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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:01 pm
by Deacon Blues
i don't really think the skitter-ss convo is useful because i can't tell the difference between them talking past each other (skitter: "do you think people should be able to observe your town motivation based on your play here" vs ss: "i'm town so it is the proper order of things and they
should
be seeing it in my posts regardless of what you think i've done to deserve that read" vs ss using semantics about what "should" means

-b

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:02 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 5660, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5658, GFITAC wrote:UNVOTE: Something_Smart
Why?
time to start playing 2010-2012 mafia.

Why me fry me

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:03 pm
by midwaybear
I feel the sentiment behind 5675 :lol:

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:06 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 4868, Dunnstral wrote:@Brian

Titus looks bad going after you, but I think the way she goes about her claim is towny.

I think there's 1 scum max within [Titus, Something_Scummy]

I think Something_Scummy has looked bad. I think they're scum, implying Titus town

yo we agree on reads rn?

FeelsGoodMan

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:07 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 5676, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Why me fry me
How many examples of me asking that question as town would it take to change your mind here?

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:08 pm
by GFITAC
can someone give me the lowdown on why people are viewing {Titus, S_S} as TvS?
-BCCorp

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:09 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 5679, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5676, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Why me fry me
How many examples of me asking that question as town would it take to change your mind here?
only if it also never happened as scum

much harder to prove, easy to setup meta wise etc

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:10 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 5680, GFITAC wrote:can someone give me the lowdown on why people are viewing {Titus, S_S} as TvS?
-BCCorp
they claimed lovers so it's unlikely they are both scum.

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:10 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
timebound lovers, as in if they are like in the same timestream they become lovers.

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:11 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 5674, GFITAC wrote:For my part, I think you're a big ball of blah which doesn't seem okay for the fact you have over 200 posts, and also doesn't feel right given my meta knowledge of you, multiple times I have been told and shown you have a tendency to obvtown when you are town.
Meh that meta's a bit stale. I don't think I've been obvtown in a while.
Why do you have no solid SRs at this stage of the game?
Because I'm very bad at identifying scum without mechanical info.

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:13 pm
by Deacon Blues
looking at the start of brian v titus so far but the most most interesting thing about it is the utter agreement that pisskop is scum

-b

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:13 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 5681, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:only if it also never happened as scum
I don't mean to say that you should see it as towny, just that you should not see it as scummy.

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:14 pm
by GFITAC
In post 5684, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5674, GFITAC wrote:For my part, I think you're a big ball of blah which doesn't seem okay for the fact you have over 200 posts, and also doesn't feel right given my meta knowledge of you, multiple times I have been told and shown you have a tendency to obvtown when you are town.
Meh that meta's a bit stale. I don't think I've been obvtown in a while.
Why do you have no solid SRs at this stage of the game?
Because I'm very bad at identifying scum without mechanical info.
I feel like smoke filled antechamber was kinda a game you obvtowned (you were masons with cabd but no one questioned your alignment while his was challenged by DS, so the fact scum attacked him over you constitutes you being obvtown imo)
-BCCorp

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:16 pm
by Something_Smart
Uhhh can anyone else who was in that back me up here? I wasn't obvtown in Antechamber right?

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:18 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
you were pretty forgettable

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:31 pm
by skitter30
In post 5671, Firebringer wrote:okay SS is definitely floating in that game, i still think its different than here in that in that game he produced reads when pressured and here isn't really doing that. Also think that game is a bit more reactive than here (yes he is reactive here but it doesn't seem same way it feels more like he reacts to what he wants to here and in that game he reacts to things he feels he has to).

I might just be con biasing myself but im sticking to my read. Town.
this post is kinda scummy but just so very fire ...

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:32 pm
by skitter30
man idk
VOTE: ss

it's really sad that my biggest scumread is all the way across time and everything

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:33 pm
by skitter30
In post 4869, Titus wrote:
VLA 48 hours depression flaring up
i hope you're ok!
feel better soon!!!

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:39 pm
by Deacon Blues
It's also possible she didn't want to focus too much on this thread here because she replaced scum and didn't know how to start pushing a bunch of players she knew were town.
I feel like a lot of people have been putting this hypothesis forward and i kinda just am over it. Unless someone uses other thread content as a smokescreen for dealing with their own I just don't think this is relatable for me

none of this whole block really purports what Titus' scum agenda is here; you're calling out a few (imo somewhat innocuous) contradictions but that's kinda it
In post 4241, Brian Skies wrote:She also turnstiles Pisskop because 'oh the other side is slower' but quickly unvotes when she supposedly realizes it isn't the slower thread. Which makes me think she doesn't actually want to turnstile Pisskop.
e.g. why wouldn't she want to do that? anyway at the very best it's contingent on pisskop flip

going to have to take this in parts because it's kinda long but just reading down it seems predicated on flips of other people

-b

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:49 pm
by Deacon Blues
peta what do you love about brian's titus case?

-b

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:54 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 5688, Something_Smart wrote:Uhhh can anyone else who was in that back me up here? I wasn't obvtown in Antechamber right?
You had your moments.

Like when you started interrogating traitor-Taylor.

Cabd was vouching for you, though, which meant you were never getting seriously pushed.

Do you have opinions about all the claims currently on the table?

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:54 pm
by Deacon Blues
In post 5677, midwaybear wrote:I feel the sentiment behind 5675 :lol:
also; i don't see scum midway comfortable enough in his own skin to just casually "i am feeling his post" me here; he probably either ignores it or engages me on the fact that i've quite obviously drawn no useful conclusion from it

this sort of stuff adds up and i keep seeing it from him

-b

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:03 pm
by Deacon Blues
gutshot titus town brian scum and that's just due to current positioning on each other tonewise

-b

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:04 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 5695, Deacon Blues wrote:Do you have opinions about all the claims currently on the table?
I initially thought Titus was town via role but the more I think about it the less I believe in that. I still think she's town on play, though.
I think Bell is town due to roleclaim (and a bad execution aside from that).
I think GFITAC is a bad execution due to roleclaim, and mildly towny as well.
I think skitter is towny, independent of her claim, which is null.
I think Brian is towny, partially because of his claim, which leans town because why do you give scum a role that's probably in their best interest not to use. Titus heavily disagrees with me here.

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:05 pm
by Something_Smart
Forgot to mention: I think the mystery neighborizer is > rand town.