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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:33 am
by Secret Tunnel
In post 5698, Secret Tunnel wrote:
In post 5697, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 5687, morph the cat wrote:We have midway bear paranoia, but we don't think there's nearly enough support for that wagon.
I think there's like, more than you think. I'd prefer midwaybear over plusjoyed

-innocentvillager
who is this, honestly
By my count, me, you, 420, and probably plus would all be willing to vote midwaybear at least. Assuming we can get 2 out of 4 remaining votes on here, it's potentially something worth at least discussing.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:34 am
by Secret Tunnel
*2 out of 5 (rem, muffin, april, bulge, bell)

oh and

^-innocentvillager

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:41 am
by morph the cat
I see one major problem with this theory.

Well, two of them.

1: I don't scumread midway more than plus
2: Your plan requires people who have made a point of not giving a shit to give a shit.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:42 am
by morph the cat
Well, I suppose if you get exactly the two names there of the 5 that do give a shit, it'd be different.

You'd have to sell Bork and Bell, though.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:46 am
by midwaybear
Ok Plus is scum with IV very nice
VOTE: PlusJOYED

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:48 am
by midwaybear
oh wait...

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:50 am
by Tammy
Vote Count 2.15

Day Two!





plusJOYED (6):
Remilia Scarlet, 420 Blaze It, morph the cat, April Ludgate, zmuffinman, midwaybear (Sent to Rehab)
420 Blaze It (1):
plusJOYED
zmuffinman (1):
secret tunnel


Not Voting (2}
:The Bulge, bell

Maid Cafe can't post, vote or be voted today.


With 10 votes in play it takes 6 to send to rehab.


Deadline:
Friday, October 16 at 12:00 pm.

Countdown:
(expired on 2020-10-16 12:00:00)

Let me know if there are any errors.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:50 am
by midwaybear
really really really really really sorry
I did not think that was hammer
please forgive me :(

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:52 am
by morph the cat
UNVOTE:

Dude.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:53 am
by midwaybear
In post 5696, zMuffinMan wrote:
Vote: PlusJOYED
This is a vote right

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:53 am
by morph the cat
Scummy AF, midway needs death.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:54 am
by morph the cat
Seriously what the actual fuck was that vote/hammer.

I sincerely hope to arceus that plus is scum.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:54 am
by morph the cat
This is me blitzing before tammy lcoks but uh.


April, keep to your stated actions I guess.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:54 am
by Tammy
Nacho does flips so have a nice twilight!

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:55 am
by morph the cat
In post 5707, midwaybear wrote:really really really really really sorry
I did not think that was hammer
please forgive me :(
Fake AF given you knew muffin had voted, even thought the VC initially had left him out.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:56 am
by midwaybear
I wasn't paying attention
that's totally on me
I really hope this hits scum. Really really sorry guys

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:58 am
by Secret Tunnel
Lmao okay quickwagon midwayscum if plus flips green, which I do think happens, midway literally your only hope is he flips red.

-innocentvillager

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:59 am
by morph the cat
If you weren't paying attention, then why did you know it was hammer BEFORE tammy went back and double-checked?


PLusjoyed, get in here if you were town.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:59 am
by morph the cat
I swear, is it actually something like {Midway, Mariar, ???}

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:00 am
by midwaybear
no no no
I saw muffin's vote, but I didn't know it was the L-1 vote so I thought it was safe for me to vote plus...

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:00 am
by Secret Tunnel
In case it isn’t clear the whole lazy consensus thing is why that wagon was ass

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:01 am
by morph the cat
In post 5705, midwaybear wrote:oh wait...
What is this post for then?

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:01 am
by midwaybear
That's when I realized that I actually hammered.

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:01 am
by zMuffinMan
i uh... should have waited i guess. i wanted to see what plusjoyed did at L-1 lol

if i knew i could do that without any input, i'd have just sat on my vote

inclined to believe that probably was genuinely an accidental hammer even if midwaybear happens to be scum

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:02 am
by morph the cat
In post 5699, Secret Tunnel wrote:
In post 5687, morph the cat wrote:It's a constellation of behaviors. His scum game lives pretty comfortably inside his town game. He's playing here A LOT like he did in the FGO game, where he was town. I thought he was town in that game, but I had a lot of paranoia that if there was a scum player positioned to go long, he was it. I wound up writing an essay about it, and I knew with every point I made that these were things he could do as any alignment, but he just works a little bit harder to get the elims he wants as scum. He came off as less confident about his reads in that game, and that is happening here, too.
Interesting, thanks for clarifying. I think I see why you're like, reasonably sold on town!muffin. You're probably looking at my wall and going like "welp, that was me previous game, he's making the same mistake I was".

To paraphrase from something earlier you said, I think you said "the whole point of meta tells are useful if they are something that the player can't manipulate". So I guess my one concern here is, you don't think this is something that scum!muffin would/is able to manipulate to try and pocket you (or maybe other people in this game familiar with that game)?

-innocentvillager
He's cast one more vote here than he did in the FGO game, unless I'm misremembering!

I think his day 1 interactions with us are within his scum range, it was more a question of whether his suspicions were reasonable, given his style of scumhunting. I eventually came down on the side of "reasonable". And in rereading day 1 during this day phase I felt like I had really misread and mishandled some of our interactions with you guys.

His interaction with you that really tilted you also looked reasonable and sincere to me.

I had a nightmare flash before my eyes this morning, involving a 3p elo of you, muffin and us.

I'm going to wish that elo out of existence because I really don't want to be there for it.