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In post 892, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I do think Tweetie is more on the hedgy side but she's one of those players that becomes more readable the later into a game it gets because she has absolutely terrible endurance as scum so it's p obvious later if she's a baddie.

She's absolutely a monster if she replaces into a game that has flips to work with because she's relentless but I can see her getting confused in a large theme that moves along fairly quickly. She hasn't done anything that makes me think she's town but I tend to give her a longer leash than most because like if she's town then she will be pretty useful later and if she's bad she'll be like obviously bad.

In post 923, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:oh you're here

nice

VOTE: VPB

give me one reason you're town here

In post 927, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 925, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 923, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:oh you're here

nice

VOTE: VPB

give me one reason you're town here

I haven't called you a moron yet. So, ya know, I'm trying!

that's actually not town indicative for you tho lol

usually you've already annoyed me by now :<

In post 1092, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1089, Morning Tweet wrote:GL still lines up with my impression of him as scum

can you elaborate on this? what is setting off your bat sensors?

In post 1194, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 1121, VP Baltar wrote:

In post 1117, Cephrir wrote:"you can't townread cephrir for being the only one to think about this because i did too. but i didn't really since it was a half baked idea"

plz tell me what is wrong with my characterization or what the town motivation is

Lol, Greeting can certainly townread you for it. Just wasn't your idea. Credit where it's due.

Maybe you came to the conclusion independently, idk. Just saying you definitely weren't the first person to bring it up. I think greeting is more town than you, so I'd prefer they have all the information when making their decision on reads. That's my motivation.

This is a perspective slip because of what's unsaid here.

from VPB!town's POV - he should be townreading cephrir for having the same thought process as he does - unless he wants to claim that Cephrir is just plagiarizing him 800 posts later or w/e but that's clearly not his intent as he didn't even state things in the way Cephrir did.

Instead he seems peeved that Cephrir is getting town-read for a post that he already made - the goal isn't actually because he thinks Cephrir is scum - he just wants his own town cred for "saying something similar" which is kind of ????

Like this game isn't about seeing who can score the most town!points for statements about game state - this game is about sorting between bad guys and good guys. VP's entire conversation with Cephrir isn't about sorting Cephrir - it's about saying oh it's unfair Ceph is getting credit for something that I already said sort of kind of - which is not a town mindset.

In post 1195, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm gonna check something cuz I pretty much never remember VPB!town making a readlist on day one.

do you have an example of a completed town game I can check this against dude?

In post 1211, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you've been playing for 13 years and you can't link me a single game where you made a readlist on d1 as town?

In post 1214, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:actually the fact you haven't told me to fuck off yet is kind of hilariously +scum for you

In post 1245, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I kind of want CSF/Andante/Catboi/Me for my bomb team

In post 1246, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Frogster/Greeting/Cephrir/Titus for the other team?

In post 2761, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I have no issues with letting VPB defuse every bomb if these scumfucks keep putting him up to defuse bombs


HEAL: vpb

In post 2776, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 2769, Cephrir wrote:Between her and Andres it seems obvious they are switching in widely suspected players on purpose but I don't understand what the goal is

I think if they pick a widely suspected town player for the defuser - we can just blow that person up and POE narrows for them and they don't really get anywhere.

If they pick themselves for defuser - they run a risk of blowing themselves up.

So the least bad move they have is to target the same townread player - make the bombs stack up on them hoping we break, while using the swap to target people that are suspected in order to set up future mislims

In post 2777, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:this setup is absolutely brutal for scum - instead of having nightkills they basically squeeze their own POE lol

In post 2814, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:VOTE: mala

speed~run~hype

In post 2934, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we shouldn't lim VPB because scum are going to try to blow him up anyway(if they don't try to blow him up thats basically a scumclaim)

no point doing their dirty work for them make him eat a bullet for someone else.

In post 2936, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like game this out

if our policy is to blow up VPB if he gets a bomb

then scum will always make VPB the defuser if VPB is town

so when that happens booom time

and voila we solve the VPB issue without losing a lim

there's literally no point to divert and get paranoid of VPB atp - we're just playing into the scum wifom.

