2078: Any Non-Dead Person Can Post In This Mafia Game [end]

[Nancy Drew 39]

VOTE: Mastina

We aren’t lynching Mastina today who is probably town anyway.

[Oversoul]

I’m being serious. Why is Mastina town? She has done literally nothing this game. She ended Day 1 with her vote on a town player. She ended Day 2 and 3 without her vote on anyone

at all

. That is so unlike the Mastina I know from back in the day. Additionally, that is just straight up not scumhunting. Furthermore, Eevee’s iso has a lot of interaction with Mastina, but no read for her. That’s suspect.

What makes her town? If it is her role, I will shut up and leave this game entirely. But unless she is a confirmed power role that has done townie actions that are confirmed, she should be the town’s choice today. Unless someone is able to get more information from an additional night, town should just Lynch through MyLo.

[Oversoul]

Actually.

It might be [Jingle/Asuka, PenguinPower] based on wagon analysis.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Actually.

It might be [Jingle/Asuka, PenguinPower] based on wagon analysis.

Isn’t Jingle IC?

[Jingle]

Everyone!!! Quick!!

What is Mastina's role? Is it confirmed?

mastina is publicly hated, which is pretty insanely negative utility for either alignment. Additionally, mastina being useless has been fairly NAI recently because RL.

More importantly, PP is caught scum, and his flip should give us real information as to the balance of the setup.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Jingle is in fact a literal IC

he's IC'd in the neighborhood via the mod lol

also, for some reason ELA is in the hood, which... did he ever mention that?

Jingle is confirmed IC.

[Oversoul]

I don’t know, I’m not playing this game.

If that’s the case then Asuka has to be scum. There’s no way that Day 1 lynch was entirely town pushed. That leaves Mastina and PenguinPower. Although, Who’s role, if it is loverizer, is insanely scummy.

Pedit: I was right about PenguinPower!?

[Jingle]

Actually.

It might be [Jingle/Asuka, PenguinPower] based on wagon analysis.

Isn’t Jingle IC?

Jingle is either an IC, or Jingle hard claimed IC on D1, convinced Wagon to play along with the fakeclaim, was in a neighborhood with his own scumbuddy, and still somehow managed to be the towniest player regardless of role on D1.

If I were scum here, I'd deserve like three scummies for this game.

[mastina]

hi

Hey PP what was your watch result last night?

[Nancy Drew 39]

I don’t know, I’m not playing this game.

If that’s the case then Asuka has to be scum. There’s no way that Day 1 lynch was entirely town pushed. That leaves Mastina and PenguinPower. Although, Who’s role, if it is loverizer, is insanely scummy.

Pedit: I was right about PenguinPower!?

No who is hydra recruiter, loverizer was Pine’s role. Ausuka is sounding different here than in Normal but I don’t know if that means anything.

[mastina]

She ended Day 2 and 3 without her vote on anyone

at all

.

While this is normally true, I had mechanical reasons for not voting.

This game requires very specific circumstances before we lock in a hammer on players; this game has no deadlines allowing us the maximum amount of time required to obtain that result; voting prematurely risks fucking up the mechanical solves and such, ending the day prematurely before it should.

[Jingle]

Pedit: I was right about PenguinPower!?

Yeah, PP claimed a single target action from the flipped loverizer who has to target two people in order to act, while there is also theoretically a roleblocker. In order for PP to be town, there has to be both a roleblocker and a redirector on the scumteam.

Who is a hydra-izer who targets non players and made a good choice regardless of alignment (RC) thus is fairly unreadable from that angle. A vig shot on him failed, which is corroborated by Ausuka claiming blocked. The vig shot was publicly on Who or Pine, who since flipped town. I've explained why scum would block a vig shot on town before now though, so that's not actually damning evidence.

Ausuka is the only investigative role we have claimed, which I believe has to be town if mastina is town and scum has a roleblocker. If scum doesn't have a roleblocker and Who is town, there's no reason for the vig shot to have failed. So Ausuka may well be just town now that I think about it.

I admit my reasoning on clearing ofhrz is fairly crap, but I really don't want to worry about that at the moment and I'm honestly fine losing to him here, he's played a very good game.

[Oversoul]

Pedit: I was right about PenguinPower!?

Yeah, PP claimed a single target action from the flipped loverizer who has to target two people in order to act, while there is also theoretically a roleblocker. In order for PP to be town, there has to be both a roleblocker and a redirector on the scumteam.

Who is a hydra-izer who targets non players and made a good choice regardless of alignment (RC) thus is fairly unreadable from that angle. A vig shot on him failed, which is corroborated by Ausuka claiming blocked. The vig shot was publicly on Who or Pine, who since flipped town. I've explained why scum would block a vig shot on town before now though, so that's not actually damning evidence.

Ausuka is the only investigative role we have claimed, which I believe has to be town if mastina is town and scum has a roleblocker. If scum doesn't have a roleblocker and Who is town, there's no reason for the vig shot to have failed. So Ausuka may well be just town now that I think about it.

I admit my reasoning on clearing ofhrz is fairly crap, but I really don't want to worry about that at the moment and I'm honestly fine losing to him here, he's played a very good game.

