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Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:50 am
by Titus
In post 5643, AaronFrost wrote:Like if I'm looking from the outside here, lynching in {me, Chem, RR} is objectively the best move here.

In order for all three of us to be town, that would require scum to have both a tracker AND a follower who both targeted Chem N1, which I suppose is possible, but feels unlikely unless Chem softed or crumbed somewhere.
Or Ali to just be speaking in a hypothetical. I put some heavy thought into it.

Like it's not today but I only want a case that's not slip based. 99.9% of slips are garbage. I've seen two in my entire career.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:52 am
by Reasonably Rational
In post 5649, insomnia wrote:The only leak points towards you, as Chemist said. He said he told you about him having a hood with Aaron.
He also told Aaron about having a hood with me; we are all equally likely to be scum to outside observers. At least, to rational outside observers.

-Cerb

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:52 am
by OkaPoka
In post 4291, AaronFrost wrote:Wait I lowkey didn't even know Bitmap claimed neighborizer.

VOTE: Bitmap
Literally he made this post after Ali outs

Scummmmmm

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:53 am
by insomnia
yeah i didn't read that part you right

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:53 am
by Sherlock and Watson
I could put chemist below aaron maybe

Fuck maybe tse was right lol

-S

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:53 am
by AaronFrost
Oka I've already said I'm fine with lynching Bitmap if Titus doesn't want to lynch in the hoods today.

Tomorrow though, that's what we should do is lynch in {Chem, RR}

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:55 am
by AaronFrost
In post 5650, Titus wrote:
In post 5643, AaronFrost wrote:Like if I'm looking from the outside here, lynching in {me, Chem, RR} is objectively the best move here.

In order for all three of us to be town, that would require scum to have both a tracker AND a follower who both targeted Chem N1, which I suppose is possible, but feels unlikely unless Chem softed or crumbed somewhere.
Or Ali to just be speaking in a hypothetical. I put some heavy thought into it.

Like it's not today but I only want a case that's not slip based. 99.9% of slips are garbage. I've seen two in my entire career.
Are you fine with lynching in the hoods tomorrow then? What's the game plan after we lynch bitmap?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:55 am
by Sherlock and Watson
I wonder if chemist and aaron are s/s and the whole thing was cooked up in scum pt after maria died

Lol this is a fun game

-S

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:55 am
by Reasonably Rational
In post 5650, Titus wrote:
In post 5643, AaronFrost wrote:Like if I'm looking from the outside here, lynching in {me, Chem, RR} is objectively the best move here.

In order for all three of us to be town, that would require scum to have both a tracker AND a follower who both targeted Chem N1, which I suppose is possible, but feels unlikely unless Chem softed or crumbed somewhere.
Or Ali to just be speaking in a hypothetical. I put some heavy thought into it.

Like it's not today but I only want a case that's not slip based. 99.9% of slips are garbage. I've seen two in my entire career.
Sure, Ali could have randomly selected two individuals and declared they were in a hood; given the high density of hoods in this game, such a declaration would have a chance of yielding a positive(not a good chance, likely something like 5% or less, but still a greater chance than in a game with less hoods); it's the fact that chance is so low given she would have to accurate select both halves of a pair that means you have to view that as improbable and not something that should be strongly considered when deciding how likely it is that people are town or scum.

-Cerb

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:56 am
by OkaPoka
In post 5643, AaronFrost wrote:Like if I'm looking from the outside here, lynching in {me, Chem, RR} is objectively the best move here.

In order for all three of us to be town, that would require scum to have both a tracker AND a follower who both targeted Chem N1, which I suppose is possible, but feels unlikely unless Chem softed or crumbed somewhere.
?????

Why do only bring this up now when it's the info has been out there

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:57 am
by Titus
In post 5656, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 5650, Titus wrote:
In post 5643, AaronFrost wrote:Like if I'm looking from the outside here, lynching in {me, Chem, RR} is objectively the best move here.

In order for all three of us to be town, that would require scum to have both a tracker AND a follower who both targeted Chem N1, which I suppose is possible, but feels unlikely unless Chem softed or crumbed somewhere.
Or Ali to just be speaking in a hypothetical. I put some heavy thought into it.