In post 2938, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I investigated VPB he's a dirty scumfuck

In post 2943, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:actually i was just thinking if we put 3 defusals on VPB and he gets a fourth defusal done

he's basically an IC

In post 2945, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:or if we policy blow him up at 4th defusal, we have 0 chance of losing

if VPB is town, we reset to 0 defusals for scum and we get three more defusals with no worries.

if VPB is scum, we just policy bomb everyone and dare the scumbags to try to win

In post 2964, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:that is meant in a humorous way and not an obscene or mean way

love you dwlee(even if you r scumbaggo)

In post 2965, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 2963, Andante wrote:I was super confident in my strange read, but the way strange said what they said, I kinda doubt that read I had. Dwlee/Pooky interactions feel odd but idk what I think about it, and uhh yeah! Mala ISO is just.. lol nope it's just prodging tbh

dwlee just trying to make me look bad when they inevitably flip scum

In post 2972, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Dwlee just desperately flailing at the air here

In post 2974, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:probly 4 of these 5:

Dwlee99
Enchant
Titus
Mala
Strange

In post 2984, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 2975, Andante wrote:Pooky, why did you agree to save VP? after saying how he was for sure scum D1?

well everyone else thought he was town and I didn't want to get blamed if he blew up and was town cuz then i'm dead next

also he yelled at me and I'm susceptible to AtE >.>

Mostly I don't think VPB has the guts to put himself into a bomb squad when I'm swearing up and down that I want to murder him and he knows I almost never change my mind because I'm stubborn as hell and tend to death-tunnel - I think it's more likely that scum set him up to make me want to blow him up and then I get elimmed on the day after for blowing him up.

In post 2985, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:mala scum just lolcatting at us

i think game is pretty much wrapped

In post 3054, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:it literally makes 0 sense to execute VPB.

if we execute VPB!Town, we basically lost a lim for nothing.

if we are playing in the VPB!scum world, then scum are going for some weird af wifom game where they are trying to win via VPB defusals.

in which case they will put up VPB to defuse the bomb.

in which case we can just blow him up and we keep our lim and scum waste a night.

In post 3055, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:blowing up VPB town is a lot better than limming VPB town

In post 3057, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:in other words blowing up VPB is preferable to limming VPB regardless of VPB alignment

and if scum are trying to win via vpb defusing shit, they have to put up VPB as defuser again.

scum want us to twist ourselves into a pretzel overthinking this paranoia bullshit

In post 3061, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3059, Enchant wrote:

In post 3057, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: and if scum are trying to win via vpb defusing shit, they have to put up VPB as defuser again.

Didn't understand logic behind this one.

if we are in the world where scum are trying to win via defusals

THEN

I'm assuming scum don't have any1 more townread than VPB because if they did

they would use that person to defuse bombs instead of stacking up on VPB.

imo we're just being led towards paranoia because if scum don't crack townblock with paranoia they get POE'd out

In post 3165, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3164, Dwlee99 wrote:Broke: Koba playing a million games with me: Dwlee is impossible to read deep wolf don Corleone

Woke: Andante playing with me a few games and I'm easy to read

Dwlee flexing their deepwolf muscles on us

In post 3168, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ngl 35% of why I think vpbaltar is town is because I think if dwlee was scum with vpb they would've tried to bus VPB for the cred so they could get the last 2 defusals needed yes I have cool thoughts because I am a cool bear.

In post 3172, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i don't think i've ever read a dwlee scum game where they posted a single complicated thought in my life

In post 3176, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok dwlee show me a single post from this game that could be construed as "complicated thought"

In post 3170, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Dwlee's scum game is like 3 inches deep

In post 3200, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3195, Dwlee99 wrote:I have 175 posts in this game and they are all:
1. Andante talk to me
2. Eat hot chip
3. Be non-binary
4. Twerk
5. Lie

you forgot "push convenient wagons" buddy

In post 3201, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3199, Andante wrote:and now I'm interacting and nothing is happening

cuz dlee is terrified of you

In post 3408, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3396, Bell wrote:

In post 3394, Cephrir wrote:

In post 3393, Bell wrote:They're pretty much always where the scum aren't this game.

What does that mean?

They're voting exclusively town with brain dead vote parks and about as much flexibility as an iceberg.

and like what even is this complaint

d1 i voted vpb

i changed my mind on him in the bomb PT (so much for no flexibility)

d2 i voted for frogster because dude needed to die

d3 i voted for mala because she basically was lolcatting and not even playing the game.

she turned up and started posting after hammer already landed

what exactly are you even blaming me for

In post 3416, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:after dwlee murders me in cold blood pls do not let them get away with it tyvm

In post 3431, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:cuz dlee is a scumbag

In post 3437, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

Definitely Town:

Bell
VPB
Andy
Greeting
Cephrir (if I am wrong about anyone in this tier its Ceph but I don't think I'm wrong)

Probably Town:

Mena
CSF
Andres

Null:

GuiltyLion
MistyX
Titus
StrangeMatter

Scum:

Dwlee
Enchant

In post 3438, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

DO NOT LET DWLEE GET AWAY WITH BLOWING ME UP

In post 3443, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:DWLEE IS TRYING TO SPIN SOME WEIRD BULLSHIT SCENARIO THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN A MILLION YEARS TO EXCUSE BLOWING ME UP DO NOT BELIEVE THEM KILL THEM TOMMORROW IMMEDIATELY

In post 3454, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:They're going to have all sorts of bullshit excuses why it's fine:

"We can never trust pooky"

"He was just a VT"

"I would be sneaky about it if I was scum"

"There's no way I would openly plot to blow up Pooky and then actually do it"


This is classic refuge in audacity and every word is designed to make you think they won't do it, in fact the more brazen it is the more likely it is they get away with this shit.