Wow. I did not think my wagon analysis was actually going to work.

Can you give me a run down of what actions have actually happened + claimed to have happened?

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Jingle once RC recruits me, would you be able to tell if my play is similar to my play on here prior? Because I think I would have one helluva time trying to pull that off as scum. And if Ofrhz is scum here and we’re town, I’d definitely not going to be okay with us getting mislynched because you’re okay losing to someone. So rn, I don’t know anything more than you but I will be V/LA from Tuesday to next Monday, so if the day doesn’t end before Monday, RC had better recruit someone else.

[Jingle]

Not really, no. Nanc. LYLO content is super hard to read because the distinction between what town wants and what scum wants is very small. Both want to lynch that guy over there.

I'm not sure why RC needs to invite anyone, though, tbh. We already have proof he's not the roleblocker unless he can multitask.

Why is ofhrz scum?

[Jingle]

Like, as town in 4p MYLO with a conftown, you have two people that you're trying to decide which is the better possibility for you to win by lynching.

As scum in a 4p MYLO with a conftown, you have two people that you're trying to decide which is the better possibility for you to win by lynching.

As far as I'm concerned, if RC recruits anyone it'll be both because he thinks he can correctly get me to lynch correctly when I'm hard to strongarm onto lynches (which he knows, given his past frustrations with that) AND he thinks the person he's recruiting deserves the win. Or spite, but, well, I don't think he can recruit me.

[Jingle]

Our love is god.

Say hi to God

Holy shit, I just saw this. Mad props if this is actually because you got the reference.

[Dannflor]

*explosion*

[Jingle]

Can you give me a run down of what actions have actually happened + claimed to have happened?

D1:

Mastina becomes hated, publicly, around page 10. This is confirmed by the mod.
Wagonomics, Jingle, Eeveelution become neighborhood at 100 players ITT. Jingle claims IC at ~p70, realizes the confirmation is only in the neighborhood. Wagon confirms confirmation.
nom^3 claims 3p, retracts into vig, claims to be shooting Pine, Who, and Jingle.
Pine/ofhrz claim complicated thread specific powers without details.
Some dead guy is lynched, no one bats an eye.
Consensus obvtown: Wagon, Jingle, Mastina

N1:

Who recruits Raybells. CONFIRMED
Titus recruits pops. CONFIRMED
Scum murders my good friend Wagon. CONFIRMED
Nom^3 shoots WhoBells. CONFIRMED-ish
Ausuka cops EV. Red result. (Claimed D3 post EV flip)
mastina misunderstands mod night start PM, thinks she can submit any action, attempts to masonize EV.
Jingle softdefends EV in the neighborchat to duck a night kill.

D2:

mastina claims guilty on EV. later retracts because not actually a masonizer.
Who survives, claims not to know why, (soft evidence for RB on scumteam)
Powerlynch EV, based mostly on the wagon death and individual scumreads. Despite guilty retraction, there is no resistance to the lynch.

N3:

Nom^3 shot Lavender, who won the game for town if people who haven't existed for like a decade both posted ITT. Also, got murdered by scum.

D3:

Ausuka claims inno on pops.
Whobells tried to get Creature to trust tell for them, Creature responded with "Peace out, my boys."
Titusofctown added a Tammy.
PP claims 100 page tracker, 200 page watcher, 1000 page delayed IC with a tracked to the kill result on claimed loverizer Pine. We spam out to 200 pages.
I consider lynching PP for like 20 pages. People (RC) make me abandon my crazy, and if we lose it's all his fault because of it
ofhrz claims governor (strong gate to activation) that mirrors pine role.
We lynch Pine

N3:

Ausuka RB-d, conftown pops shot.
Ether joins theWhobellsOfHavok. This hydra is officially a clusterfuck.

D4:

[Oversoul]

If there is anything I have learned from playing with Mastina it is that I trust as

much as I trust myself

far as I can throw her.


I can definitely see a world in which scum-Mastin fakes a "masonizer" role and drives right over Eevee. That cominbed with her general lack of trying this game and it leaves me incredibly suspicious.

That said, I really do not believe that the first wagon had 7

!

townies on it and if Jingle is confTown then Asuka is the last scum.

[Oversoul]

That Asuka claim only makes me more certain he is scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Can invested nonplayers use alts and hydras to get us to 127 so we can hammer ty

[Jingle]

That Asuka claim only makes me more certain he is scum.

The dynamics around the claim are bad, sure, but do we really have what is functionally IC/Vig/guaranteed mislynch vs RB in a game designed for spamtasticspampostingfromspamville?

Seems WAY scumsided imo.

[Jingle]

Can invested nonplayers use alts and hydras to get us to 127 so we can hammer ty

Agreed. Also, sorry about the overly dramatic leadup to a semi lackluster reveal. I was hoping to make scum worried.

[mastina]

If there is anything I have learned from playing with Mastina it is that I trust as

much as I trust myself

far as I can throw her.

I weigh like 130 pounds, pretty sure most people can actually throw me pretty far.