Like it's not today but I only want a case that's not slip based. 99.9% of slips are garbage. I've seen two in my entire career.
Are you fine with lynching in the hoods tomorrow then? What's the game plan after we lynch bitmap?
I want to see Bitmap's flip and do proper vote analysis before ruling anything in or out. So it's fair that I am open to it but I want a separate rationale other than hood slips.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:57 am
by AaronFrost
I brought that up a while ago

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:57 am
by Titus
In post 5659, OkaPoka wrote:
In post 5643, AaronFrost wrote:Like if I'm looking from the outside here, lynching in {me, Chem, RR} is objectively the best move here.

In order for all three of us to be town, that would require scum to have both a tracker AND a follower who both targeted Chem N1, which I suppose is possible, but feels unlikely unless Chem softed or crumbed somewhere.
?????

Why do only bring this up now when it's the info has been out there
Or Ali spoke in a hypothetical.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:58 am
by Sherlock and Watson
I guess I should have actually read those pages that's actually a funny exchange LOL

-S

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:58 am
by Reasonably Rational
In post 5653, insomnia wrote:yeah i didn't read that part you right
I usually am, if I'm paying attention.

Drixx is the one who gets things wrong. ^^

-Cerb

pedit: Why are you only questioning AF for bringing this up? You should be questioning me as well, especially as I'm the one who renewed this discussion. Okapoka, you're the one who was "cleared" by hectic because you're vanilla, right? Or am I misremembering things?(This is another request for some sort of collection o claims and information shared in the thread please and thank you)

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:59 am
by OkaPoka
Want to help me lynch you then


Nah i i I cleared hectic

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:59 am
by Titus
In post 5658, Reasonably Rational wrote:Sure, Ali could have randomly selected two individuals and declared they were in a hood; given the high density of hoods in this game, such a declaration would have a chance of yielding a positive(not a good chance, likely something like 5% or less, but still a greater chance than in a game with less hoods); it's the fact that chance is so low given she would have to accurate select both halves of a pair that means you have to view that as improbable and not something that should be strongly considered when deciding how likely it is that people are town or scum.

-Cerb
Context isn't random. There was a hood discussion at the point before the "slip".

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:59 am
by Sherlock and Watson
In post 4012, Chemist1422 wrote:VOTE: Reasonably Rational

they also hooded me and I told them I hooded aaron, aaron knows this as well

so I think Ali probably did that to set up a fake dichotomy between me and aaron when they actually learned that from RR
Why does this post read like chemist is pissed ali didn't warn him?

-S

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:01 am
by Sherlock and Watson
I think I've actually joined team tse I want to scorched earth the joats other than hectic

-S

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:02 am
by OkaPoka
Cuz i feel like it rr

But also the convo sucks, towncase bit or lynch bit

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:02 am
by Sherlock and Watson
And fuck, who knows, maybe even hectic too...

I got a fever, and the only satisfaction... Is joat flips!

-S

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:04 am
by Titus
In post 3993, Alisae wrote:
In post 3979, insomnia wrote:Ali what about 3952? :P is that a slip?
See, now if I were to say "Chemist hooded AaronFrost and they're in a neighborhood together" then that would be a slip
The only think needed here is a scum tracker if Alisae knows Chemist role as a neighboring player.

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:04 am
by OkaPoka
And all efforts of persuasion should be directed at titus

This is her nation

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:04 am
by Sherlock and Watson
Where's ank

Ank bitty vs chemmy?

-S

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:06 am
by Reasonably Rational
In post 5660, Titus wrote:
In post 5656, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 5650, Titus wrote:
In post 5643, AaronFrost wrote:Like if I'm looking from the outside here, lynching in {me, Chem, RR} is objectively the best move here.

In order for all three of us to be town, that would require scum to have both a tracker AND a follower who both targeted Chem N1, which I suppose is possible, but feels unlikely unless Chem softed or crumbed somewhere.
Or Ali to just be speaking in a hypothetical. I put some heavy thought into it.

Like it's not today but I only want a case that's not slip based. 99.9% of slips are garbage. I've seen two in my entire career.
Are you fine with lynching in the hoods tomorrow then? What's the game plan after we lynch bitmap?
I want to see Bitmap's flip and do proper vote analysis before ruling anything in or out. So it's fair that I am open to it but I want a separate rationale other than hood slips.
Okay so we know bitmap is a neighborizer, and he's claimed other shots.

If he flips scum, we have two scum neighborizers confirmed, with two unknown scum. Does that make it more or less likely that the other neighborizers are scum? If it doesn't have an effect on that probability, then there's no reason to prefer that lynch occur first.

-Cerb