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Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:20 pm**

In post 5699, NorwegianboyEE wrote:So we just do S_S and if that fails it’s Lucy?

Why rule Alisae out?

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:21 pm**

I’m not, but those seem like the most likely scum slots to me.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:23 pm**

I don’t think it’s ever Day or Luca. And if it is, good job i guess.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:23 pm**

Well, one of the three of us is going to have to be ruled out at some point. You and Luca and Day might as well decide on which one today so you can discuss among all three of you.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:25 pm**

I still prefer Isis over S_S tbh.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:28 pm**

But if Isis/S_S are the eliminations anyway then it doesn’t really matter if i hammer you here.
Except in the rare case that Alisae is scum.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:29 pm**

Why is that case rare? Because you townread Alisae, or because you scumread both me and Lucy?

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:32 pm**

In post 5633, LegoLucy wrote:I am sorry about being screamy yesterday

I wanted to soft an innocent on Chara at E1 so that i could keep doing investigates

But wouldn't that have backfired had you been NK?

In post 5634, LegoLucy wrote:N1 Chara guilty N2 Ydrasse innocent N3 Norwee innocent (i made a joke about killing norwee and stuck with that to cooperatoe with watcher or voyeur since my power doesn't really do things anyway )

You were actually told guilty/inno by the mod?

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:33 pm**

I think Alisae’s play has been a bit more actively town than you mainly.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:36 pm**

I mean, my play is pretty passive as either alignment, and Alisae's is pretty active as either alignment. Which parts did you specifically think were active town and not active scum?

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:37 pm**

The fact that they weren’t blatantly pushing an scummy agenda.
Which is kinda the only thing Alisae does as scum.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:38 pm**

I suppose?

I would imagine that they would at least try to be a little subtle about it.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:39 pm**

I mean, I agree with you that Alisae is less likely to be scum than Lucy, but I don't feel like it's because Alisae has been especially towny. (Reconsidering me today was probably the towniest thing they did, but now they've gone back on it, so it doesn't count for much.)

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:40 pm**

If Ali is scum, then I guess pushing for a Lucy elim over an SS one could be a scummy agenda?

As Ali is likely to win vs SS in Elo

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:41 pm**

In post 5707, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 5633, LegoLucy wrote:I am sorry about being screamy yesterday

I wanted to soft an innocent on Chara at E1 so that i could keep doing investigates
But wouldn't that have backfired had you been NK?

In post 5634, LegoLucy wrote:N1 Chara guilty N2 Ydrasse innocent N3 Norwee innocent (i made a joke about killing norwee and stuck with that to cooperatoe with watcher or voyeur since my power doesn't really do things anyway )
You were actually told guilty/inno by the mod?

No, because scum can't NK me and Day the same night, and Day never misses my guilty crumb. I was going to soft it carefully so it'd be rebutted by the guilty crumb. I was considering implying that it was a gunsmith result or something so people would be like "oh she was lying so what's the truth then"

innocentvillager didn't tell me guilty and innocent, that was my own shorthand. He gave me traffic analyst results, don't want to be super specific about formatting because that's not in the spirit of the game.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:42 pm**

S_S you're not bad enough at mafia to think I can be scum here and I hate that you have to pretend to be

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:43 pm**

Uh I didn't really think about how that shades norwee till after I posted.

Sorry norwee

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:43 pm**

Don’t worry, i’m basically immune to it at this point.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:45 pm**

In post 5715, LegoLucy wrote:S_S you're not bad enough at mafia to think I can be scum here and I hate that you have to pretend to be

You mean mechanically, or dayplay-wise?

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:45 pm**

I think the claim makes sense as Town

Do scum really benefit from such a role? It makes sense as Town along with a neighborhood

Plus there isn't much town power elsewhere in the game

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:47 pm**

It seems pretty obvious all other slots want S_S today. So i don’t think you’re getting out of this regardless S_S. Might as well share your final reads if town and tell us who we should eliminate in ElO.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:47 pm**

In post 5674, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5644, Luca Blight wrote:There's so little Town power in this game, which implies Lucy is probably town?
Is there though?

Vig is one confirmed townie. Disloyal roleblocker is... pretty much confirmable in the long term. If the enabler is the last scum alive then they have to take out the roleblocker asap, and if the enabler ever flips then the roleblocker's basically confirmed. The UB is probably half a confirmed townie, off of the chance that they inherit a confirmable role. (And even if they inherit the neighborizer, they still get confirmed to have a neighborizing power which is pretty compelling evidence for being UB.) The neighborizer has investigative power and can guilty scum members if they claim wrong.

Whereas, with the traffic analyst, you add in AT LEAST one confirmed townie, and likely more.

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:48 pm**

In post 5720, NorwegianboyEE wrote:It seems pretty obvious all other slots want S_S today. So i don’t think you’re getting out of this regardless S_S. Might as well share your final reads if town and tell us who we should eliminate in ElO.

Why should you trust my reads over your own?

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:48 pm**

Both, S_S
You're a mixed sweeper

Posted: **Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:49 pm**

Novice vig shot has more chance of hitting town than scum (and it did)

RB isn't that effective early game, and loses it's function once the enabler is limmed

The simple neighborizer isn't that strong, as we have no way of knowing how many scum are pr's and how many are goons

The backup would inherit a weak role either way

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