Logically, it's arguable, but in my experience, scum tend to use their one-shot powers early on so they aren't squandered in the case of being lynched before they can be used. If TF had reason to believe that BRO was his traitor, why not go for it?
By the same logic, why did Venmar use both of his cop shots right away instead of holding onto them longer?
People like getting the most out of their roles when they're alive, I suppose.
Anyway, I digress. We're speculating over hypothetical setups. The reality is that either TF or I am scum, or Anti isn't playing to his wincon by drawing this out (highly doubt it, but I might do that one day, just to torture some poor soul). I've made my case for TF scum and anything else I type is reiteration or hypothetical pondering at this point. I feel the same goes for TF.
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:11 pm
by Antihero
^bad
also, if you're scum and don't quickhammer in 3 man lylo when you have the chance, you suck and should have your appendages removed one at a time
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:11 pm
by Trust Fund
Syr and I figured we wouldn't live super long, and we both agreed with SOS's read. Additionally, at the time the game was ongoing so I couldn't say this in the thread, but Bro was playing somewhat similar to the way he had played as scum as my scum buddy in New York 165. We honestly debated targeting venmar night one instead, just in case it was scum claiming PGO to hide some sort of PR.
Syr abandonded me around the middle of day two, and It's been all cabd all the time ever since, minus the one or two posts he's made.
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:18 pm
by Varsoon
Speaking of AJ and hypothetical/logical play...
When AJ claimed he knew there was a traitor in the setup, I pushed for his lynch until I got it, believing he was the traitor. If I was scum, wouldn't it make more sense for me to play along with what he said, mislynch other people while 'hunting' for the traitor, and have a member of the scum-team recruit AJ?
P-EDIT:
@Anti: Yeah, it'd probably be one of the most vile acts of villainy ever.
@TF: Same argument could be made if it was a recruiting power. You thought he was scummy in play (genuinely), didn't think you'd live long, and wanted to get it out of the way.
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:20 pm
by Antihero
In post 5678, Varsoon wrote:When AJ claimed he knew there was a traitor in the setup, I pushed for his lynch until I got it, believing he was the traitor. If I was scum, wouldn't it make more sense for me to play along with what he said, mislynch other people while 'hunting' for the traitor, and have a member of the scum-team recruit AJ?
This is awesome...
The Batman villain here is saying "oh lol, if I were scum, I would totally do the most conventional and expected thing in this situation".
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:21 pm
by Trust Fund
In post 5678, Varsoon wrote:If I was scum, wouldn't it make more sense for me to play along with what he said, mislynch other people while 'hunting' for the traitor, and have a member of the scum-team recruit AJ?
Hahaha, I'm sure I'd spin it some way. Maybe fake-claim bulletproof and say I soaked the shot that night or something.
@TF: Guess that's an argument that could be made, although I don't see why scum would bus at all after the early deaths on their team. Maybe if the lynch was inevitable, but in the case of me and AJ, I pushed the wagon, I wasn't just on it.
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:58 pm
by borkjerfkin
Votecount 9.3
[1] Trust Fund (Varsoon)
[1] Varsoon (Trust Fund)
[1] Not Voting (Antihero)
With 3 alive, it is 2 to lynch.
Let me know if you see any problems.
Deadline is in (expired on 2013-11-08 08:00:00)
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:00 pm
by Varsoon
11 days later, Antihero reveals that it was a ruse, and he was scum all along.
11 days and 10 hours later, Bork reveals that it was a ruse, and we're all town.
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Hold the phone, TF
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:14 pm
by Varsoon
Bork, that's adorable
It doesn't matter who gets hammered now, we all win
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:18 pm
by Trust Fund
In post 5690, Varsoon wrote:It doesn't matter who gets hammered now, we all win
Ok he doesn't care but I do. So you can hammer him and we can celebrate the town win with batman decorated cupcakes.
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:21 pm
by Varsoon
That's a little cynical, don't'cha think?
I might not care, but there's a lot of dead townies that wouldn't want me to throw in the towel. I'm playing on their behalf too, yo. We're in this together.
Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:22 pm
by Trust Fund
I'm sure the dead QT appreciates the misrep of their groaning.
I am! I want the townwin we should have really gotten already had TD not screwed it up. BTW, antihero, if you're curious about plans calling for my own death and following them....