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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:50 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
I could just ignore your reads. But i always like to think most slots want their final input if town and know they’re going down.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:50 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 5723, LegoLucy wrote:Both, S_S
I mean, I'm absolutely bad enough at reads to misread you. My read on you isn't even especially strong, and you haven't done the things that I've correctly townread you for in the past so I don't see why you would expect me to be reading you any differently.

Mechanically, well I made my argument and just re-quoted it. You're welcome to provide a counterargument, but nobody has.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:51 pm
by LegoLucy
I crumbed my role in my first post so for me to be mafia I have to be a scum traffic analyst or informed about a N2 meighborizers (lol?)

Which of those tinfoils are you wrapping your sandwich in

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:52 pm
by Luca Blight
I'm used to town being pretty stacked

In the mini normal I just won as scum, I was up against a Tracker, a N2,N3 Cop
and
a JK, along with an informed cop enabling miller (scum had a 2 shot vanilla cop and 1-shot RB)

And after the game I was told it was scum-sided lol

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:52 pm
by Something_Smart
Scum traffic analyst, in all likelihood.

Or just a goon who felt like setting up a fakeclaim?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:54 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 5728, Luca Blight wrote:I'm used to town being pretty stacked

In the mini normal I just won as scum, I was up against a Tracker, a N2,N3 Cop
and
a JK, along with an informed cop enabling miller (scum had a 2 shot vanilla cop and 1-shot RB)

And after the game I was told it was scum-sided lol
That doesn't feel that stacked to me. How do you compare it to this setup?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:54 pm
by LegoLucy
If I'm a goon who was setting up a fake claim I got really lucky the setup had a neighborizer

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:55 pm
by Something_Smart
I guess?

It's not like traffic analyst doesn't make sense in a setup without one.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:56 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 5730, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 5728, Luca Blight wrote:I'm used to town being pretty stacked

In the mini normal I just won as scum, I was up against a Tracker, a N2,N3 Cop
and
a JK, along with an informed cop enabling miller (scum had a 2 shot vanilla cop and 1-shot RB)

And after the game I was told it was scum-sided lol
That doesn't feel that stacked to me. How do you compare it to this setup?
Well, no role in this setup is as strong as any of {Tracker, N2, N3 Cop, JK}

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:57 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Meh. Luca are you fine with S_S.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:58 pm
by LegoLucy
When I played menalque's favorite places it had a psychologist and a weak doctor and a one shot vigilante and mastina wouldn't let Menalque run the setup unless he also added a motion detector.

I don't think this gets approved with a doubly gated roleblocker and a one shot vig and some antiswing for either
.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:59 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 5734, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Meh. Luca are you fine with S_S.
I think SS is the best bet atm

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:59 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
VOTE: Something_Smart
Hammerrrr

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:00 pm
by Luca Blight
I'm curious how he thinks the game I described above wasn't stacked for Town in comparison to this one, though, especially when he believes the TA to be scum

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:01 pm
by LegoLucy
Metagaming balance is super unfun. Play open setups


Why couldn't you folks make this bombass player list in the open queue

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:04 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 5733, Luca Blight wrote:Well, no role in this setup is as strong as any of {Tracker, N2, N3 Cop, JK}
Disloyal roleblocker is definitely stronger than JK or tracker. Vig is probably stronger than tracker, as well.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:04 pm
by LegoLucy
I am sorry if you are town

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:05 pm
by Something_Smart
I mean, only if you're also town.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:05 pm
by Alisae
is the game over yet?

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:06 pm
by LegoLucy
S_S are you actually misreading me? :(

This is sad

And I don't know how to solve

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:06 pm
by Alisae
I'm going to hell for not listening to the 1 player who wanted to no elim huh

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:07 pm
by Luca Blight
you think novice 1 shot vig is stronger than ungated tracker? lol

The disloyal rb is only useful in the endgame, and if you lim the enabler it's useless (other than being a named townie)

And you're not even factoring in the N2,N3 cop

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:08 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 5744, LegoLucy wrote:S_S are you actually misreading me? :(

This is sad

And I don't know how to solve
I don't understand what's that sad about it, it's not like I'm a god of scumhunting or anything.

And besides if you're town I'm not the one you need to convince.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:09 pm
by LegoLucy
Novice OSV is probably slightly stronger. It's a d3 IC. Trackers clear like 0.8 slots per game.

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:09 pm
by LegoLucy
SS I have emotions ok