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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:30 am
by Sakura Hana
I'm not the person you're asking, but since I also "dont want to wait" and want to solve you now is because if you're scum with a strong ability that wants to use it, could use it fine without repercussion because it would happen before you'd be caught lying at XLo.
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:34 am
by jjh927
Victorine has better odds of flipping scum regardless
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:35 am
by Gypyx
In post 5624, jjh927 wrote: In post 5622, Gypyx wrote: In post 5616, jjh927 wrote:I would suspect most of the pressure on Gypyx came from me and people following me, and my case was mainly that he avoided saying he scumread GLB (and still hasn't fixed that and really should)
well, i don't scumread GLB so it's definetly gonna be hard for me to say so
You need to say it just once for mechanical reasons even though it's false
oh whoops
well then, GLB is the biggest scumboi in the history of scum undoutabely
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:35 am
by jjh927
I really don't see any issue with looking elsewhere given a literal IC claim
It's not like we're out of leads
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:36 am
by Sakura Hana
That may be so, actually.
But since we cant re-accuse Gypyx if we aquit him might as well solve him now so we dont regret it later.
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:37 am
by jjh927
We can't reaccuse him with this witch trial bullshit, sure
If you really want to consider it we can do it over the regular elim which we will presumably be back to after we get out of this witch trial bullshit
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:40 am
by Gypyx
In post 5625, Sakura Hana wrote:
I'm not the person you're asking, but since I also "dont want to wait" and want to solve you now is because if you're scum with a strong ability that wants to use it, could use it fine without repercussion because it would happen before you'd be caught lying at XLo.
right, can'r blame you for that, but first it's a bid on me being a very useful scum!pr, which is far from guaranteed, and then, even if you only keep the case with town!me and powerfulscum!me, trading the mislim of a conftown slot for getting a scum out earlier than what would happen by default seems like a risky trade to me
pedit : there's still the executed if you want to get me life sakura
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:41 am
by Gypyx
HEAL: Gypyx
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:41 am
by jjh927
This is effectively an extra elim that has weird voting mechanics
We can just decide we're gonna kill Victorine with it and do that
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:41 am
by Sakura Hana
In post 5630, jjh927 wrote:We can't reaccuse him with this witch trial bullshit, sure
If you really want to consider it we can do it over the regular elim which we will presumably be back to after we get out of this witch trial bullshit
I was assuming that this trial would replace today's elim.
I guess NK14 can shed some light on that?
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:42 am
by jjh927
RC said the lim was "suspended"
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:42 am
by Sakura Hana
Ugh fine, whatever.
Dont blame me later if i turn out to be right.
HEAL: Gypyx
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:44 am
by jjh927
I am pretty confident that normal service will resume once we have burnt a witch
If it replaced the normal elimination it would be blatantly pro-scum and NK15 would deserve to be elimed for using it
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:47 am
by Sakura Hana
I'm still curious why NK wanted GLB instead of Victorine if he suspects both are scum together and this doesnt replace the normal elim.
It would have been far easier to get Victorine dead with 6 required guilty votes.
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:47 am
by Good Luck Buddy
kinda tempted to burn gypyx at the stake just to see how this witch trial shit works ngl
dude refusing to scumread us until he was literally tied up and about to get smoked is a p bad look
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:48 am
by Titus
HURT: gypyx
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:50 am
by Sakura Hana
D1 Victorine: "I'll do things D2"
D2 Victorine:
*Still not doing things*
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:51 am
by jjh927
Titus, why have you voted hurt given the IC claim
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:56 am
by jjh927
In post 5639, Good Luck Buddy wrote:kinda tempted to burn gypyx at the stake just to see how this witch trial shit works ngl
dude refusing to scumread us until he was literally tied up and about to get smoked is a p bad look
How it works is that the person you decide is guilty will die.
I wasn't putting down any pressure when I asked him to say he scumread you so I'd say it looked fine
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:57 am
by Titus
Missed it but he can just IC if that's the case.
I feel the mech stuff makes sense and I'm trying to keep up but still sick.
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:57 am
by Titus
This is worth eliminating too but may just be subbed.
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:59 am
by jjh927
Gypyx claimed melo/lelo IC
Pedit: Yume isn't getting subbed out because she is posting at intervals to not get prodded
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:00 am
by Titus
In post 5646, jjh927 wrote:Gypyx claimed melo/lelo IC
Pedit: Yume isn't getting subbed out because she is posting at intervals to not get prodded
That should just be treated as a VT claim.
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:01 am
by jjh927
It's very much not. If it's a lie then it is a lie that is guaranteed to be found out
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:04 am
by GrandpaMo
In post 5621, jjh927 wrote:If you want to know why I don't engage with you on this very much, it's because you're very aggressive and often misrepresenting things in your favour.
You shouldn't have Clemency in your solve because Titus claimed an innocent result on Clemency. No, that doesn't imply you're not going with the consensus. Clemency WAS a consensus scumread before that.
You also don't get to imply that players are valid scumreads when you scumread them and LHF when I have them in a rather optimistically small pool for a solve. I don't particularly have any reason to believe ratmans or loftwing or SS are scum, just that I believe everyone else is town and need pressure there.
But yeah, your tone is extremely rude and reads as though you know I'm town. I'm being a massive thorn in your side and it's pretty clear by the way that you are attacking me and insulting my intelligence that you know my stance is genuine
First point -- is not true.. That is why I am aggressive is because you have misrepresented me all of this game.
Second point -- didn't they point a innocent result on someone else not clem?
Third point -- Clem wasn't a consensus scumread before this they were just LHF. I was the one who pointed out they could be possible scum.
Fourth point -- That makes no sense with your implicaition. If you don't have no reason to believe they are scum then that means you need to narrow your town pool and start pushing more. You are stick up with so many people being town that you had to result to LHF to being part of your scum solve. I actually have reasons -- you don't.
My tone isn't rude. I only called you a hypocrital liar which may come of as rude... but that's all it it; I am just stating the facts. I am not insulting your intelligence at all. You just keep making shit up that isn't true and anyone can see that.
Question... do you think I am scum doing this on purpose?
do you think I am town doing this? What is the point of me fighting with you when I could have ignored you as scum and let vic die or gpypyx earlier die?
I am pushing you because you need more pressure. I am still questioning your allignment... I am still questioning if you would continue to me me look bad as scum or town. This happene din my first newbie game but we both took a break from each other and started looking at other people... it was quite a good game after that.