from Securipal. That... That's weird. With me as a tracker, Unwnd as a VT, and Fish as a Neighborizor of dubious stuff now without the "bodyguard".... Alisae would have to fit into a VT if they were town I think.

One scum has to be in Securipal though, and I'm betting on Alisae actually. Maybe even 2 since Fish kept lying about being a BG.

2 scum in Securipal, 2 in GenX? Alisae might have been the traitor who got locked into Bodyguard by Tanaka since a BG isn't high on the kill list, so they could stay alive.

Though I guess there's no more point in secrets either, so this might help:

I am not able to be Protected, yet both of the other people from Securipal claimed to be Bodyguards.

I don't know if that makes either of their roles more or less likely, so there you go. I'm out of literally every secret now.

[Alisae]

my role is the same as a50's

[Bambi Jay]

Well yeah, I gleamed that already from context clues. I also gleamed Securipal, and knowing that both you and Piss/Fish claimed to be Bodyguards from Securipal... It's weird. He retracted his part though.

So how come you both claimed BG when the other PR in Securipal is Macho? It's... Weird.

[Alisae]

I don’t know
I don’t really care either

Oh I just noticed dunnstral voted someone
VOTE: fish

[Bambi Jay]

also

1 i faked bg to try to draw some kind of nk. my roke says i may or may not have any hidden power.

This is literally the same as Wheme's role then, if that's the case. Can you confirm this is what you mean?

Spoiler: WhemeStar Flip

This is what happens when we try to play God. This is what happens when we believe we can change His creations, and make our own.
Yes, I'm a very religious person. In this time and age, it might be hard to believe. People are wild about science, about technology, we have created worlds and animals and plants. Everything we eat is genetically modified, to optimize taste and growth. I too, have tried my hand at playing God.

But, is this really how it's supposed to be? Is this really what we want, what we need? Did all of this happen just because, or because we're too stubborn to see that we can't just change everything until we like it? Where's the beauty in a flower that's no longer itself, forced to have colours and scents that completely go against its nature? Where is the beauty in once so rare green eyes, when everyone can just ask for a baby with them?

There's a certain beauty in imperfection, and imperfection is what makes this world perfect. How can we enjoy anything when it's no longer genuine, when it's no longer itself?

Maybe one day, I'll be able to apologize to God for trying to be Him. For trying to make imperfection perfection, even when I should have known the beauty lies in the former.

One day.

You are

Elizabeth Roberts, sent by

GenX

, Aligned with

The Rebels

.

You have the following abilities:

• The Secretary
  
  Every night, you may send a business meeting invite to another player. They will know they received the invitation, but not who sent it. This has no effect by itself.
  Your invites have a
  blue
  seal.
  
• Time to work.
  
  Once during the game, you may open a business meeting with all people that carry an invitation with a
  blue
  seal. This may or may not be affected by other roles or mechanics.
  This will be a neighbourhood that is open at all times.

You win when all threats to the Rebellion have been eliminated.

Pedit: You do you, I'm going to sleep and I'll solve this later.

[Alisae]

The only solve that matters is Dunn’s

[Alisae]

I’m not sure everyone exactly gets or understands that so thats why I’m being scumread
If people understood that, then it would be a diff story

[Bambi Jay]

The only solve that matters is Dunn’s

That's probably another reason people are going for you when you try and invalidate every one else's reads just to follow someone. Even if they're a Mason, that sure as heck isn't something people just ignore when you do that.

[Alisae]

Cool, just proves my point even more
Seriously I am so done with trying to take over a game when Dunnstral is playing and is town.
I just get in his way and/or do the exact opposite of what he wants
And he turns out to be right
So I’m done
I have no reason to play the game when my reads are <random compared to Dunns and Dunn can just win games by himself
If people want to lynch me because they feel like their reads are being invalidated, then so fucking be it. Proves my point anyways

[Alisae]

Unlike 90% of players, I will admit that there are people who have higher read accuracy than me, and I will give up my own reads just to help them solve the game.
Thats the most important part of townplay: recongizing when you’re wrong or being able to compromise with others to help them get what they want, even if its not what you want.
Mafia is a team game
If you try to win the game by yourself, you lose
If you work with people, you win

[Fish Monger]

I mean we have 2 scum left, or so.
And that means a lynch or two to burn.
Lets move the game along then.

[Fish Monger]

I see no way alisae makes it to endgame.

[Alisae]

So if this idiot cloudkicker continues to insist that I play the game and he is alive late game
fucking kill him
He’s scum

This isn’t my game to solve, and if I acted like it was, I would do a significant amount of harm then actual good

[Bambi Jay]

So if this idiot cloudkicker continues to insist that I play the game and he is alive late game
fucking kill him
He’s scum

This isn’t my game to solve, and if I acted like it was, I would do a significant amount of harm then actual good

There's backing away at letting people solve. And then there's just being difficult about full claiming and deciding to not play.

[Alisae]

So if this idiot cloudkicker continues to insist that I play the game and he is alive late game
fucking kill him
He’s scum

This isn’t my game to solve, and if I acted like it was, I would do a significant amount of harm then actual good

There's backing away at letting people solve. And then there's just being difficult about full claiming and deciding to not play.

I’m not fullclaiming because someone in the PoE told me to hello??????????

[Alisae]

From my understanding, the person telling me to full claim is lynchable
I’m not listening to that person, they can go fuck themselves

[Alisae]

Even then my role was already claimed in thread
A50 even flipped it
I have nothing else to claim
So...

[Bambi Jay]

You could've atleast clarified the Securipal part without me having to fact-check with Rauth.

If your gonna be boring then I guess I can ignore you and you just protect Dunn or whatever. Trying to make someone play isn't worth the time when they decide it's better to follow.

If I can just ask that you let the other town players talk without just going "just let Dunn Solve" a bunch, then we'll be fine.

VOTE: Fish

One of the Evils has to be a Neighborizor so I'm just gonna vote this one. Mainly because I told him Maria was the serum vendor in private and then Maria dies the next night. And after I claimed town he hasn't used the PT either.

[Fish Monger]

VOTE: fish

L-1 right?

Can you guys now remove your heads?

[RedPanda]

This is a bad lynch. If what alisae says is true, then it means there are two bgs that can kill scum and only a strongman would overcome that. How can Aeon not have a strongman?