In post 3683, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:dwlee can you walk me through why you told scum to make me defuser so you could blow me up?

also did you think the group you were in was all town prior to today?

In post 3685, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:think scum walked into that bomb session with the plan of blowing up Andres - when bomb expert is mafia its basically a strongman kill so this was planned out ahead of time.

I do think Dwlee made a good point that it doesn't make sense for them to bus Mala for cred and then openwolf a bomb explosion because now they can never endgame - unless SM is also scum and they're pulling a double bus. But even then it feels like a very shit exchange for them.

In post 3900, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't think VPB makes sense as scum because blowing up Andres doesn't fit with that win condition

In post 3903, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I guess it makes sense if VPB is bussing SM for towncred to get another defusal tonight

In post 3909, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't think it makes sense to get cold feet on SM now because we had this same issue yesterday.

Never let VPB defuse another bomb regardless of SM flip imo.

In post 3912, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3906, Andante wrote:

In post 3900, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't think VPB makes sense as scum because blowing up Andres doesn't fit with that win condition

why not? he's with 2 top SRs as defusers, thinks theyboth get limmed over him. yeet 2 town, then he goes. all while having 2 partners still alive. perfect plan. unless you're his buddyand know this already

no VPB gets blown up tonight or we lim him tomm

In post 3924, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't get how that clears misty

In post 3926, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like if we're at town!VPB scum!misty, why wouldnt misty just let VPB defuse and become focal point of game and misyeeted?

its better for scum to have townies be misyeeted than blown up by a bomb

In post 3928, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:esp if VPB!Town already defused a bomb on night 1, then Misty!scum has a lot of incentive to let VPB!town defuse again and give them a NK and it creates town paranoia on VPB and a misyeet possible in the future

In post 3929, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3927, Andante wrote:Pooky, I think you're maf with VP. which is why I'm alive

heartbreaking

In post 3982, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:HEAL: Mena

In post 3993, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:HEAL: Titus

maybe you can cheer her up in the PT

HURT: Mena

In post 4127, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ngl this game would be better if we picked the defuser and the scum had to pick the experts

In post 4368, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Mena do you think Dwlee is scum with VPBaltar?

Cuz I'm not sure what the point of this fight with you is if Baltar is flipping town here.

In post 4370, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like the options are:

Dwlee town VPB scum, Dwlee thinks Mena is VPB's buddy
Dwlee scum VPB scum, Dwlee wants to chain Mena after VPB
Dwlee scum VPB town, Dwlee is pre-chaining to convince us that Dwlee is inno to win a 1v1?

In post 4386, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I can see town Mena thinking you're scum for thinking he's scum but it's not compelling to me cuz you still need to flip Baltar scum first

In post 4427, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 4410, Andante wrote:notice how VP hasn’t gone back to being defuser… scum team knows he explodes if he goes back, so why wouldn’t town!vp go back to defusing???

well if VP is town he wouldn't go back to defuse either because Dwlee gets autoyeeted

In post 4433, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I think we need to flip VP just to see where we are on the defusal meter

if dude flips scum we don't defuse any bombs no matter who shows up in the PT

i dont care if catboi comes back from the dead

In post 4443, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 4434, Dwlee99 wrote:I agree with not defusing anymore unless GL flips town (or I'm the defuser o3o)

I would definitely not trust you to defuse a bomb if VP flips scum :3

In post 4483, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok i've seen enough

VOTE: VP Baltar

In post 4585, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yea im sure scum you would be blazing away with the machine guns and making it super obvious you are scum

you have convinced me

In post 4589, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:so you're saying if you're scum

and you have successful defusals

you would shoot up this town

to make it obvious that scum defused the bomb overnight?

In post 4641, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:just from a risk mitigation standpoint shouldn't we just flip VPB

if he's town then mafia are nowhere close to winning and we kill dwlee tomm

and if he's mafia then yah dead scum whooohoooo

In post 4705, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I tend to play for worst case scenario

if VPB is town, we can defuse 2 more times safely so we can block the mafia bomb kill twice.

if VPB is scum, we kinda can't afford to defuse anything

In post 4826, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:does Andy!scum fake a mech clear on her scum partner Dwlee when Dwlee is already winning the 1v1

I mean you can't really think this

In post 4848, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 4840, Mistyx wrote:

In post 4831, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:whats your question

if you think vp is scum why would you risk scum getting to 3/4 defuses by letting another bomb go through

because I'm not 100% sure on VP being mafia and scum

do not win at 3 even if VP is scum

also GL's first post in the hood PT felt really townie and honest to me. He didn't really feel like he was pushing for being spared - also I don't think there's any reason for Scum!GL to really expect the three of us to townread him.

