Death Curse

[Gloria Cleary]

why can't shelly/uno be T/T

Pooky scumread increased if either flips scum.

You’re kidding, right?

[Tayl0r Swift]

why can't shelly/uno be T/T

Pooky scumread increased if either flips scum.

You’re kidding, right?

no that makes sense. still waiting on VCA from titus. i dunno why we're giving her a free pass to not play like town!her does.

[Gloria Cleary]

If both flip scum, we're yeeting pooky tomorrow.

I don’t see how what he said was scummy. If it makes logical sense it isn’t. Just like LLD’s read on Hopkirk. Irrespective of what either flip, I think Pooky is town here.

[Noraa]

Perhaps its wifomy but I do feel like I will be extremely sus of pooky if uno and shelly are both red.

[Gloria Cleary]

like reading shelly iso from d2 - she heavily shades/votes fred multiple times before he becomes "inevitable" and that doesn't make much sense for her to do as a scum-bussing if she is going to hop off the wagon.

Pooky is pretty obvious town here. If @Noraa, @Titus whomever can’t see that, that’s on them.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it's very strange the way you two play the game.

instead of evaluating whether my read on shelly/uno makes logical sense and discuss the reasoning and why you think it doesn't make sense

- you would rather just shade me for making the read in the first place.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is not something that I think is AI, it's just something that comes up over and over again - it's almost as if we are not playing the same game.

[Gloria Cleary]

why wouldn't I derail shelly-wagon if I think shelly is town?

Was talking to Titus actually.

I just want to hit within Taylor/ShellyC today and then see what happens with Fidget.

Fred interactions + Adorable switch to LLD look the worst for Fidget. It could be Tayl0r but would scum!Fred make it that glaringly obvious? Idk but “his why is Fidget being sr” and then I’m not tr her”, sound a lot like distancing. I wouldn’t scroll anyone on that list rn because it isn’t your typical rule of three type deal, it was Fred trying to influence LLD to shoot. Fred was fine giving the scroll to Adorable when she wanted to yeet Noraa but as soon as Adorable switches to Fidget, he switches to LLD. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. And he kept Adorable on his hit list.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Oh hey, looks like Theta was town and we got fuck all out of the last flip of D2 and already people are trying to sow doubt on the obvious next step scroll bearer. Who could have seen this coming? Was it me? It was me.

VOTE: Shellyc

I'll quote Proof in a second then I gotta get back to work. Someone do me a favor and keep on quoting the post I quote in my next post.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Whoops, there were two. Still important, thanks.

So, Theta for LHF? Suits me fine.

I'm still intent on a Shelly->Tayl0r->Fidget elimination order, determine next steps off of flips. If all three come up red we have a VERY good shot of winning by raw POE and we can just curse our way through the playerlist. If one comes up green, we stop and reassess at that stage. Best case here is LLD hitting one of those three (preferably Tayl0r or Shelly) then we can hit the other two next day. If we hit S->T->S we are, if my math is right, on track to a win again next day, so we can afford one gamble on a high doubt slot with red associatives (Fidget) that day. I don't feel like Shelly or Tayl0r are gambles.

But if LLD hits in the top of that group and we somehow go S->T->T it stops us from going down a blind alley at a critical stage. If LLD eliminates outside of those 3 we're forced to figure out if it affects the associatives on the board before we hit them, and I have an unfortunate suspicion that the answer is "not by much" regardless of flip or LLD's target if she scroll-passes outside of there. Given we are pretty much coalescing around Shelly being highly scummy and most people are sort of like "yeah seems reasonable" on Tayl0r and Fidget as targets, that's crucial info to get out of the way with the coming guaranteed flip so scum can't mindgame us into reconsidering mid-scrollpass during the next day.

FTR, if anyone has doubts that scum could fake us out day 2, recall how hard we bought Fred green before the flip spoiling LLD pass. If Fred hadn't spoiled the flip that way we would have ditched all these fine vintage associatives and almost certainly hit S->T->T -- which keeps us in the running but doesn't put us back on a winning track.

Now think: we hit some rando and go S->T->T today. We hit shelly scum next dayphase, shelly plays it off like we hit town, puts a hurt down on Tayl0r, we fall for it and let her pick some target from the LHF list. We go S->T->T and if Fidget is town, we are nowhere near being on track for the win as we close on the endgame.

Mindgames next dayphase are a serious concern, hence why I want LLD to pass in that group today.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

And you can replace Tayl0r with Pooky in those. I don't give a fuck for either of those slots anymore since Pooky's hitting the brakes on obvscum shelly and Tayl0r's just like "hell, fuck it, lets go". Tayl0r might be hoping for bus cred, but she will get absolutely NOTHING from me here.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Oh yeah, one more thing before I slide off into work-land, I am town on UNOwen because UNOwen's play is pinging me the same exact way it did our other game, where he was killed D1: anonymous, slides off the brain, but every post has a good point.

[Gloria Cleary]

Perhaps its wifomy but I do feel like I will be extremely sus of pooky if uno and shelly are both red.

Those posts from Pooky scream townie mindset. Anyway, it doesn’t look to me like they’re linked. I’m not confident on Shelley but I’m really not picking up scum vibes from her, so I think Pooky could be right.

So, what I’m wrestling with is, would Fred weirdly 1v1 with his buddy Tayl0r like that or was he trying to make us think that? And I don’t think Tayl0r is that bad at scum to go along with something that lame but could be wrong on that because wifom but the classic buddy tell is not a hard pushing but waffling. It’s possible both Tayl0r and Fidget are scum or neither. It’s also possible I’m wrong on Adorable but him putting her in that hitlist, makes me think not.