In post 4851, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:look if VPB is mafia here - we simply do not defuse any more bombs period

there is no point to take that risk.

if you want to litigate whether GL is a partner we can have that discussion here in the open thread rather than execute in a closed hood.

In post 4863, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if VPB flips scum here...

like GL is never defusing another bomb.[no1 in their right mind would let him defuse another bomb]

I am never defusing a bomb.

If the scum really r doing 4 defusal win condition it would have to be someone extremely townread as the third partner

In post 5010, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Mena won't have enough rope for all of us

In post 5011, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I got your back Dlee

even if VPB flips town

Bear Bros Forever

In post 5117, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont understand how vpb is still alive r we being trolled

did he really die 10 pages ago but datisi wont vc cuz i wont give him a pagetop

In post 5252, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't get it

you just said it's either GL/Pooky or GL/Ceph for the scum team but you're also saying that if GL flips scum then Pooky and Ceph r both town?

In post 5254, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok if GL/Pooky/Ceph are all town who are your scumreads then

In post 5302, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:VOTE: Mena


4 protectives with a backup protective in a game where scum dont even have 1 NK a night is yea no way.

In post 5311, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I care about what mech makes sense to be in a game because I know mod meta is absolute and needs to make sense to pass review.

I do not give a shit about whether a PLAY makes sense for a SCUM to do.

Scum do plays that DO NOT MAKE SENSE all the time.

That is part of being scum.

If scum only did plays that makes sense they would get rekt every game.

In post 5317, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Ceph your defense of mena is gonna look like shit tomm prepare to die dude

In post 5319, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if you flip town I will make sure misty dies for you buddy

In post 5322, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i hope mena paid you a retainer

In post 5328, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 5325, Cephrir wrote:

In post 5322, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i hope mena paid you a retainer

feel like two posts saying maybe we should think about all the possibilities before rushing in is maybe not worthy of these posts but ok

you're only making this worse for yourself

In post 5329, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 5327, Cephrir wrote:csf doesn't counterclaim as scum here that's absurd

mb you should be telling mena how to defend himself in the scum PT instead of here

In post 5332, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 5331, Cephrir wrote:

In post 5328, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 5325, Cephrir wrote:

In post 5322, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i hope mena paid you a retainer

feel like two posts saying maybe we should think about all the possibilities before rushing in is maybe not worthy of these posts but ok

you're only making this worse for yourself

you're not going to get me killed this game scumbear

nice omgus didnt see it coming at all

In post 5341, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:its so covenient you scumread mena but when there's an actual chance of the dude dying suddenly you're bending over backwards to make a defense for him

In post 5343, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont even know what your defense of mena is atp actually

In post 5362, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:there's literally no incentive for scum to be using their nightkills before VPB flips because if their nightkills go thru it literally outs VPB as a scumbag

In post 5364, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:and everything VPB said is probably just random ass anti-spew - dude knew he was on a limited timeline

In post 5388, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i can't possibly imagine scum!CSF making 5344

that is a work of art

In post 5442, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:csf mvp

game over

lets wrap this up

In post 5441, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im really drunk and i dont understand why misty and mena havent surrendered yet

In post 5561, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:kinda want to say fuck it and just vote mena but also feeling too cocky might not be the best play here if he actually flips town cuz I can see this shit going very sideways

In post 5562, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like him casing me feels like a lot of effort for scum!him to be making if he's like doomed here

In post 5565, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i lowkey actually do think maybe he just waves a white flag here and concedes if he's actually lone!scum which is kind of gross but he has mentioned playing against wincon on purpose multiple times in the past

In post 5566, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 5564, Dwlee99 wrote:I mean do you expect scum!mena to just concede cause that's lame

kind of yes rofl

In post 5572, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like the thing with him pushing me is.

I can totally see him actually being paranoid of me if he's like town cuz dude is fucking terrified of scum!me since I've like eaten him multiple times.

and like I don't think it actually makes sense for him to do this shit!push on me as like cornered scum cuz the odds scum!him actually flips me here is pretty fucking low and like after I flip town where the fuck is he going to go? try to get 2 more misflips?

seems like a tall fucking task ngl

In post 5577, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:isn't that just how Enchant plays every game

In post 5580, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:that's actually a good point on scum morale lol

VOTE: Enchant