I think my theory has a better than rand chance of being correct and everything seems to point to Fidget as a buddy.

[Noraa]

Whoops, there were two. Still important, thanks.

So, Theta for LHF? Suits me fine.

I'm still intent on a Shelly->Tayl0r->Fidget elimination order, determine next steps off of flips. If all three come up red we have a VERY good shot of winning by raw POE and we can just curse our way through the playerlist. If one comes up green, we stop and reassess at that stage. Best case here is LLD hitting one of those three (preferably Tayl0r or Shelly) then we can hit the other two next day. If we hit S->T->S we are, if my math is right, on track to a win again next day, so we can afford one gamble on a high doubt slot with red associatives (Fidget) that day. I don't feel like Shelly or Tayl0r are gambles.

But if LLD hits in the top of that group and we somehow go S->T->T it stops us from going down a blind alley at a critical stage. If LLD eliminates outside of those 3 we're forced to figure out if it affects the associatives on the board before we hit them, and I have an unfortunate suspicion that the answer is "not by much" regardless of flip or LLD's target if she scroll-passes outside of there. Given we are pretty much coalescing around Shelly being highly scummy and most people are sort of like "yeah seems reasonable" on Tayl0r and Fidget as targets, that's crucial info to get out of the way with the coming guaranteed flip so scum can't mindgame us into reconsidering mid-scrollpass during the next day.

FTR, if anyone has doubts that scum could fake us out day 2, recall how hard we bought Fred green before the flip spoiling LLD pass. If Fred hadn't spoiled the flip that way we would have ditched all these fine vintage associatives and almost certainly hit S->T->T -- which keeps us in the running but doesn't put us back on a winning track.

Now think: we hit some rando and go S->T->T today. We hit shelly scum next dayphase, shelly plays it off like we hit town, puts a hurt down on Tayl0r, we fall for it and let her pick some target from the LHF list. We go S->T->T and if Fidget is town, we are nowhere near being on track for the win as we close on the endgame.

Mindgames next dayphase are a serious concern, hence why I want LLD to pass in that group today.

Quoted

[Noraa]

Bruh why are there people hard SRing and hard TRing both Shelly and Uno?

[Noraa]

Too many different opinions floating around. Im very lost.

[Gloria Cleary]

And you can replace Tayl0r with Pooky in those. I don't give a fuck for either of those slots anymore since Pooky's hitting the brakes on obvscum shelly and Tayl0r's just like "hell, fuck it, lets go". Tayl0r might be hoping for bus cred, but she will get absolutely NOTHING from me here.

Pooky is town, very obviously so.

[Tayl0r Swift]

And you can replace Tayl0r with Pooky in those. I don't give a fuck for either of those slots anymore since Pooky's hitting the brakes on obvscum shelly and Tayl0r's just like "hell, fuck it, lets go". Tayl0r might be hoping for bus cred, but she will get absolutely NOTHING from me here.

i feel like i was pretty early on the shelly is scum train. fortunately i dont care how you read me.

[Tayl0r Swift]

And you can replace Tayl0r with Pooky in those. I don't give a fuck for either of those slots anymore since Pooky's hitting the brakes on obvscum shelly and Tayl0r's just like "hell, fuck it, lets go". Tayl0r might be hoping for bus cred, but she will get absolutely NOTHING from me here.

i feel like i was pretty early on the shelly is scum train. fortunately i dont care how you read me.

[Gloria Cleary]

Isn’t that hurt tag = final and I’m doomed to the graveyard as a d1 town triple pass

If we can do @taylor than 100% I think scum Taylor kinda clears bell?

Considering that Bell is pretty obvtown now, this post looks really good for Shelley.

[Gloria Cleary]

Isn’t that hurt tag = final and I’m doomed to the graveyard as a d1 town triple pass

If we can do @taylor than 100% I think scum Taylor kinda clears bell?

Considering that Bell is pretty obvtown now, this post looks really good for Shelley.

Can anyone tell me why scum!Shelley would want to clear obvtown!Bell here?

[Gloria Cleary]

Isn’t that hurt tag = final and I’m doomed to the graveyard as a d1 town triple pass

If we can do @taylor than 100% I think scum Taylor kinda clears bell?

Considering that Bell is pretty obvtown now, this post looks really good for Shelley.

Can anyone tell me why scum!Shelley would want to clear obvtown!Bell here?

I like you Mush but Pooky might possibly lead us to victory here. I think this post spews Shelley town.

[Gloria Cleary]

Isn’t that hurt tag = final and I’m doomed to the graveyard as a d1 town triple pass

If we can do @taylor than 100% I think scum Taylor kinda clears bell?

Considering that Bell is pretty obvtown now, this post looks really good for Shelley.

Can anyone tell me why scum!Shelley would want to clear obvtown!Bell here?

I like you Mush but Pooky might possibly lead us to victory here. I think this post spews Shelley town.

The very last thing scum!Shelley wants is an obvtown!Bell clear.

[MURDERCAT]

Why do you keep quoting yourself lol

[Gloria Cleary]

hmmmmmm

ok mush is town
mush LLD taylor pooky are

locktown

Another towntell.

Scum generally don’t like to use that word.
Plus, of that list we have one deadtown and two blatantly obvious living ones. Again, why does scum!Shelley do this?